Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-08-12 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Je suis certainement conscient des différences entre le Québec et la France. Pas comme un Canadien natal, bien sûr. C'est pourquoi j'ai dit "pour choisir l'une des nombreuses villes que j'ai embarquées dans les trains." Je ne suis pas monté à bord du train de banlieue canadien ou VIA (j’ai

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-08-12 Thread James
Résumé très facile: Paris ou la france ≠ Le Québec. Le Québec fait les chose très différente de la France. On Sun., Aug. 12, 2018, 8:36 p.m. OSM Volunteer stevea, < stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: > Ayant embarqué à bord de nombreux trains à Paris (pour choisir l'une des > nombreuses villes

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-08-12 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Ayant embarqué à bord de nombreux trains à Paris (pour choisir l'une des nombreuses villes que j'ai embarquées dans les trains), OSM aux Halles dit "operator=RATP" et "name=RER B". Certains disent que la pure consistance est stupide. Je dis "trouver ce qui fonctionne et rester cohérent".

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-08-12 Thread James
Personellement la STM est connu sous la STM sur toute la "branding" (bus, arrêts, site web(stm.ca), etc) La seule exception est que son nom légale est : Société de Transport de Montréal. Pareil pour la STO à Gatineau(Société de Transport de l'Outaouais) On Sun., Aug. 12, 2018, 7:39 p.m. OSM

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-08-12 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
"Raise matters" isn't something I did, it is something I am doing, as in continuing dialog. Donc, merci pour la suggestion, mes deux années d'écolier français devront suffire. This discussion did start in English. If you think a wiki page with a simple table sketches out "here's how we do

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-08-12 Thread john whelan
If you wish to raise matters about local mapping in Montreal I suggest you use French as it is the language that most Montreal mappers are familiar with. Cheerio John On 12 August 2018 at 17:37, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > John, especially in light that we both volunteer in a wonderful >

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-08-12 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
John, especially in light that we both volunteer in a wonderful organization like OSM, I consider neither of us poor. Truly, I mean that. It wouldn't be "confused" that I might be. It would be much more leaning towards, if not firmly in, the camp of "abbreviating in OSM key:value pairs is

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-08-12 Thread john whelan
Good heavens you mean we should spell out OCtranspo as Ottawa Carleton Transpo in case any American tourists get confused? Unfortunately the locals will probably get confused with this and whilst we should cater to these foreign tourists I think what is on the signs locally will be less confusing

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-08-12 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Dusting off a month-old thread... Damien and Jarek, it seems the examples listed below both fit into a "citizen mappers coalescing on a local/regional way to do things" as well as a "somebody unfamiliar with Canadian transport mapping w.r.t. naming, network and operator tag conventions" (maybe

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-07-16 Thread Damien Riegel
On 12 July 2018 at 17:17, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > On Jul 12, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > Damien's question appears to be about nodes like > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/438843513, which has > > name=Berri-UQAM, operator=Société de transport de Montréal. > >

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-07-12 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
On Jul 12, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > Damien's question appears to be about nodes like > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/438843513, which has > name=Berri-UQAM, operator=Société de transport de Montréal. > short_name=STM seems inappropriate here, we could do >

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-07-12 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
Hi all, Damien's question appears to be about nodes like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/438843513, which has name=Berri-UQAM, operator=Société de transport de Montréal. short_name=STM seems inappropriate here, we could do operator:short_name=STM or something but it seems a bit much. The

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-07-10 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Hello Damien: I'm "meh, OK" with an operator=STM value, but I freely say I haven't checked in completely with whomever you mean by "the minority." (I "haven't heard of" any controversy one way or the other, STM or full-name. But that isn't saying much on my part). I watch what's up with

[Talk-ca] Montréal: Inconsistency in Public Transportation Provider's Name

2018-07-10 Thread Damien Riegel
Hi everyone, I'm new to this list so please forgive me if this topic has already been discussed. In Montréal, the public transportation provider is the "Societé de transport de Montréal", more commonly known as STM. Some (the minority) nodes use the full name, all the others use the acronym. it