Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[James]

If you count a tweet as permission:
https://twitter.com/rps333/status/729983088701267968
On May 10, 2016 2:29 AM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:

> On 5/9/2016 11:17 PM, Heather Leson wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Planet Labs opened up their imagery with an OSM friendly license
>>
>> https://www.planet.com/pulse/fort-mcmurray-wildfire/
>>
>>
> The license on there (CC BY-SA) is not suitable for deriving data for use
> in OSM with - do we have a special permission from them documented
> somewhere? Without it we can't use the imagery.
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

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On 5/9/2016 11:17 PM, Heather Leson wrote:

Hi Folks

Planet Labs opened up their imagery with an OSM friendly license

https://www.planet.com/pulse/fort-mcmurray-wildfire/



The license on there (CC BY-SA) is not suitable for deriving data for 
use in OSM with - do we have a special permission from them documented 
somewhere? Without it we can't use the imagery.


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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Heather Leson]

Hi Folks

Planet Labs opened up their imagery with an OSM friendly license

https://www.planet.com/pulse/fort-mcmurray-wildfire/

Heather

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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Heather Leson 
wrote:

> Morning from Doha.
>
> As mentioned previously there are emergency managers trying to get
> imagery. This is their first time considering digital volunteers. If I can
> have one Canadian volunteer as a point of contact I can hand off the
> discussion.
>
> Note: they would really love it if it was someone from alberta. However, i
> think someone who can work on what is needed is also great.
>
> Heather
> On 10 May 2016 03:31, "James"  wrote:
>
>> I doubt we could use this for validating as its creating a derived work
>> and unless we have permission
>> On May 9, 2016 8:20 PM, "Pierre Béland"  wrote:
>>
>>> Couche Immeubles, cité de Wood Buffalo
>>> josm tms[19]:
>>> http://gis-portal-api.elasticbeanstalk.com/arcgis/rest/services/basemaps/vectorBasemap/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
>>>
>>> On ne peut tracer à partir de cette couche à moins d'obtenir
>>> l'autorisation de la municipalité. Mais cela permet de comparer immeubles
>>> avec carte OSM et imagerie Bing. On peut aussi valider les noms de rue dans
>>> OSM.
>>>
>>> Pierre
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Heather Leson]

Morning from Doha.

As mentioned previously there are emergency managers trying to get imagery.
This is their first time considering digital volunteers. If I can have one
Canadian volunteer as a point of contact I can hand off the discussion.

Note: they would really love it if it was someone from alberta. However, i
think someone who can work on what is needed is also great.

Heather
On 10 May 2016 03:31, "James"  wrote:

> I doubt we could use this for validating as its creating a derived work
> and unless we have permission
> On May 9, 2016 8:20 PM, "Pierre Béland"  wrote:
>
>> Couche Immeubles, cité de Wood Buffalo
>> josm tms[19]:
>> http://gis-portal-api.elasticbeanstalk.com/arcgis/rest/services/basemaps/vectorBasemap/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
>>
>> On ne peut tracer à partir de cette couche à moins d'obtenir
>> l'autorisation de la municipalité. Mais cela permet de comparer immeubles
>> avec carte OSM et imagerie Bing. On peut aussi valider les noms de rue dans
>> OSM.
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[James]

I doubt we could use this for validating as its creating a derived work and
unless we have permission
On May 9, 2016 8:20 PM, "Pierre Béland"  wrote:

> Couche Immeubles, cité de Wood Buffalo
> josm tms[19]:
> http://gis-portal-api.elasticbeanstalk.com/arcgis/rest/services/basemaps/vectorBasemap/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
>
> On ne peut tracer à partir de cette couche à moins d'obtenir
> l'autorisation de la municipalité. Mais cela permet de comparer immeubles
> avec carte OSM et imagerie Bing. On peut aussi valider les noms de rue dans
> OSM.
>
> Pierre
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Pierre Béland]

Couche Immeubles, cité de Wood Buffalojosm 
tms[19]:http://gis-portal-api.elasticbeanstalk.com/arcgis/rest/services/basemaps/vectorBasemap/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x}
On ne peut tracer à partir de cette couche à moins d'obtenir l'autorisation de 
la municipalité. Mais cela permet de comparer immeubles avec carte OSM et 
imagerie Bing. On peut aussi valider les noms de rue dans OSM. 
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Pierre Béland]

Je crois aussi qu'il serait mieux d'avoir divers projets. Cependant, il faut 
planifier avant d'ajouter de nouveaux projet et de demander aux bénévoles, de 
passer des heures à contribuer à de tels projets. 

Pour motiver les contributeurs OSM à participer et maintenir la participation, 
Il est important de justifier la démarche, de déterminer ce qui sera vraiment 
utile en terme opérationnel pour supporter les équipes sur le terrain. Et de 
là, nous devons prioriser nos actions. 

En quoi sera utile ce travail, comment aidera-t-il au niveau opérationnel? 
immeubles ? adresses? etc

La carte interactive de la ville de Wood Buffalo contient les données 
cadastrales, incluant les immeubles et les limites de chaque terrain cela pour 
Fort McMurray, Anzac, Gregoire Lake, etc.  
http://view.rmwb.ca/#!/

Espérons que système de backup est assuré pour toutes la base de données et le 
serveur de la municipalité!

Infomatinos beaucoup plus précises et à date que ce que nous pouvons réaliser à 
partir d'imagerie Bing. Et des équipes spécialisées, incluant les compagnies 
d'assurance et les municipalités vont faire des évaluations au cours de 
prochaines semaines.  

La Croix-Rouge canadienne ne pourrait-elle pas simplement obtenir des infos 
directement des municipalités et de la Sécurité civile d'Alberta puisque 
celles-ci auront à coordonner ces évaluations? 
 Les adresses sont sûrement des infos utiles pour les équipes qui se déplacent 
sur le terrain. Elles ne sont pas affichée sur la carte de Wood Buffulo. Pour 
ajouter les adresses, nous pourrions utiliser les données d'interpolation de 
Geobase. Plus simple et rapide. Mais encore là, y a-t-il des sources 
disponibles déja, et peut-être pour chaque immeuble? C'est sans doute ce que 
les équipes veulent avoir pour mieux se repérer. Les municipalités ont sans 
doute une base de donnée adresse géolocalisée et très précise.
 
Pierre 

  
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I've created two other projects as per your suggestion as blocking tiles for 
something that is so small in terms of the whole picture doesn't make sense.

For building outlines:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

For addresses and residential polygons:
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/23

For validation(QA):
http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/24  

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:45 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

I mean how do we decide a tile is mapped?  Normally in HOT its when the list of 
things in the instructions are completed.

"
Also trace - Routes in the region   
   - Polygons around the residential areas in areas around Fort McMurray
   - Isolated buildings outside urban places
   - Names of missing roads
   - Addresses (via geobase)
Check Addresses are valid with GeoFabrik inspector tool"That's quite a lot for 
a tile, mapping buildings is one process, adding addresses is another, checking 
the addresses is yet another.Based on HOT experience its best to keep it fairly 
simple.  So I suggest:First project tile and map buildings.  This is a fairly 
simple task that a beginner with the JOSM building tool can do fairly well.
Second project tile and add addresses. This is more complex.
Third project tile GeoFabrick inspector tool.  This is even more complex.
You can have more than one set of tiles gridding the area.
Cheerio John

On 9 May 2016 at 17:36, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bing imagery is better than mapbox in that region. For addressing do you mean 
building by building or CanVec interpolation?On May 9, 2016 5:11 PM, "john 
whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add 
addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its difficult to 
say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't been added and 
that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times.
Are we using Mapbox imagery or Bing for this one by the way?

Thanks John

On 9 May 2016 at 16:11, Kunce, Dale <dale.ku...@redcross.org> wrote:

If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building assessment 
I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on the lookout for 
it.

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On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman" <penor...@mac.com> wrote:

>On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
>> Bernie,
>> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap
>> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap da

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[john whelan]

I mean how do we decide a tile is mapped?  Normally in HOT its when the
list of things in the instructions are completed.

"

Also trace - Routes in the region

   -

   Polygons around the residential areas in areas around Fort McMurray
   -

   Isolated buildings outside urban places
   -

   Names of missing roads
   -

   Addresses (via geobase)

Check Addresses are valid with GeoFabrik inspector tool"


That's quite a lot for a tile, mapping buildings is one process, adding
addresses is another, checking the addresses is yet another.

Based on HOT experience its best to keep it fairly simple.  So I suggest:

First project tile and map buildings.  This is a fairly simple task that a
beginner with the JOSM building tool can do fairly well.

Second project tile and add addresses. This is more complex.

Third project tile GeoFabrick inspector tool.  This is even more complex.

You can have more than one set of tiles gridding the area.

Cheerio John

On 9 May 2016 at 17:36, James  wrote:

> Bing imagery is better than mapbox in that region. For addressing do you
> mean building by building or CanVec interpolation?
> On May 9, 2016 5:11 PM, "john whelan"  wrote:
>
>> Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add
>> addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its
>> difficult to say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't
>> been added and that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times.
>> Are we using Mapbox imagery or Bing for this one by the way?
>>
>> Thanks John
>>
>> On 9 May 2016 at 16:11, Kunce, Dale  wrote:
>>
>>> If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building
>>> assessment I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on
>>> the lookout for it.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>> —
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>>> International Services |  American Red Cross
>>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>>>
>>> Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
>>> >> Bernie,
>>> >> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap
>>> >> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is
>>> >> just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that
>>> >> we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and
>>> >> coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for
>>> >> our needs for tracing.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid
>>> >mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

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Bing imagery is better than mapbox in that region. For addressing do you
mean building by building or CanVec interpolation?
On May 9, 2016 5:11 PM, "john whelan"  wrote:

> Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add
> addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its
> difficult to say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't
> been added and that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times.
> Are we using Mapbox imagery or Bing for this one by the way?
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 9 May 2016 at 16:11, Kunce, Dale  wrote:
>
>> If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building
>> assessment I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on
>> the lookout for it.
>>
>> Dale
>> —
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>> International Services |  American Red Cross
>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>>
>> Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:
>>
>> >On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
>> >> Bernie,
>> >> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap
>> >> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is
>> >> just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that
>> >> we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and
>> >> coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for
>> >> our needs for tracing.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid
>> >mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[john whelan]

Should we layer this ie one project to map the buildings, another to add
addresses, the processes are quite different and at the moment its
difficult to say a tile is done for buildings when the address info hasn't
been added and that means mappers going over the same tiles multiple times.
Are we using Mapbox imagery or Bing for this one by the way?

Thanks John

On 9 May 2016 at 16:11, Kunce, Dale  wrote:

> If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building
> assessment I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on
> the lookout for it.
>
> Dale
> —
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> Services |  American Red Cross
> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>
> Tel 202.303.4095 | Cell 510.842.7523 | Skype dkunce​
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:
>
> >On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
> >> Bernie,
> >> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap
> >> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is
> >> just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that
> >> we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and
> >> coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for
> >> our needs for tracing.
> >>
> >
> >Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid
> >mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?
> >
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

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If we can get good pre-event imagery and do the building by building assessment 
I don’t think we will need post-event imagery but I can be on the lookout for 
it.

Dale
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On 5/9/16, 4:08 PM, "Paul Norman"  wrote:

>On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:
>> Bernie,
>> I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap 
>> unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is 
>> just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that 
>> we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and 
>> coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for 
>> our needs for tracing.
>>
>
>Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid 
>mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

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On 5/9/2016 12:43 PM, Kunce, Dale wrote:

Bernie,
I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap 
unfortunately this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is 
just an tiled image and does not provide us with the vector data that 
we need to complete our work. I’m happy to take the lead and 
coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is good enough for 
our needs for tracing.




Any hope of getting post-event imagery, which will allow us to avoid 
mapping buildings which no longer exist and shouldn't be in OSM?


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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Kunce, Dale]

Bernie,
I do see that the building footprints are in the esri basemap unfortunately 
this doesn’t actually help. The esri basemap data is just an tiled image and 
does not provide us with the vector data that we need to complete our work. I’m 
happy to take the lead and coordinate the mapping. The existing Bing imagery is 
good enough for our needs for tracing.

Thanks again for your help.

Dale
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From: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>>
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 2:58 PM
To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap 
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Cc: Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@redcross.org<mailto:dale.ku...@redcross.org>>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

Given that the US Red Cross are getting involved and have a need for buildings 
to be mapped so they can use their tool set is there any data sets we might be 
able to get hold of.  I'm thinking of using the Treasury Broad gateway which 
means its licensed for OSM but TB are also working with the provinces and some 
cites on Open Data data sets.

Thanks John

On 6 May 2016 at 20:20, Bernie Connors 
<berniejconn...@gmail.com<mailto:berniejconn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

  Looking at Esri's world topo basemap in Fort McMurray you can see that 
the building footprints are very complete. It could be a redundant use of our 
resources to obtain pre- fire imagery to digitize buildings. Almost anyone 
could create an app with ArcGIS Online to do Assessment of building damage.

Bernie.

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
From: Kevin Farrugia
Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:00 PM
To: Darren Ewaniuk
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires



There's been at least 20 captures of the area by satellites in the past 3 days, 
but what use are they going to be at this stage of the fire?

Also, what are we going to try to achieve once the fires are done? The roads 
are already there and Canada/Alberta have advanced spatial capabilities and 
detailed data for official purposes, so the work would basically entail 
deleting burned down buildings.

I'm willing to help out, just not clear what the goal with regards to data is 
going to be. :)

On May 6, 2016 7:42 PM, "Darren Ewaniuk" 
<darren_ewan...@hotmail.com<mailto:darren_ewan...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Global has some satellite images images after the fire attributed to Google / 
Terra Bella (ex-Skybox).  I believe they have in the past allowed imaging for 
open use before (Skybox For Good program) so may be able to do so here.


http://globalnews.ca/news/2685743/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-resident-in-convoy-through-community-calls-scene-very-apocalyptic/

The slides near the bottom have some aerial imaging of relevance:

14 - Wood Buffalo Estates / Martin Ridge Estates (Thickwood)
15 - Waterways

16 - Waterways (North)

17 - Beacon Hill (North)

18 - Abasands

19 - Aspen Gardens / Hilltop Estates / Downtown



From: Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com<mailto:heatherle...@gmail.com>>
Sent: May 5, 2016 10:39:31 PM
To: Simon Wood
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Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires


Hello

Let me know if you want me to connect you to the emergency managers in the 
area. I will give them a heads up that you are talking about it

Two of them are big fans of osm so they might help. But i leave this decision 
with you.

Heather

On 6 May 2016 04:59, "Simon Wood" 
<si...@mungewell.org<mailto:si...@mungewell.org>> wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
> Fort McMurray?

You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
be willing to donate access to footage.
https://www.urthecast.com

Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be
of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
will tell you if/when they have near passes.

They also have a live feed:
https://www.urthecast.com/live

Cheers,
Simon.


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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[john whelan]

Given that the US Red Cross are getting involved and have a need for
buildings to be mapped so they can use their tool set is there any data
sets we might be able to get hold of.  I'm thinking of using the Treasury
Broad gateway which means its licensed for OSM but TB are also working with
the provinces and some cites on Open Data data sets.

Thanks John

On 6 May 2016 at 20:20, Bernie Connors <berniejconn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>   Looking at Esri's world topo basemap in Fort McMurray you can see
> that the building footprints are very complete. It could be a redundant use
> of our resources to obtain pre- fire imagery to digitize buildings. Almost
> anyone could create an app with ArcGIS Online to do Assessment of building
> damage.
>
> Bernie.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
> *From: *Kevin Farrugia
> *Sent: *Friday, May 6, 2016 9:00 PM
> *To: *Darren Ewaniuk
> *Cc: *Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>
> There's been at least 20 captures of the area by satellites in the past 3
> days, but what use are they going to be at this stage of the fire?
>
> Also, what are we going to try to achieve once the fires are done? The
> roads are already there and Canada/Alberta have advanced spatial
> capabilities and detailed data for official purposes, so the work would
> basically entail deleting burned down buildings.
>
> I'm willing to help out, just not clear what the goal with regards to data
> is going to be. :)
> On May 6, 2016 7:42 PM, "Darren Ewaniuk" <darren_ewan...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Global has some satellite images images after the fire attributed
>> to Google / Terra Bella (ex-Skybox).  I believe they have in the past
>> allowed imaging for open use before (Skybox For Good program) so may be
>> able to do so here.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://globalnews.ca/news/2685743/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-resident-in-convoy-through-community-calls-scene-very-apocalyptic/
>>
>> The slides near the bottom have some aerial imaging of relevance:
>>
>>
>> 14 - Wood Buffalo Estates / Martin Ridge Estates (Thickwood)
>> 15 - Waterways
>>
>> 16 - Waterways (North)
>>
>> 17 - Beacon Hill (North)
>>
>> 18 - Abasands
>>
>> 19 - Aspen Gardens / Hilltop Estates / Downtown
>>
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>> *From:* Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* May 5, 2016 10:39:31 PM
>> *To:* Simon Wood
>> *Cc:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>>
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Let me know if you want me to connect you to the emergency managers in
>> the area. I will give them a heads up that you are talking about it
>>
>> Two of them are big fans of osm so they might help. But i leave this
>> decision with you.
>>
>> Heather
>> On 6 May 2016 04:59, "Simon Wood" <si...@mungewell.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
>>> > As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
>>> > Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
>>> > yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
>>> > Fort McMurray?
>>>
>>> You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
>>> be willing to donate access to footage.
>>> https://www.urthecast.com
>>>
>>> Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might
>>> be
>>> of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
>>> will tell you if/when they have near passes.
>>>
>>> They also have a live feed:
>>> https://www.urthecast.com/live
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon.
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[Bernie Connors]

  Hello,      Looking at Esri's world topo basemap in Fort McMurray you can see that the building footprints are very complete. It could be a redundant use of our resources to obtain pre- fire imagery to digitize buildings. Almost anyone could create an app with ArcGIS Online to do Assessment of building damage. Bernie. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.From: Kevin FarrugiaSent: Friday, May 6, 2016 9:00 PMTo: Darren EwaniukCc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMapSubject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest firesThere's been at least 20 captures of the area by satellites in the past 3 days, but what use are they going to be at this stage of the fire? 
Also, what are we going to try to achieve once the fires are done? The roads are already there and Canada/Alberta have advanced spatial capabilities and detailed data for official purposes, so the work would basically entail deleting burned down buildings.
I'm willing to help out, just not clear what the goal with regards to data is going to be. :)
On May 6, 2016 7:42 PM, "Darren Ewaniuk" <darren_ewan...@hotmail.com> wrote:






Global has some satellite images images after the fire attributed to Google / Terra Bella (ex-Skybox).  I believe they have in the past allowed imaging for open use before (Skybox For Good program) so may be able to do so here.


http://globalnews.ca/news/2685743/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-resident-in-convoy-through-community-calls-scene-very-apocalyptic/

The slides near the bottom have some aerial imaging of relevance:

14 - Wood Buffalo Estates / Martin Ridge Estates (Thickwood)
15 - Waterways
16 - Waterways (North)
17 - Beacon Hill (North)
18 - Abasands
19 - Aspen Gardens / Hilltop Estates / Downtown




From: Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com>
Sent: May 5, 2016 10:39:31 PM
To: Simon Wood
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
 


Hello
Let me know if you want me to connect you to the emergency managers in the area. I will give them a heads up that you are talking about it

Two of them are big fans of osm so they might help. But i leave this decision with you.

Heather
On 6 May 2016 04:59, "Simon Wood" <si...@mungewell.org> wrote:

On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
> Fort McMurray?

You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
be willing to donate access to footage.
https://www.urthecast.com

Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be
of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
will tell you if/when they have near passes.

They also have a live feed:
https://www.urthecast.com/live

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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Darren Ewaniuk]

Global has some satellite images images after the fire attributed to Google / 
Terra Bella (ex-Skybox).  I believe they have in the past allowed imaging for 
open use before (Skybox For Good program) so may be able to do so here.


http://globalnews.ca/news/2685743/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-resident-in-convoy-through-community-calls-scene-very-apocalyptic/

The slides near the bottom have some aerial imaging of relevance:

14 - Wood Buffalo Estates / Martin Ridge Estates (Thickwood)
15 - Waterways

16 - Waterways (North)

17 - Beacon Hill (North)

18 - Abasands

19 - Aspen Gardens / Hilltop Estates / Downtown



From: Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com>
Sent: May 5, 2016 10:39:31 PM
To: Simon Wood
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires


Hello

Let me know if you want me to connect you to the emergency managers in the 
area. I will give them a heads up that you are talking about it

Two of them are big fans of osm so they might help. But i leave this decision 
with you.

Heather

On 6 May 2016 04:59, "Simon Wood" 
<si...@mungewell.org<mailto:si...@mungewell.org>> wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
> Fort McMurray?

You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
be willing to donate access to footage.
https://www.urthecast.com

Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be
of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
will tell you if/when they have near passes.

They also have a live feed:
https://www.urthecast.com/live

Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Pierre Béland]

Classification higway 63 + zones en construction
Le tracé de la route 63, la classification et le statut construction ont besoin 
d'être validés.  L'Imagerie Bing n'est pas à date, plusieurs nouvelles sections 
de la route n'y apparaissant pas.

La section ci-dessous est indiquée en 
construction.http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370283029

Cependant, il n'y a aucune sortie au nord connectant avec la section existante 
de la 
route.https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3789965528#map=15/56.4932/-111.2973

Une section au sud de Fort McMurray est highway=trunk, puis au nord, primary.  
J'indiquerais pour la section au nord trunk et même motorway pour une section. 
 
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[Heather Leson]

Hello

Let me know if you want me to connect you to the emergency managers in the
area. I will give them a heads up that you are talking about it

Two of them are big fans of osm so they might help. But i leave this
decision with you.

Heather
On 6 May 2016 04:59, "Simon Wood"  wrote:

> On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
> > As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> > Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
> >
> >
> > Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> > yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
> > Fort McMurray?
>
> You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
> be willing to donate access to footage.
> https://www.urthecast.com
>
> Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be
> of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
> will tell you if/when they have near passes.
>
> They also have a live feed:
> https://www.urthecast.com/live
>
> Cheers,
> Simon.
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[Simon Wood]

On Thu, May 5, 2016 9:28 am, Andrew MacKinnon wrote:
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project for
> Fort McMurray?

You might get some help from UrtheCast, as a Canadian company they might
be willing to donate access to footage.
https://www.urthecast.com

Not sure that they can provide geo-referenced shots, but any info might be
of use. Their cameras are fixed on ISS, so any orbital software/website
will tell you if/when they have near passes.

They also have a live feed:
https://www.urthecast.com/live

Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[john whelan]

I think she pulled stat can address data for Toronto from GCODP.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 14:55, Begin Daniel <jfd...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I did not find any buildings (except those from Canvec and GeoBase) in the
> GCODP.
>
> May Mojgan got it from somewhere else? …
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* May-05-16 14:04
> *To:* Begin Daniel
> *Cc:* James; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>
>
>
> Mojgan recently imported some Stat Can data through the Government of
> Canada Oren Data portal.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 13:47, Begin Daniel <jfd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data
> from Geobase & Canvec are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for
> buildings, and I do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* May-05-16 12:42
> *To:* john whelan
> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>
>
>
> They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available?
> Nope. Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going
> up in flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it
> gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two
> tile systems over the same area.
>
> Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of
> every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also
> available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray.
> Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire
>
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall <rps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
> imagery.
>
> I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
>
> John Marshall
>
> On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
> satelite imagery.
>
> What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
> and we can trace buildings as they are not all there
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon <andrew...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
> for Fort McMurray?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Bernie Connors]

  The regional municipality of Wood Buffalo has municipal orthophotos and they also have orthophotos from Pictometry taken in May 2015. I know that Pictometry allows my organization to freely distribute the orthophotos. However none of this will be of any use if ‎nobody is available to provide access to their data. Their map viewer is still online do it is unlikely that it is in Fort McMurray - http://view.rmwb.caBernie. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.From: Begin DanielSent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 3:56 PMTo: john whelan; Begin DanielCc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMapSubject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires







I did not find any buildings (except those from Canvec and GeoBase) in the GCODP.
May Mojgan got it from somewhere else? …
Daniel
 
From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]

Sent: May-05-16 14:04
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: James; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
 


Mojgan recently imported some Stat Can data through the Government of Canada Oren Data portal.


Cheerio John



 

On 5 May 2016 at 13:47, Begin Daniel <jfd...@hotmail.com> wrote:


As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data from Geobase & Canvec are
 not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for buildings, and I do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?
 
Daniel
 
From: James
 [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]

Sent: May-05-16 12:42
To: john whelan
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires


 

They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in flames. Better to have data
 available, then none at all.


 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:


I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does
 then we get two tile systems over the same area.


Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways
 are also available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.


Cheerio John





 

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22




 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall <rps...@gmail.com> wrote:
I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier imagery.
I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
John Marshall



On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:


I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite imagery.

What I can do is create a task on
tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray and we can trace buildings as they are not all there


 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon <andrew...@gmail.com> wrote:
As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
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[Begin Daniel]

I did not find any buildings (except those from Canvec and GeoBase) in the 
GCODP.
May Mojgan got it from somewhere else? …
Daniel

From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
Sent: May-05-16 14:04
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: James; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

Mojgan recently imported some Stat Can data through the Government of Canada 
Oren Data portal.
Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 13:47, Begin Daniel 
<jfd...@hotmail.com<mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data from 
Geobase & Canvec are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for buildings, and I 
do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?

Daniel

From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com<mailto:james2...@gmail.com>]
Sent: May-05-16 12:42
To: john whelan
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. 
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in 
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan 
<jwhelan0...@gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets 
a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two tile 
systems over the same area.
Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every 
building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also available in 
CANVEC for firefighters etc.
Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James <james2...@gmail.com<mailto:james2...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. 
Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall 
<rps...@gmail.com<mailto:rps...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier imagery.

I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.

John Marshall
On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" <james2...@gmail.com<mailto:james2...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite 
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca<http://tasks.osmcanada.ca> 
for Fort McMurray and we can trace buildings as they are not all there

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
<andrew...@gmail.com<mailto:andrew...@gmail.com>> wrote:
As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
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[john whelan]

Mojgan recently imported some Stat Can data through the Government of
Canada Oren Data portal.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 13:47, Begin Daniel <jfd...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data
> from Geobase & Canvec are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for
> buildings, and I do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* May-05-16 12:42
> *To:* john whelan
> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
>
>
>
> They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available?
> Nope. Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going
> up in flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it
> gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two
> tile systems over the same area.
>
> Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of
> every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also
> available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray.
> Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire
>
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall <rps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
> imagery.
>
> I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
>
> John Marshall
>
> On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
> satelite imagery.
>
> What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
> and we can trace buildings as they are not all there
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon <andrew...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
> for Fort McMurray?
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Begin Daniel]

As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data from 
Geobase & Canvec are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for buildings, and I 
do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?

Daniel

From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: May-05-16 12:42
To: john whelan
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. 
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in 
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan 
<jwhelan0...@gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets 
a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two tile 
systems over the same area.
Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every 
building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also available in 
CANVEC for firefighters etc.
Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James <james2...@gmail.com<mailto:james2...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. 
Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall 
<rps...@gmail.com<mailto:rps...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier imagery.

I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.

John Marshall
On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" <james2...@gmail.com<mailto:james2...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite 
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca<http://tasks.osmcanada.ca> 
for Fort McMurray and we can trace buildings as they are not all there

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
<andrew...@gmail.com<mailto:andrew...@gmail.com>> wrote:
As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
for Fort McMurray?

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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Pierre Béland]

Priorités Réseau routier
Dans JOM Utiliser couche Routes Geobase- Ajouter noms de rues et routes- 
Ajouter adresses 

Attention, pour que rues soit bien détectées addr:street == highway name rue 
adjacente
Mettre noms au long (pas d'abbréviation comme sur carte Geobase)Boulevard, 
Street, Crescent, etc. 

Validation adresses, voir Geofabrik OSM Inspectormise-a-jour au 
24hhttp://bit.ly/1rtIgPr
  
Pierre 


  De : Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr>
 À : James <james2...@gmail.com>; john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> 
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
 Envoyé le : jeudi 5 mai 2016 13h18
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
   
C'est un projet que la communauté OSM du Canada est capable de gérer.
Tout comme John, je pense que les municipalités sont assez bien équipées en 
outils SIG et inventaire des immeubles.  Lors des inondations à 
Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu en 2011, les municipalités avaient des cartes très 
précises de chaque terrain.
Ce qui serait le plus utile dans un premier temps, c'est de travailler à 
l'extérieur de la zone urbaine de Fort McMurray.
Pour moi les priorités sont :- Tracer toutes les routes dans la région 
- Tracer des polygones autour des zones résidentielles dans les environ de Fort 
McMurray- Tracer tous les immeubles isolés à l'extérieur des zones urbaines. 
 
Pierre 


  De : James <james2...@gmail.com>
 À : john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> 
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
 Envoyé le : jeudi 5 mai 2016 12h42
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
  
They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. 
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in 
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets 
a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two tile 
systems over the same area.

Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every 
building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also available in 
CANVEC for firefighters etc.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. 
Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall <rps...@gmail.com> wrote:

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier 
imagery.I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.John 
MarshallOn May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite 
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray and we 
can trace buildings as they are not all there

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon <andrew...@gmail.com> wrote:

As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
for Fort McMurray?

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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Pierre Béland]

C'est un projet que la communauté OSM du Canada est capable de gérer.
Tout comme John, je pense que les municipalités sont assez bien équipées en 
outils SIG et inventaire des immeubles.  Lors des inondations à 
Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu en 2011, les municipalités avaient des cartes très 
précises de chaque terrain.
Ce qui serait le plus utile dans un premier temps, c'est de travailler à 
l'extérieur de la zone urbaine de Fort McMurray.
Pour moi les priorités sont :- Tracer toutes les routes dans la région 
- Tracer des polygones autour des zones résidentielles dans les environ de Fort 
McMurray- Tracer tous les immeubles isolés à l'extérieur des zones urbaines. 
 
Pierre 


  De : James <james2...@gmail.com>
 À : john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> 
Cc : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
 Envoyé le : jeudi 5 mai 2016 12h42
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires
   
They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope. 
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in 
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it gets 
a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two tile 
systems over the same area.

Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of every 
building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also available in 
CANVEC for firefighters etc.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray. 
Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire

http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall <rps...@gmail.com> wrote:

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier 
imagery.I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.John 
MarshallOn May 5, 2016 11:39, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite 
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray and we 
can trace buildings as they are not all there

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon <andrew...@gmail.com> wrote:

As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[James]

They may have a city GIS team, but is that data publically available? Nope.
Heck their "server" might even be toast as most of the city is going up in
flames. Better to have data available, then none at all.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:36 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it
> gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two
> tile systems over the same area.
>
> Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of
> every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also
> available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James  wrote:
>
>> I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray.
>> Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire
>>
>> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>>
>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall  wrote:
>>
>>> I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
>>> imagery.
>>>
>>> I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
>>>
>>> John Marshall
>>> On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:
>>>
 I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
 satelite imagery.
 What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
 and we can trace buildings as they are not all there

 On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
 wrote:

> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
> Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
> yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
> for Fort McMurray?
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[john whelan]

I'm not so sure of how much value this is.  HOT doesn't activate until it
gets a request from the ground for that reason.  If it does then we get two
tile systems over the same area.

Fort McMurray almost certainly has a City GIS system that has details of
every building, Ottawa certainly does.  The roads and highways are also
available in CANVEC for firefighters etc.

Cheerio John

On 5 May 2016 at 11:45, James  wrote:

> I've created a task on my tasking manager for buildings in Fort McMurray.
> Tracing buildings can help us flag buildings affected by the fire
>
> http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/22
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, John Marshall  wrote:
>
>> I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
>> imagery.
>>
>> I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.
>>
>> John Marshall
>> On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:
>>
>>> I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
>>> satelite imagery.
>>> What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
>>> and we can trace buildings as they are not all there
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
 Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

 Is any freely licensed aerial imagery of the affected area available
 yet? Will the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap team be creating a project
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Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[John Marshall]

I will check with my contacts in my day job if they will release thier
imagery.

I know DigitalGlobe are tasking thier satellites over Fort Mac.

John Marshall
On May 5, 2016 11:39, "James"  wrote:

> I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get
> satelite imagery.
> What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray
> and we can trace buildings as they are not all there
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Andrew MacKinnon 
> wrote:
>
>> As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
>> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>>
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[James]

I think we'll have to wait until the fire is put out before we get satelite
imagery.
What I can do is create a task on tasks.osmcanada.ca for Fort McMurray and
we can trace buildings as they are not all there

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wrote:

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> Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.
>
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[Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest fires

[Andrew MacKinnon]

As you are probably aware by now, a large portion of Fort McMurray,
Alberta has been destroyed by forest fires.

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