Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 January 2011 11:38, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I've updated the details, for version 3751. I wonder if Ben would be so kind as to have a standard tile URL, I haven't dug into the current TMS/WMS code to see if you can supply custom URLs, alternatively using a web server

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread 4x4falcon
On 15/01/11 09:38, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've updated the details, for version 3751. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Andrew Harveyandrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I've put some details on how to add NearMap back in for the latest JOSM versions on the wiki,

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread 4x4falcon
On 15/01/11 10:06, John Smith wrote: On 15 January 2011 12:03, 4x4falconi...@4x4falcon.com wrote: How do you get it to show on the imagery menu list? Add another layer to the list: tms:http://localhost:port/ Or something to that effect, depending where you are pulling the images from.

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 January 2011 12:15, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Already done this using the BTC redirect but was hoping to use the SlippyMap Plugin Custom Tile Source method as the redirect is very slow. Same thing for tiles... Slippy map integrated with WMS, tms = tile map source (I assume)

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread Ben Last
The URL format is pretty much Google-compatible, and there's also the format that was added for Potlatch (with the three ! characters). See http://forum.nearmap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=751p=1262hilit=url+format#p1262 Please note that I'm not making any specific comment whatsoever regarding

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 January 2011 13:29, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: The URL format is pretty much Google-compatible, and there's also the format that was added for Potlatch (with the three ! characters). See http://forum.nearmap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=751p=1262hilit=url+format#p1262 Might

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 January 2011 11:38, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I've updated the details, for version 3751. I wonder if Ben would be so kind as to have a standard tile URL, I haven't dug into the current

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread John Smith
On 15 January 2011 13:57, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: You can use NearMaps current tile API in josm 3751, as I described on the wiki, No redirecting necessary, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#version_3751.2B This is what it should look like,

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:29:01 +0800 Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Also: we're being linked like crazy from several major media sources, so if you can ensure you have a decent-size browser cache and avoid trying to spider down large areas of tiles, that'd be very helpful in reducing the

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread Ben Last
Er... there's lots! Most of the FairFax media sites picked up the Sydney Morning Herald article yesterday, and now that the latest Brisbane CBD and Oxley surveys are up, the Brisbane Courier Mail and Brisbane Times linked directly to us this morning (both seem to be rotating many stories about

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:03:10 +0800 Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Er... there's lots! Most of the FairFax media sites picked up the Sydney Morning Herald article yesterday,

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-12-19 Thread John Smith
On the bright side at least there is now an end point and some kind of finality which many including myself have spent at least the last 6 months asking for, the whole license change over has been one debacle after another and I doubt it could have been intentionally dealt with in a worst manner

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-12-18 Thread John Smith
Does the recent board minutes mean any talks with Nearmap have concluded? https://docs.google.com/View?id=d38xqz5_6fj2bcdcm Because the latest CT draft still seems to include sections that were objected to: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_933xs7nvfb

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-12-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
I've put some details on how to add NearMap back in for the latest JOSM versions on the wiki, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#SlippyMap_Plugin_Custom_Tile_Source ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-12-18 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 09:49 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've put some details on how to add NearMap back in for the latest JOSM versions on the wiki, Why? Did you fail to read the minutes that were posted? Basically OSMF has given itself the ultimate authority to remove all non-compliant data

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-12-18 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
So, whens the aussie fork coming? David world-wide osm-f...@googlegroups.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-12-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:15 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 09:49 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've put some details on how to add NearMap back in for the latest JOSM versions on the wiki, Why?  Did you fail to read the minutes that were posted?  Basically

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-12-18 Thread Sam Vekemans
Yes, hopefully the OSM-Foundation will provide a full planet.osm file. ... However, to be on the safe side (there is no benifit for osm-foundation to help), having a bunch (i'd say at least 10) copies of the latest planet.osm scattered across many websites / offlines and external hard drives

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: But you are right in questioning my above quip because as far as I know (and I don't follow it too closely) Then kindly STFU. Is that unreasonable? Steve ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-29 Thread Mike Dupont
Sorry If I am stupid here, but is it not possible to use CC-BY data for tracing to create new CC-BY-SA data, just not the other way around? According to the compatibility chart, http://learn.creativecommons.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/cclearn-explanations-cc-license-compatability.pdf By can be

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-27 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I find that it scares me that OSM tools are being locked down. One we have flash tools that need a non free runtime, and developers who dont give a damn, then we have this silverlight drama about to unfold.

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-27 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: You can of course fork whatever you like, but allow me to point out that (1) if you are unhappy with the slippy map plugin, why not fork that instead of the whole editor. (2) the slippy map plugin can be configured

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-27 Thread John Smith
On 27 November 2010 19:08, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: You can of course fork whatever you like, but allow me to point out that (1) if you are unhappy with the slippy map plugin, why not fork that

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-27 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Warning, if you use this imagery, you will most likely not be able to agree to the CTs at any time in the future. When OSM changes its license, all your contributions will be have to be removed from the live OSM

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-27 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:59 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean talks with Nearmap has failed to come to an amicable arrangement? From http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-au@openstreetmap.org/msg06524.html Where, Ben Last said: I asked Richard F to remove NearMap

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:57:25 -0500 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:59 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean talks with Nearmap has failed to come to an amicable arrangement? From

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 26 November 2010 08:59, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean talks with Nearmap has failed to come to an amicable arrangement? before:

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread John Smith
On 26 November 2010 20:18, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I can tell, we are still talking with Nearmap to find a compromise acceptable to both party. The last email I exchanged with Ben Last was last night. I don't think we are near a breakdown in communication at

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread Mike Dupont
That is funny, I hope we don't get into a forking of josm as well. OMG. The osm trac is taking forever to load, how lame. Luckily we are using github, which has real performance : https://github.com/openstreetmap/josm-plugins/commit/7402a2349583a250db930b8ac41b5ffa9885acc0#commitcomment-203309

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 26 November 2010 10:24, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 November 2010 20:18, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I can tell, we are still talking with Nearmap to find a compromise acceptable to both party. The last email I exchanged with Ben Last

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 26 November 2010 10:32, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: That is funny, I hope we don't get into a forking of josm as well. OMG. The osm trac is taking forever to load, how lame. Luckily we are using github, which has real performance :

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread Mike Dupont
Great Grant, thanks alot! so john, you gotta talk to big fred : nearmap does not support the planned license change so we'd rather have people using bing Hope I am helping the discussion not harming. peace and love, thanks, mike On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Grant Slater

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread Andrew Harvey
nearmap does not support the planned license change so we'd rather have people using bing --frederik Where is the license information from bing that makes deriving information from their maps compatiable with OSM? Time to fork josm... fjosm! ___

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-26 Thread Mike Dupont
I find that it scares me that OSM tools are being locked down. One we have flash tools that need a non free runtime, and developers who dont give a damn, then we have this silverlight drama about to unfold. The tools should not be dependant on one license or server or one point of view. We need