Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-28 Thread John Smith
2009/9/28 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: I like it. Use the autopilot from here: http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/Main_Page The wired editor also has a site up that sells autopilot kit: http://www.diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/ardupilot-main-page with one of these:

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-27 Thread John Smith
Just found this video, HD camera mounted to a blimp and it gives you some examples of metres per pixel at various heights, up to 318m. It doesn't appear that they are using a fish eye lense, so at a guess you might be able to get a similar scope from 150m as you do from 300m.

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-27 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: Just found this video, HD camera mounted to a blimp and it gives you some examples of metres per pixel at various heights, up to 318m. It doesn't appear that they are using a fish eye lense, so at a guess you might be able to get a similar scope

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-27 Thread John Smith
A cheaper option than blimps brought up on the talk list was covered in a BBC doco: http://www.cropcam.com Only US$7000 Based on some of their 400ft sample imagery: http://www.cropcam.com/images/samples/electrical-tower-nest.jpg and some quick back of the napkin type math it looks like you

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 terryc ter...@woa.com.au: John Smith wrote: This gives us some basic specs to figure out what we'd need either to build or buy one, combined with a HD camera and low enough to the ground we wouldn't need to worry about clouds etc. For comparison, you really should compare

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread terryc
John Smith wrote: Sydney is 1788 sq km according to wikipedia at $12/sq km comes out at Can you explain the $12/sqkms. (That 1788 sqkms sounds awfully small to me, but anyway) about $21,000 which is only a small area of NSW let alone Australia. Also something just occurred to me, the

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 terryc ter...@woa.com.au: John Smith wrote: Sydney is 1788 sq km according to wikipedia at $12/sq km comes out at Can you explain the $12/sqkms. Sat imagery with a non-profit discount is about US$12/sq km (That 1788 sqkms sounds awfully small to me, but anyway) I looked again

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 Babstar debian-l...@blueturtles.com: One thing to consider is that the photography won't actually need to cover the *entire* state.  Given the way most rural towns work, it would just need the point-to-point connections to cover the important roads between towns as well as the towns

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread Jim Croft
$150 gives you a feed from space... ;) http://www.universetoday.com/2009/09/21/reaching-near-space-for-less-than-150/ jim On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:17 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/27 terryc ter...@woa.com.au: John Smith wrote: Sydney is 1788 sq km according to

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread Ross Scanlon
From this website: http://www.skyshipsremote.com/airships.htm UK based company says in the UK there is an altitude limitation of 400ft (~130m) for UAV aircraft, not sure if the same is true in Australia though. If it is we can probably still cope with this via fish eye lenses like the

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-26 Thread John Smith
2009/9/27 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: Applicable AU rules: http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD::pc=PC_91039 Same reg as the UK, maximum operating ceiling of 400ft for UAV aircraft. Tethered balloons (and kites) are allowed up to 500ft... Apart from any restricted air

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-22 Thread Liz
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Matt White wrote: So what does the commercial imagery cost? I don't even know who supplies itor what the licensing is like In my mailbox today www.aerialimpressions.com.au We are conducting aerial photography in your area over the next 4 weeks Save $200 Now $119 Receive

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-22 Thread Liz
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Liz wrote: In my mailbox today www.aerialimpressions.com.au We are conducting aerial photography in your area over the next 4 weeks Save $200 Now $119 Receive 10 proofs of your home or property for just $119 (incl GST) http://aerialimpressions.com.au/gallery/twnTN010.jpg

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-22 Thread Liz
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Liz wrote: http://aerialimpressions.com.au/gallery/twnTN010.jpg looks quite usable for our purposes sorry, if you get to that image from the website, with the same name you get a reasonable size file not a thumbnail ___

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-22 Thread Matt White
Liz wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Liz wrote: In my mailbox today www.aerialimpressions.com.au We are conducting aerial photography in your area over the next 4 weeks Save $200 Now $119 Receive 10 proofs of your home or property for just $119 (incl GST)

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-22 Thread John Smith
2009/9/22 Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Liz wrote: http://aerialimpressions.com.au/gallery/twnTN010.jpg looks quite usable for our purposes sorry, if you get to that image from the website, with the same name you get a reasonable size file not a thumbnail

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-22 Thread John Smith
2009/9/22 Liz ed...@billiau.net: and here is the commercial cost New Aerial Survey System  We now have a new mapping system allowing us to shoot full surveys of any area. Pricing for this service starts at $50 per Sq Km ( 20 Sq Km Min.) Tad more expensive that sat imagery, wonder what they

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-19 Thread Matt White
Liz wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, Matt wrote and John Smith copied: Either way, the big issue in Australia is trying to get people invloved in the regional areas, as it's just not feasible for us city folk to leg it 400km on the weekend to map a town. 400km - do you think that's

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-18 Thread John Smith
I received a reply about the cost to rent a plane, about 230GBP for one hour and the airport was close to the place they were photographying and it was mostly a PR stunt. Due to the sideways angle they are having difficulty rectifying images and that side of things is being worked on however

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-18 Thread Matt White
John Smith wrote: I received a reply about the cost to rent a plane, about 230GBP for one hour and the airport was close to the place they were photographying and it was mostly a PR stunt. Due to the sideways angle they are having difficulty rectifying images and that side of things is being

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-14 Thread Matt White
John Smith wrote: 2009/9/14 b.schulz...@scu.edu.au: I'm happy to download a few gig of that imagery and post out DVDs to people. at 250m/pixel it's not worth bothering with. So what does the commercial imagery cost? I don't even know who supplies itor what the licensing is

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-14 Thread John Smith
2009/9/14 Matt White mattwh...@iinet.com.au: So what does the commercial imagery cost? I don't even know who supplies itor what the licensing is like Well having grown up in rural areas there is always people going round offering to take photos of farms, then of course you have major

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-13 Thread Graeme Wilson
was referring to earlier, operating around 137 MHz, but the images are modulated onto an audio carrier, so in reality, it is very optimistic to expect to get much detail from them. To be continued... Graeme Wilson VK1RE Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:29:54 +1000 Subject: Re: [talk-au] Our own

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-13 Thread John Smith
2009/9/13 Graeme Wilson wandere...@live.com.au: It says that the Landsat images are taken from 440 miles up, which is a lot more that I had thought. I presumed they were from about 160 miles or so. Weather doesn't need the same accuracy, plus they would orbit slower. Having fresh data is

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-13 Thread Liz
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Graeme Wilson wrote: First bit of snooping shows that Landsat imagery is now freely available at http://landsat.usgs.gov/ That's a bleeding shame that the full archive has been available since last October, and we are still using stuff at least 8 years old for our area

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-13 Thread Graeme Wilson
better than that. To be continued... Graeme Wilson VK1RE From: ed...@billiau.net To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:58:57 +1000 Subject: Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery? On Sun, 13 Sep 2009, Graeme Wilson wrote: First bit of snooping shows that Landsat

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-13 Thread b . schulz . 10
I'm happy to download a few gig of that imagery and post out DVDs to people. What site has it? - Original Message - From: Graeme Wilson wandere...@live.com.au Date: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:38 am Subject: Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery? To: ed...@billiau.net, talk-au OSM

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-13 Thread John Smith
2009/9/14 b.schulz...@scu.edu.au: There's always this idea too: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/09/13/1712216/Students-Take-Pictures-From-Space-On-150-Budget?art_pos=7 A balloon based imagery project would be seriously cool. It would certainly be useful for getting imagery of small

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-13 Thread John Smith
2009/9/14 b.schulz...@scu.edu.au: I'm happy to download a few gig of that imagery and post out DVDs to people. at 250m/pixel it's not worth bothering with. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Our own satellite imagery?

2009-09-12 Thread John Smith
2009/9/12 Graeme Wilson wandere...@live.com.au: Anyone interrested? I'm interested but I don't know how much help I could be or the legality of doing something like this. You would generally need several passes or more just to account for clouds obscuring the ground, before you even get to