Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-02 Thread Marc Gemis
The road properties are mapped on the road. The relation (also for motorways) should not impose this. The E34-relation contains segments with traffic signals, so it's not all freeway/motorway. We should differentiate between fiets-o-strade-the-cycleway and fiets-o-strade-the-route. The latter can

Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-02 Thread joost schouppe
@Ben: I was also thinking about proposed, but I don't like how this is not in the main tag. Instead of route=bicycle + state=proposed, I would prefer something like route:proposed=bicycle. Then you automatically break data-use that hasn't heared about these 2000 objects worldwide that have a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-02 Thread Jo
Around Leuven there are a few that are (partially) signposted. But if you want to take them to get all the way to Brussels for example, you'd either need a helicopter to get across R0 or make a serious detour. I mapped some, including the detours. I tried mapping the one that goes to Tienen, but

Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-01 Thread Marc Gemis
I would only map them if they are signposted. So if there are signs indicating how you get from one dedicated fiets-o-strade section to another via "regular" roads, no problem. If there are no signs, let the router decide the route based on other tags. As for the concrete that has to be placed on

Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-01 Thread OSMDoudou
, February 1, 2018 18:17 To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes I'll go with a 'no' here. Let me explain why: Both the main routes (fietsostrade, fietssnelweg, whatever you wish to call it) and the 'BFF' ('Bovenlokaal funct

Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-01 Thread Tim Couwelier
I'll go with a 'no' here. Let me explain why: Both the main routes (fietsostrade, fietssnelweg, whatever you wish to call it) and the 'BFF' ('Bovenlokaal functioneel fietstroutenet) are by no means an indication of actual infrastructure being present, nor is it a measure of quality for the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-01 Thread Ben Abelshausen
In London some of the routes are mapped as proposed, it's a bit annoying if you don't know that they are just proposed and not actually there: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6691788 Rendering is a dotted version of the normal line on the cycle layer:

[OSM-talk-be] temporary cycle routes

2018-02-01 Thread joost schouppe
Hi, I got an interesting question today. As the Flemish "fietsostrades" (fietssnelwegen, or cycle highways) are taking shape, so they are being mapped in OSM. People are already using the data, even though in reality, this is till very much a project. In more and more places, parts are