Hi Lester,
All of the resources you linked, you can improve!
* https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm
*
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Beginners%27_guideaction=edit
*
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Editing_Standards_and_Conventionsaction=edit
You should fix these
It seems like the only thing you're contributing is negativity.
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
On 25/08/15 16:29, Tom MacWright wrote:
All of the resources you linked, you can improve!
* https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm
*
https
On the topic of whether we can or should notify everyone who may
potentially be affected by this change so their opinions can be registered,
you may enjoy this read:
http://www.ftrain.com/wwic.html
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
On 20.08.2015 10:09,
I see that the problem in iD is really easy to solve (much easier than in
Potlach).
Please never say this. Estimating that someone else's task, in their domain
of experience, is simple, is almost always incorrect, and usually
overstepping. This painting looks pretty easy to paint: can you finish
An onboarding guide which explains relations to the extent that a mapper
could confidently edit them would be quite a bit more than that.
Welcome to OpenStreetMap! This is a visual editor which lets you define
things that you see in the world and their spatial component, specifically
in a map
Please consult all of my previous responses to the previous threads on this
identical topic for the responses I would write to the inevitable responses
to this thread.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Michał Brzozowski www.ha...@gmail.com
wrote:
I was imagining a new OSM editing program and
Hi Mike,
Please propose an alternative.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Jun 3, 2015 8:06 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote:
OSM's k=v design is completely a serious and unnecessary flaw. [...] OSM
is 90% argument, 5% dead-end
Perhaps TeleNav or Bing's lawyers are brave enough to say ODbL is not a
problem, or they guess that those entities could absorb the lawsuit. They
are the only lawyers who take this stance, and they haven't tested it -
neither company provides permanent OSM-derived geocoding.
Everywhere else,
Please link to the ticket: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2588
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:39 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Hi All,
I've been using iD for a bit now to make map edits. I've been reporting
back issues with iD to Bryan including a recent discovery
It's fun to be flippant amongst ourselves, where our sense of sarcasm is
precisely tuned.
But this screed isn't the message we should send to the outside world, to a
person wondering what's up with the OpenStreetMap community.
Surveys can be annoying. Maybe we want to have a protocol for them,
Since two years ago, iD has an range of validations it runs on every
potential changeset, as well as an interface to review correct potential
errors before saving them.
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/js/id/validate.js#L1
We welcome contributions to expand these, and have a few
to interact with your users? No need for
external contributions to accomplish that, all that's needed is the
willingness to stop annoying the rest of the community.
2015-02-12 0:40 GMT+01:00 Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org:
We also aimed to have no bugs and like every software project before
...@obviously.com
wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote:
Unfortunately, experience suggests that there's relatively little that a
discussion on on the talk mailing list is going to be able to do here.
Help
with development or give productive feedback
Unfortunately, experience suggests that there's relatively little that a
discussion on on the talk mailing list is going to be able to do here.
This. Help with development or give productive feedback on the issue
tracker. FUD around editors has been discussed to death and it's clear that
.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
Am 2015-02-11 um 17:25 schrieb Tom MacWright:
Unfortunately, experience suggests that there's relatively little that a
discussion on on the talk mailing list is going to be able to do here.
This. Help
at 9:59 AM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote:
That ticket doesn't have a difference of opinion: it has a core developer
of iD offering to buy a cake for whoever contributes a fix. Nobody has
contributed a fix: one would be accepted if it was contributed. Plus, we'd
give that person a cake
Ever since 2012, in the second commit ever, Not breaking other people's
data has been one of the three clearly stated public design goals of iD.
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/commit/22fab3eb1d259fe73d3e1498df1ca0e07c613f87
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:
We
everything else about OpenStreetMap.
It's not anti-iD bias, of course. It's anti-everything bias.
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote:
Ever since 2012, in the second commit ever
I'm an OSMF member, and I'm in favor of a reboot that would establish a
completely new board. I think that the existing board is individually
capable but as a group will never get along.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote:
Particularly because the far more
Panoramio didn't state any open license for uploaded content, so it was
easy for them to go closed with Google. Mapillary does, so it should be as
safe as contributing data to OSM, in terms of what happens if it all goes
away or becomes evil.
I'm sure that everyone would be very supportive of a
I wrote an article somewhat in the same vein:
http://macwright.org/2013/10/15/point-and-shoot.html
Perhaps something to note is that, beyond technical and policy issues, one
of the more common complaints about Wikipedia is that there's an
unfriendly, elitist attitude amongst the established
The fact that the default has now changed has not been publicly announced
yet!
No.
http://blog.openstreetmap.org/2013/08/23/id-in-browser-editor-now-default-on-openstreetmap/
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Tom Hughes wrote:
On 23/08/13 20:57, Lester
iD has a wonderful 'tutorial mode', as well as documentation that explains,
in detail, how to add POIs and do other actions. Given that iD is not
Potlatch, the ways you do these things is not the same as Potlatch, but new
users will not have used Potlatch and will use the tutorial to learn the
In this case and others, we should keep in mind whether P2 or JOSM have
safer or smarter behavior. Would they 'notice' that this new road segment
has meaning? Put another way: iD will never prevent all mistakes, but does
it prevent less than P2 and co? (in this case, I think the answer is no)
On
:
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote:
In this case and others, we should keep in mind whether P2 or JOSM have
safer or smarter behavior. Would they 'notice' that this new road segment
has meaning? Put another way: iD will never prevent all mistakes, but does
search and use the issue tracker for
bugs, as you would do with any other open source project.
Tom
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 9:07 AM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote:
On 16.08.2013 15:39, Tom MacWright wrote:
Hi all,
Now as ever is a good time to post bug reports and suggestions
Hi,
Why do we set a default editor right from the beginning and do not let the
user decide ?
That's a question for another thread, but the answer is likely to be
'reasonable defaults'.
Tom
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:34 AM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote:
Hey,
Why do we set a default
iD has always had a clear message to this direction every time any user
saves:
The changes you upload as tmcw http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tmcw will
be visible on all maps that use OpenStreetMap data.
https://cloudup.com/ckQTglHaKYJ
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Pieren
:
Maybe a short summary like: you have added xxx objects, modified yyy
object and deleted zzz objects would help in this dialog ?
2013/8/17 Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org
iD has always had a clear message to this direction every time any user
saves:
The changes you upload as tmcwhttp
/1452
* https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1571
* https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1038
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote:
And see for yourself.
Ok. No special warning if you
Hi all,
Now as ever is a good time to post bug reports and suggestions to the issue
tracker, where developers can see, act, and respond to them:
https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues
If you have any question as far as 'what is in the latest version of iD' or
'is X fixed or not', you can as
Hi Lester,
As before, please refrain from using all caps and editorializing. You can
simply write
As long as there is also a clear set of notes explaining how to retain
P2, that sounds great!
And we'll get the message just as well.
Thanks,
Tom
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:46 AM,
Since we perform no systematic user testing in advance of these changes (
http://teczno.com/s/92x), we're not really sure what a pro user is.
Given that this is a continual point for years, I would implore someone who
has the resources to just do it, so we can stop using it as an immovable
point
Hey all,
John Firebaugh just wrote up a post that's useful in light of the
conversations we've been having about changes to OSM and how they're
organized:
http://www.mapbox.com/osmdev/2013/07/19/implementing-osm-vision/
Hopefully this story from the video to wireframes, to thought, and finally
If anyone wants to do the work, head over to the Leaflet GitHub
https://github.com/leaflet/leaflet and go for it. I'm imagining it'll be a
hard sell to the maintainers, because it would make Leaflet's behavior
different than the vast majority of maps on the internet, not to mention
all other open
I don't have to live with someone else's preferences.
On the internet, you have been. For years now, every single day.
Everybody is off making a better 'widget' for their pet project and
nobody is looking at the problem as a whole?
You mean in OSM? Look at how much push-back we get on
of this one, 39 comments on the pull request. Around 116
messages in total, though that's only the English count and I'm sure that
there's something on talk-de.
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Tom MacWright wrote:
I don't have to live with someone else's
Hey Lester,
I agree entirely - thus far we aren't focusing on the mobile version of the
site. It's never been very polished, and recent changes aren't focused on
improving it significantly.
As far as why, it's pretty simple - changes to the site are extremely
time-intensive because of its myriad
is here:
https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project-OSRM/issues and you can click
'Generate Link' on the testing instance: http://map.project-osrm.org/ in
order to send a specific route around.
Tom
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Tom MacWright wrote:
Hey
Hey,
Let's also not lose the fact that this thread started with 'Should we
remove the +/- buttons' and has visited about 10 topics in 37 emails since
then. Maybe it's time to start fresh with a focused thread.
Tom
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote:
On Jul
For what it's worth, for those who want to use the Notes facility of OSM
remotely, I've worked on a predictably open source
https://github.com/osmlab/osm-note boringly named project called OSM Note,
that you can open on your phone like so
http://osmlab.github.io/osm-note/and place notes, log in,
The relevant change in Leaflet:
https://github.com/Leaflet/Leaflet/pull/1582?source=cc - the new behavior
matches all other map sites and frameworks I can think of, with the
exception of Bing. You can replicate the old behavior by clicking the map
and dragging it to change the center.
There's no
Hi there,
I am with OSM for 5 years and I do not fully know who is responsible
for things, who has the final words on other things. I often see names
reappear here and there, and over time I got some ideas but it would be
really nice to just have an overview of the actual executive teams of
Hi James,
That issue has been reported and is being worked on:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/356
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
On 20/07/2013 12:57, Paul Norman wrote:
Whoops - resending to the right talk@ list
Which
Hi Dave,
Please be civil, we're all trying our best to be nice and make progress
here. It's inappropriate to start ad-hominem attacking developers,
especially in the case of Saman - who is in fact a designer, not to mention
a real person, in the real world, with actual emotions.
Thanks,
Tom
Hi Steve,
TileMill is not designed for that kind of application (running as a live
server with no cache), though it will work 'a bit'.
So: it doesn't do caching - you'll want a cache. Look at CloudFront,
nginx's cache, varnish, squid, and so on.
Tuning the database: check that you have all
Hey,
There are quite a few examples of users coming from one of these big pushes
and then just doing it - for instance, we were working on Campo Grande,
because a foursquare user, muzito, complained that most of the city was
missing. The editing quickly became all conflicted because another user
Making 60 changesets, spending a lot of time editing OpenStreetMap, and
going from being a public critic of the maps (versus Google Maps, of
course) to a public advocate is a big deal, even if it's just one person.
A 52% active user percentage isn't terribly low: it's similar to services
like
The OSM API(s) are certainly useful for integration, but a different kind -
if they were pulling small chunks of data, etc., then they'd be using an
API, but at this point they're mainly using tiles. More to come, but at
this point the process looks like OSM Planet + update chunks - TileMill
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