Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Dear Andy, If Refill.org.uk were to "license" their data to OSM, under what terms would that be concretely? I don't want to misspeak (not show my total ignorance on the subject) when I talk to Rebecca Burgess, the Refill CEO on Tuesday. In the unlikely event that Refill's position changes,

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

In response to the question regarding the tagging the network name with the drinking_water:refill:network key, there is value for a network which becomes an open data partner and takes ownership for maintaining the accuracy of "their" network. Extracting via the overpass API all establishments

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

> On 14 Mar 2020, at 21:21, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > > On 14/03/2020 19:36, Jake Edmonds wrote: >>> On 14 Mar 2020, at 20:09, Mark Goodge >> > wrote: > >>> If we do come up with an agreed tagging system, I'd be happy to add tags >>> for all the establishments

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On 14/03/2020 19:36, Jake Edmonds wrote: On 14 Mar 2020, at 20:09, Mark Goodge > wrote: If we do come up with an agreed tagging system, I'd be happy to add tags for all the establishments in my town that I know offer this service. Maybe you have already

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 11:27, Jake Edmonds via Talk-GB wrote: > > I understand Refill.org.uk are unwilling to license their data. They said this in July 2017: https://twitter.com/Refill/status/31637345234945 I've been pressing them on the point of open licensing, recently:

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On 14/03/2020 17:45, Philip Barnes wrote: They do seem very secretive about the locations of these outlets, there appears to be no indication on their website even beyond there may be one somewhere in this area. They came to the council that I sit on to ask for grant funding to get the

[Talk-GB] Ficticious embankments?

I have just noticed some new "Embankments" added around a fortnight ago. These were added to some stone circles in Cornwall which I know well and have extensively surveyed. There is no trace of any embankments. No source was given and the user does not appear to be local. I have added a changeset

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Hi Phil, I respect your opinion about the fit for the Quarterly Project. I don't know enough about the project criteria to have an opinion - even if I am passionate on the subject. With respect to the locations, there are about 25,000 in the UK and Northern Ireland. The establishments don't

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 12:17 +0100, European Water Project wrote: > Dear Jez, > Gus Hoyt who was responsible at Refill UK (before being made > redundant), for all partnerships was a vocal proponent of > collaboration and open data. > > Unfortunately, the Refill board has consistently voted to

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

On 08/03/20 at 08:22pm, Andy Townsend wrote: On 08/03/2020 19:57, Andrew Hain wrote: Is there a resource I can point anyone who puts C numbers in the ref tag of roads at? Possibly the best place is previous discussions on this list, or links from there? It's perhaps also

Re: [Talk-GB] Abusive posts

Thanks Matthew On Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 12:14 Matthew Newton, < matthew-...@newtoncomputing.co.uk> wrote: > Hi all, > > Seen all the messages. Apologies for the delay in sorting this. > > In all the years I've been monitoring this list I don't ever recall > seeing behaviour like that. It most

Re: [Talk-GB] List moderator - volunteers needed

On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 12:21 +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Oops, I've just seen Matthew's post. > > @Matthew: I agree, this is rare. Are you happy with continuing to > support the talk-gb list on your own or will extra volunteers help? Generally there's not anything to do, this is a well behaved

Re: [Talk-GB] List moderator - volunteers needed

On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 12:16 +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > Are we allowed to know the person's name? The wiki refers to Matthew > Newton but I wasn't sure if this was still correct. Yup, that's still my name. :) Cheers, Matthew ___ Talk-GB

[Talk-GB] Related map vandalism reverted (was: List moderator - volunteers needed)

As an aside, I've recently (with a DWG hat on) reverted some "schoolkid vandalism" by an account with a similar-sounding name in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/82191956 , and asked the user to get in contact via https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3559 and an OSM PM with the

Re: [Talk-GB] Abusive posts

Hi Matthew, Thanks for dealing with this. I'm just glad that it is so rare. Regards,Peter On Saturday, 14 March 2020, 12:14:46 GMT, Matthew Newton wrote: Hi all, Seen all the messages. Apologies for the delay in sorting this. In all the years I've been monitoring this list I don't

Re: [Talk-GB] List moderator - volunteers needed

Oops, I've just seen Matthew's post. @Matthew: I agree, this is rare. Are you happy with continuing to support the talk-gb list on your own or will extra volunteers help? Regards Rob On Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 12:16 Rob Nickerson, wrote: > Thanks for the clarification Tom. > > Are we allowed to

Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

Hi dzidek23, What would be the workflow for adding new establishments and their associated tags using onosm.org ? Maybe through on the ground observation, some of the more than 25.000 establishments displaying a Refill UK sticker on their door can start being added to OSM. The more places

Re: [Talk-GB] List moderator - volunteers needed

Thanks for the clarification Tom. Are we allowed to know the person's name? The wiki refers to Matthew Newton but I wasn't sure if this was still correct. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists Thanks Rob On Sat, 14 Mar 2020, 11:38 Tom Hughes, wrote: > On 14/03/2020 11:37, Dan S

[Talk-GB] Abusive posts

Hi all, Seen all the messages. Apologies for the delay in sorting this. In all the years I've been monitoring this list I don't ever recall seeing behaviour like that. It most certainly isn't acceptable. Minor disagreements at times, sure, but outright abuse is way over the top. He's gone.

Re: [Talk-GB] List moderator - volunteers needed

On 14/03/2020 11:37, Dan S wrote: Op za 14 mrt. 2020 om 11:20 schreef Tom Hughes via Talk-GB : On 14/03/2020 11:13, Rob Nickerson wrote: As may have seen in Simon's response it sounds like we currently lack list moderators. If this is something you would like to do please email this mailing

Re: [Talk-GB] List moderator - volunteers needed

Op za 14 mrt. 2020 om 11:20 schreef Tom Hughes via Talk-GB : > > On 14/03/2020 11:13, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > > As may have seen in Simon's response it sounds like we currently lack > > list moderators. If this is something you would like to do please email > > this mailing list. > > > > Likewise

Re: [Talk-GB] List moderator - volunteers needed

On 14/03/2020 11:13, Rob Nickerson wrote: As may have seen in Simon's response it sounds like we currently lack list moderators. If this is something you would like to do please email this mailing list. Likewise we probably need to think about the criteria of what makes a good list

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Dear Jez, Gus Hoyt who was responsible at Refill UK (before being made redundant), for all partnerships was a vocal proponent of collaboration and open data. Unfortunately, the Refill board has consistently voted to keep their data proprietary to support their revenue model based on paid

[Talk-GB] List moderator - volunteers needed

Hi all, As may have seen in Simon's response it sounds like we currently lack list moderators. If this is something you would like to do please email this mailing list. Likewise we probably need to think about the criteria of what makes a good list moderator. If there are any traits that you'd

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

It will be interesting to hear about Refill UK's policy on Open Data. Perhaps they believe that their business model is inoperable if the data is open? I believe that they are a figurehead project from Ordnance Survey's Geovation scheme. I hope that they haven't tainted their data. On Fri, 13

Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

Am 14.03.2020 um 10:16 schrieb European Water Project: > This may come through twice... > > > Hi   dzidek23, > > What would be the workflow for adding new establishments and their > associated tags using onosm.org ?  > onosm.org simply creates notes, so less than

Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

This may come through twice... Hi dzidek23, > > What would be the workflow for adding new establishments and their > associated tags using onosm.org ? > > Maybe through on the ground observation, some of the more than 25.000 > establishments displaying a Refill UK sticker on their door can

Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

Thanks Simon, I had thought that such a tightly run and structured organisation as OSM would have someone moderating every mailing list Regards,Peter   On Saturday, 14 March 2020, 08:47:49 GMT, Simon Poole wrote: Peter I don't believe there is/are any active moderators at this

Re: [Talk-GB] European Water Project - Introduction

Peter I don't believe there is/are any active moderators at this point. The UK community should nominate one or more, and ask the OWG to instate them as list moderators. In any case pleading to them here will not work (and likely wouldn't work even if there were some). Simon Am 13.03.2020 um