Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-10 Thread Warin
On 11-Feb-17 07:42 AM, Brian Prangle wrote: I've removed the offending tags from areas I know well,having walked them off and on for 30 years,i.e Snowdon massif, Glyders and Berwyns. I've left the poylgons suitably commented. Regards Brian On 9 February 2017 at 10:10, SK53

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

2017-02-10 Thread Brian Prangle
I've removed the offending tags from areas I know well,having walked them off and on for 30 years,i.e Snowdon massif, Glyders and Berwyns. I've left the poylgons suitably commented. Regards Brian On 9 February 2017 at 10:10, SK53 wrote: > Despite the problems of these

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Colin Smale
On 2017-02-10 18:42, Richard Mann wrote: > I'd stick to tags on the relations, and not super relations. Relations are > not categories. Relations are for things that are in spatial *relationship* > to one another, not just a collection. In this case there is a relationship. If I am

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Richard Mann
I'd stick to tags on the relations, and not super relations. Relations are not categories. Relations are for things that are in spatial *relationship* to one another, not just a collection. Richard On 10 Feb 2017 13:37, "SK53" wrote: > I'm really not sure that we should be

[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #342 31/01/2017-06/02/2017

2017-02-10 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 342, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/8725/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread SK53
I'm really not sure that we should be trying to map these at all. If we do I think Colin's approach is best: a super-relation of other admin entities. Not easy to create in the online editors but easy enough in JOSM. There is very little on the ground to allow verification, and I suspect many

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Brian, On 2017-02-10 12:36, Brian Prangle wrote: > H - that's one way I hadn't thought of. I was thinking of just adding a > tag to each boundary relation to indicate membership status along the lines > of west_midlands_combined_authority= constituent_member or >

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: Consultation for Open Transport Net (OTN)

2017-02-10 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone If you want to particpate in this exercise please reply to Shabana directly. It arises from the work we've doing with Birmingham City Council on traffic sensors, so it would be good if more than me participates as it helps to build the relationship with the City Council Regards

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Brian Prangle
H - that's one way I hadn't thought of. I was thinking of just adding a tag to each boundary relation to indicate membership status along the lines of west_midlands_combined_authority= constituent_member or non-constituent_member as appropriate. It should work just as well and won't fry my

[Talk-GB] Church Towers and Steeples

2017-02-10 Thread Stuart Reynolds
I didn’t like the “man-made” part of the tower tag, TBH, nor what I took to be the implication that it was a stand-alone element, which it generally isn’t. The tower tag on its own does have a number of useful attributes, though, which could be extended. So if we ignore the man-made tag, we

Re: [Talk-GB] Church architecture tagging

2017-02-10 Thread Andy Robinson
" Ah, the Ordance Survey view of the world: you're either a tower or a steeple ;)" Many have both! Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Dan S [mailto:danstowell+...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 February 2017 10:54 Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Church architecture tagging Hi Stuart, Ah,

Re: [Talk-GB] Church architecture tagging

2017-02-10 Thread Dan S
Hi Stuart, Ah, the Ordance Survey view of the world: you're either a tower or a steeple ;) Towers and steeples are just one of many building parts, which can be mapped the same way as other 3D aspects of buildings: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:part Heights are readily added

Re: [Talk-GB] Church architecture tagging

2017-02-10 Thread SK53
All I can say that this has been on my cartographic wish list for ages, but I have no specific ideas of how to do it. The simplest would be something like church:tower=yes etc. Churches are also good candidates for simple 3D buildings. Lastly tagging architectural styles on churches would be

[Talk-GB] Church architecture tagging

2017-02-10 Thread Stuart Reynolds
Hi All, On OS maps there is a distinction between churches with towers, churches with steeples, and “other” places of worship. These are all readily surveyable (so that we are not taking data from OS). But as far as I can determine, there is no tagging scheme that would allow towers or

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Colin Smale
Brian, isn't the geographical jurisdiction of the WMCA just the sum of the areas of the (non-) constituent members? How about using a relation containing the member authorities, with different roles to indicate constituent and non-constituent status? This model will allow for non-consituent

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone I've just added a relation for the boundary of the new West Midlands Cominbined Authority (which is the same as the old ceremonial West Midlands County, which I've left intact as it's still used I believe where postal addresses still

[Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Adam Snape
Thanks Phil and Colin, Thanks for clarifying. That makes sense and confirms that I don't need to change my current place mapping. Kind regards, Adam ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Adam, The trouble with the UK is that places don't have clear boundaries... 1) on the administrative side there are Civil Parishes, but large parts of the country are "unparished" and some parishes contain multiple "settlements" 2) Royal Mail have completely different ideas, which are for

Re: [Talk-GB] Should a place be tagged with a node or area?

2017-02-10 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Adam The place is put on the node. Normally only admim boundaries are mapped in OSM. Suburbs, localties etc do not tend to have defined boundaries so are generally only mapped as nodes. Phil (trigpoint) On Thu Feb 9 23:48:30 2017 GMT, Adam Snape wrote: > Thanks Phil, > > Our local place