Re: [Talk-ca] Ontario 040P

2009-06-13 Thread Richard Degelder
Adam Glauser wrote: I've found a way[1], which appears to have come in with this import, but is incorrectly named. I checked out the Geobase website and found their viewing tool[2], but I can't see the names for the NRN ways. How can I check whether this is, in fact, an error in the NRN data? Se

Re: [Talk-ca] Ontario 040P

2009-06-13 Thread Steve Singer
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Adam Glauser wrote: > I've found a way[1], which appears to have come in with this import, > but is incorrectly named. I checked out the Geobase website and found > their viewing tool[2], but I can't see the names for the NRN ways. > How can I check whether this is, in fact,

Re: [Talk-ca] Ontario 040P

2009-06-13 Thread Adam Glauser
I've found a way[1], which appears to have come in with this import, but is incorrectly named. I checked out the Geobase website and found their viewing tool[2], but I can't see the names for the NRN ways. How can I check whether this is, in fact, an error in the NRN data? Secondly, when I fix it

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
> That's a possibility, though RoadMatcher is the tool for exactly this > purpose. For now, after the import, in problematic places I compare > the topologies by opening the resulting .osm file from geobase2osm > script (not the standalone, but the whole thing) as another layer. Then > data can

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 03:13:23PM -0700, Austin Henry (ahenry-...@canoe.staticcling.org) wrote: > - Michael Barabanov arranged a host of electrons thusly: - > > Hmm, did I say "more authoritative"? I thought it was something like > > "more consistent and topologically correct". > > Hmm, musing

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Austin Henry
- Michael Barabanov arranged a host of electrons thusly: - > Hmm, did I say "more authoritative"? I thought it was something like > "more consistent and topologically correct". Hmm, musing on the issue of topology (and assuming I understand what you mean by that term), it should be possible to wr

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
Meanwhile, for the existing process I've added "After the Import" section to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase_NRN_-_OSM_Map_Feature It's also mentioned it in "How can I help". http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GeoBase_Import Michael. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 02:34:29PM -0700, Michael B

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 02:19:08PM -0700, Corey Burger (corey.bur...@gmail.com) wrote: > I snipped out that section becuase it wasn't the first suggestion to > throw out existing data and I wanted to nip that suggestion at the > bud. Nevertheless, we will have to deal with the issues I mentioned.

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Corey Burger
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Michael Barabanov wrote: > Corey, > > In my original message (as opposed to a snippet you quoted), I > suggest that matching geobase UUID is equivalent to throwing out the > data, if not position-wise, then topology-wise.  We can take the easy > way or a hard way, b

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
Hmm, did I say "more authoritative"? I thought it was something like "more consistent and topologically correct". On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:28:56AM -0400, Gerald A (geraldabli...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Corey Burger wrote: > > > > > 1) start fresh (streets/road-wi

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Barabanov
Corey, In my original message (as opposed to a snippet you quoted), I suggest that matching geobase UUID is equivalent to throwing out the data, if not position-wise, then topology-wise. We can take the easy way or a hard way, but end result will be pretty much the same. Avoiding pissing off map

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Corey Burger
Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:08 AM, William Lachance wrote: > On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 10:28 -0400, Gerald A wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Corey Burger >> wrote: >>         >         > 1) start fresh (streets/road-wise), enjoy correct topology >>         and overall >>         > consistenc

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Austin Henry
- William Lachance arranged a host of electrons thusly: - > > Having the uuids around also make it easier to talk about > > differences/errors between OSM and geobase data. Someone can look > > at a road in OSM and easily find the original GeoBase road (using > > your favourite gis tool) and comp

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Steve Singer
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, William Lachance wrote: > All I'm saying is that these tools sometimes depend on certain shared > assumptions on how the data is grouped and tagged, and one of these > conventions is that a way (read: road) with the same properties > shouldn't be split on junctions. But if a

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread William Lachance
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 20:48 -0400, Steve Singer wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, William Lachance wrote: > > > Maybe I'm missing something, but I frankly just don't see the > purpose in > > tagging our data differently from the rest of the world, when we can > > achieve the desired end (comparing OS

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread William Lachance
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 10:28 -0400, Gerald A wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Corey Burger > wrote: > > 1) start fresh (streets/road-wise), enjoy correct topology > and overall > > consistency for the whole Canada from the start, and > correct/add

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread William Lachance
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 17:54 -0600, James Ewen wrote: > > > > At best, the way we're > > doing things will unneccessarily enlarge the OSM layer for Canada by > > putting in redundant road tagging information into the database. At > > worst, you cause problems with third party tools. > Still not s

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-13 Thread Gerald A
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Corey Burger wrote: > > 1) start fresh (streets/road-wise), enjoy correct topology and overall > > consistency for the whole Canada from the start, and correct/add to > out-of-date data from GeoBase. > > > Under no circumstances should we be deleting already coll

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase data updates

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Shand
For those on the list, I'm currently starting to investigate importing the PEI data. Anyone else interested in helping out? Any good pointers on setting everything up? B On 12-Jun-09, at 10:11 PM, Steve Singer wrote: > > > http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/news/index.html > > Might be of int