Re: [Talk-ca] NRCan lakes

2020-07-07 Thread Adam Martin
As mentioned by Daniel, this is due to the nature of the CANVEC data import. CANVEC shapefile data is based on tiles and these will chop practically anything into pieces - lakes are just ones of the more noticeable. I have corrected some of these myself as I've come across them. Just be careful

[Talk-ca] Coastline Question

2020-03-25 Thread Adam Martin
Hello all, I have been moving about the Island of Newfoundland addressing Keep Right! issues and adding missing features. While doing so, I encountered an area of coastline along the Burin Peninsula that appears odd to me. Specifically, the Garnish River here:

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2019-12-24 Thread Adam Martin
Hi all, Looking at the wiki page, a large volume of the buildings are of low quality requiring processing. The trade off here is between not having buildings and having buildings that are out of place and of poor quality. I can see people being reluctant to have it imported in an area,

Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

2018-01-29 Thread Adam Martin
Can't speak for the rest of the country as such, but I do know that the imagery quality in Newfoundland is rather poor. Recognizing building shapes would technically work, but the result would be poorly aligned boxes, not accurate house shapes. We also do not have a local working group as far as I

Re: [Talk-ca] Forests/Land Use, was: Canvec reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Adam Martin
That is the key here. Deleting information without replacing it with something more accurate is inherently destructive. There must be some thought as to what will be put back or one is essentially ripping the map up simply because you don't like how something looks or how it closely it follows a

Re: [Talk-ca] Qualiuty of OSM data

2016-08-31 Thread Adam Martin
I would also like to take a read through that document. Sounds interesting. CANVEC has been good for the Canadian mapping efforts, but it is stale data and not highly accurate. Yet it provides us a base to work from and has the benefit of filling the map with ... something. A giant blank gap for

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Adam Martin
greement with >>> Daniel message. :) >>> >>> >>> Pierre >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *De :* Begin Daniel <jfd...@hotmail.com> >>> *À :* James <james2...@gmail.com>; Adam Martin <s.adam.mar...@g

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-30 Thread Adam Martin
That's a pretty harsh thing to deal with. Imports are difficult and the time needed to get them right is not a small investment. To have someone review this work is a valuable service, but I don't think just blanket reverting due to the violation of one rule is the solution, especially in context

Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

2016-08-25 Thread Adam Martin
Both of your instincts on the matter are correct - these polygons are the result of CANVEC data imports and has to do with how that data is packaged for distribution by Natural Resources. If you go to the CANVEC site, click on the map, and zoom to an address, you eventually get to the level where

Re: [Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap at the Crossroads – The Map Room

2016-08-19 Thread Adam Martin
Wait! You mean a robot ... Made a mistake!!?? Say it ain't so! Sarcasm aside, it's not surprising. The article speaks so highly of the robots and the crisis peeps over the crafters and the arm chair people. But it has been my experience that unless the importer is skilled and regularly consults

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread Adam Martin
d name, just not the >> postal code from an official source. >> >> On Aug 10, 2016 11:00 AM, "Adam Martin" <s.adam.mar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Bjenk, >>> >>> On the Address data, the Talk-CA group has had several discuss

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread Adam Martin
Hey Bjenk, On the Address data, the Talk-CA group has had several discussions about it. The problem boils down to Canada Post, which treats the information as proprietary - they provide any individual going to their site the right to lookup an address in order to utilize their service to mail

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-21 Thread Adam Martin
Hi Bjenk, I think what Paul meant was more along the lines of what specifically you wanted to do. You state that you want to define a project, but other than stating that you want to collect certain information about non-residential buildings, we have little else to go on. >From the sound of it,

Re: [Talk-ca] New Project

2016-04-20 Thread Adam Martin
OSM is community driven so you've basically come to the right place to propose projects for Canada. If the project proposes some sort of change to the structure of OSM itself, it would need to be brought before the Board of the Foundation (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation for more

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-29 Thread Adam Martin
That is a significant issue. If the original user *brousseaumat* was the one that made the import and he / she has ... only 8 edits to their name, all within Ontario, then reversing his work may be enough. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 2:32 PM, James wrote: > There's also the

Re: [Talk-ca] Bus stops in Ottawa

2016-02-28 Thread Adam Martin
This is often the trouble that long-term mappers might have with hit-and-run mappers, especially with regards to "living" information that is added to the map. Static information, like large buildings in a mature location or major thoroughfares, can be added by these quick mappers and remain

Re: [Talk-ca] Islands with coastlines not showing up in OSM

2016-02-24 Thread Adam Martin
Hey Denis, Changes to the coastline takes time to pass through the tile rendering. If I recall correctly, the coastal tiles may take several weeks to update and require manual intervention. Looking at the Wiki, I see this ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Coastline): "*Coastline rendering in

Re: [Talk-ca] Grand Lacs / Great Lakes

2016-01-24 Thread Adam Martin
Hello Sebastien, I remember seeing a discussion of this issue - not on the talk.ca mailing list, but on the subreddit for Openstreetmap ( https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/3z7w9d/where_are_the_great_lakes/). In it, the OP notes that the Great Lakes have disappeared off the map at

Re: [Talk-ca] Metrolinx: OSM Golden Horseshoe Address Data

2016-01-12 Thread Adam Martin
Taking a look around the data in OSM for Toronto, it would appear that the address interpolations have been added via import from CanVec already, Pierre. Which prompts the question as to what, exactly, did the people from Metrolinx mean when they expressed concern about "getting better address

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec+

2015-10-07 Thread Adam Martin
Hi all! Thanks for the heads up, James. I was not personally aware of this change until now. Reading the news release for the CanVec+ from the Geogratis site (http://geogratis.gc.ca/site/eng/whats-new/intro-canvec). I think one of the key statements on the website is that the Department of

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: Ottawa, Canada import

2015-08-20 Thread Adam Martin
I would think it's the parts that give them the power to revoke the license to use the data at any time. For it to be used in OSM, it has to be essentially surrendered to the map. When I joined two years ago, one of the stipulations was to specifically accept the licensing agreement of OSM which

Re: [Talk-ca] Highway recoding

2015-07-24 Thread Adam Martin
Reviewing the types that you suggest here, the result seems reasonable. Major Canadian Highways are generally a blend of the two, I find. Type 1 trunks rely on restricted access and the main highways in cities are generally limited in this manner. Likewise, these restrictions lift, in a sense,

Re: [Talk-ca] Data import

2015-06-23 Thread Adam Martin
Good point - there is lots of good, free data being compiled out there that could make excellent additions to the map. But importing is a very complex business - especially in any area where other survey and contributor data already exists. Extreme caution should be taken to ensure that imported

Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season

2014-12-30 Thread Adam Martin
Hey Russell / all, I performed a rudimentary test of an address in the map without a postal code and later used the Nominatim to search for it to see what it produced. The address was 27 Cairo Street in St. John's, NL - I used this because it is an old address of mine and I know the postal code

[Talk-ca] Postal Codes

2014-12-30 Thread Adam Martin
Hey all, I was reading over the previous discussions held here regarding the issue of obtaining postal codes for use with civic addresses in Canada. I understand that, unless specific permission is obtained, there is no way to utilize the information stored in the Canada Post database, even if

[Talk-ca] Road designations

2014-12-11 Thread Adam Martin
I have a question for the group regarding the designation of various roads within city regions. Specifically, with reference to primary, secondary, and tertiary roads. What exactly is the criteria being used to designate a road as one or the other? I know that the wiki provides guidance, but it

Re: [Talk-ca] Discussion: zones boisées

2014-11-21 Thread Adam Martin
Hello Dega / all, With regard to a path that cuts through a forest, the initial thought might be to map the path as dirt or something similar. However, this would not be efficient nor required. A line that denotes a path is, in itself, technically a type of land tag as the any such pathway must

[Talk-ca] Fwd: RIP CanVec

2014-11-17 Thread Adam Martin
Oops, meant to reply to the list, not an individual. :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] RIP CanVec To: Alan Trick alantr...@gmail.com I have had some experience regarding the use

[Talk-ca] Question on CANVEC

2014-07-22 Thread Adam Martin
Hey all, I have a quick question on data that has been imported from CANVEC. I have been doing some work on the North-West side of Thunder Bay in Ontario. Part of that has been attempting to revamp the land use designations there. At the moment, the use has been entered via CANVEC import, but a

Re: [Talk-ca] Question on CANVEC

2014-07-22 Thread Adam Martin
in the first place (no data vs. bad data). Working with gigantic multipolygons is indeed a pain and I don't think there is any value to preserving the import data. Just my two cents, Harald. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Talk-ca] coastline between Montreal and Sorel, Quebec

2014-04-03 Thread Adam Martin
Charles, I took a look at the area that you describe and I see what you mean - the coastline designation disappears around Sorel and reappears just past Montreal. Looking in the area of the gap, the use of Coastline appears to suddenly switch to Water and Riverbank. The source of the information

Re: [Talk-ca] coastline between Montreal and Sorel, Quebec

2014-04-03 Thread Adam Martin
them and find out their reasons. Andrew alester Victoria, BC Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Charles, I took a look at the area that you describe and I see what you mean - the coastline designation disappears around Sorel

Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?

2014-03-28 Thread Adam Martin
with that part myself - always willing to lend a hand. Adam On Mar 27, 2014 11:42 PM, i...@gmx.com wrote: Would it be possible to only import the tundra parts? There are no wood areas. Or just Ellesmere island? There are just lakes and tundra. Ivolino *Von:* Adam Martin

Re: [Talk-ca] Nunavut has a very pour data coverage. Why not Integrate BNDT/CanVec dataset from Department of Natural Resources Canada?

2014-03-27 Thread Adam Martin
I can see the point here - better to have something than nothing. Still, my tendency would be to opt for a mapping project like the ones performed on other areas rather than a mass import. Imported data needs to be treated with kid gloves as it is easy to end up with faulty information. Wood areas

[Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings

2014-03-09 Thread Adam Martin
Hey all, Quick question regarding tagging buildings. I've come across several that are owned and maintained by a local telecom company. These are buildings, usually located in residential areas, look somewhat like houses, but are there to provide switching and distribution of communications

Re: [Talk-ca] GNS tag cleanup

2014-02-14 Thread Adam Martin
Hey all, Figured I look, for the codes mentioned on the GNS site and save others the trouble. ADM 1 Codes First-order administrative division. An administrative area directly subordinate to the pertinent governing authority. CC1 Country code. CA being Canada. DSG Feature designation code.

Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

2014-01-16 Thread Adam Martin
Thanks Harald. Especially for the corrections in Newfoundland - we don't have many of them but they're there. On Jan 16, 2014 7:00 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: I am happy to report that all of Canada should now be free of this issue! I just fixed the last one all the way west in

[Talk-ca] Maritime Boundary

2014-01-12 Thread Adam Martin
Hello! I have a question regarding the maritime boundary of Canada, specifically Newfoundland and Labrador. National maritime boundaries generally use the 12 nautical mile limit, unless otherwise specified. I see the boundary for the province (http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=7/48.283/-53.196)

Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal

2014-01-10 Thread Adam Martin
Bonjour Simon! Forgive my lack of ability in writing french - hopefully it won't make a difference. Took a look at the area that you are referring to. The area that is designated as the park is a Forest while the other overlapping area is designated as Wood. From looking over the maps provided by

Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal

2014-01-10 Thread Adam Martin
. *From:* Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2014 11:19 AM *To:* Simon Mercier *Cc:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Parc Summit Montréal Bonjour Simon! Forgive my lack of ability in writing french - hopefully it won't make a difference

Re: [Talk-ca] Pourquoi les imports doivent être régis

2014-01-07 Thread Adam Martin
Darren, I'd also like to hear what the consensus is on this point. Generally, a GPS trace is optimal, but not always possible. Personally, I find that tracing the satellite imagery tends to provide a good result. I've performed some localized tests to ensure that these traced roads are comparable

Re: [Talk-ca] OSM New-York - Import de contours de batiments et adresses

2014-01-06 Thread Adam Martin
The effort behind OSM in terms of the map is to obtain, enter and maintain accurate and up-to-date data. Any effort to create a community is ours as the Canadian users of the editing tools. As such, the assertion that importing should be discouraged is one for the benefit of the map and not the

[Talk-ca] Floating Island Error

2014-01-06 Thread Adam Martin
Based on an earlier discussion on the OSM Canada board, I've been trying to figure out what is the best way of correcting the floating island error that has been plaguing the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador. Specifically, the error occurs from two directions. The first is localized on the

[Talk-ca] Keep Right Error

2013-11-25 Thread Adam Martin
Hello all, This is my first to this list and I have a question regarding a particular keep right error I keep seeing for the island portion of Newfoundland and Labrador. All roads within the Province are flagged as being Floating Islands, indicating that there is some sort of gap or break in the

Re: [Talk-ca] Keep Right Error

2013-11-25 Thread Adam Martin
-- *De :* Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com *À :* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Lundi 25 novembre 2013 18h48 *Objet :* [Talk-ca] Keep Right Error Hello all, This is my first to this list and I have a question regarding a particular keep right