[Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-08-31 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all, I've see an increased use of block paving as a road surface on new housing developments. Example image: http://cms.esi.info/Media/productImages/38030_1338993270237_PF.jpg How are people tagging these? At first I wondered about the highway=living_street tag but the wiki page suggests

Re: [Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-08-31 Thread SK53
Hi Rob, I know others have mapped as in your first suggestion, but I'm strongly in favour of the second. Living Streets have particular regulations whereas modern estate roads (usually cul-de-sacs) do not. It is sometimes worth ascertaining if the block-paved sections are adopted highways, where

Re: [Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-08-31 Thread David Woolley
On 31/08/14 13:30, SK53 wrote: It is sometimes worth ascertaining if the block-paved sections are adopted highways, where they only occur at the ends of streets. In some cases these may just be a shared-access driveway. Not always easy to do of course. My impression is that councils are very

Re: [Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-08-31 Thread David Woolley
On 31/08/14 13:47, Rob Nickerson wrote: The one I saw the other day was a reasonably long loop road. It would expect it to either be maintained by the Local Authority or the Housing Association, In my experience, housing association roads, created in the last decade or so, are most unlikely

Re: [Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-08-31 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2014-08-31 12:51, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, I've see an increased use of block paving as a road surface on new housing developments. Example image: http://cms.esi.info/Media/productImages/38030_1338993270237_PF.jpg How are people tagging these? At first I wondered about the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-08-31 Thread Donald Noble
I have tended to map sections of residential streets with block paving, no footways, and either chicanes of just sharp corners to prevent people driving quickly as living_streets, whether or not they were explicitly designed as such. These also tend to be exclusively dead-end sections, rather than

Re: [Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-08-31 Thread Amaroussi-OSM
As far as I know for minor roads, I always default to using unclassified or residential (depending on the surrounding area’s predominant land use). I only use “Pedestrian” where such sign exists, and “Living streets” for actual home zones with “home zone” signs, if I ever found one.

[Talk-GB] Pedestrian Countdown crossings in London

2014-08-31 Thread Amaroussi-OSM
Hello, How should we distinguish the new pedestrian countdown crossings in London? Should we introduce “crossing_ref=countdown” in conjunction with “crossing=traffic_signals” as the unified description for such crossings, and similar ones in other cities?

Re: [Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-08-31 Thread Dan S
Hi all, By coincidence, I've just got home from mapping a home zone signposted area - first time I've seen one. I'm tagging it as living_street. Here it is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4004201 I would say do not use the tag just because of seeing block paving on the street. As far as

Re: [Talk-GB] Pedestrian Countdown crossings in London

2014-08-31 Thread SK53
Dont know, but I have pictures of a few. They also exist in Caceres, Spain and Tallinn, Latvia. Jerry On 31 August 2014 20:16, Amaroussi-OSM kurias...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, How should we distinguish the new pedestrian countdown crossings in London? Should we introduce

Re: [Talk-GB] Pedestrian Countdown crossings in London

2014-08-31 Thread David Woolley
On 31/08/14 21:28, SK53 wrote: Dont know, but I have pictures of a few. They also exist in Caceres, Spain and Tallinn, Latvia. I first encountered them in China about 13 years ago. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] UK use of highway=living_street

2014-08-31 Thread Richard Mann
Block paving is very common for residential streets in the Netherlands, so that's not really enough to distinguish a living_street. I'd keep highway=living_street for (at minimum) single surface, no clear distinction between where cars and pedestrians go, and no clear straight route for cars.