Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On 06-Jun-17 08:36 AM, Dave F wrote: On 05/06/2017 22:55, Warin wrote: Threads, like conversations, drift Dave. And? So my reply applies to the drifted topic .. refer to /On 4 Jun 2017 4:44 p.m., "Matt Ellery" //wrote:// / /Hi,// // / /On a semi-related topic,// / and then to /On

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On 05/06/2017 22:55, Warin wrote: Threads, like conversations, drift Dave. And? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Threads, like conversations, drift Dave. On 05-Jun-17 09:35 PM, Adam Snape wrote: Hi, Yes, it's what I did regarding the original topic of this conversation. That's all sorted now. I think Warin refers to Matt Ellery's additional query from yesterday regarding a different mapper who has been

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Hi, Yes, it's what I did regarding the original topic of this conversation. That's all sorted now. I think Warin refers to Matt Ellery's additional query from yesterday regarding a different mapper who has been adding descriptions/details in brackets as part of the name tag. Adam On 5 June 2017

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On 04/06/2017 23:07, Warin wrote: Why are people so reluctant to contact another mapper? It was a question about tagging techniques. Asking on forums with a larger user base than one seems appropriate. Where I am not certain as to a 'best' method of doing something .. then I contact the

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

There probably are some uncooperative mappers out there who perceive any comment as criticism and insist upon doing things their own way in defiance of convention. But, surely the starting assumption should be that people are cooperative and just unaware of the conventions? I did contact the

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On 04/06/17 23:07, Warin wrote: Why are people so reluctant to contact another mapper? I think that is because they expect a "mind your own business" response, in which case there is no casting vote available. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On 05-Jun-17 02:43 AM, Adam Snape wrote: Yep, the name tag is only for the name. Any other details should be a tagged separately. It might be worth contacting the user as he is a prolific editor and continues to use the name tag for descriptions egs.

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Yep, the name tag is only for the name. Any other details should be a tagged separately. It might be worth contacting the user as he is a prolific editor and continues to use the name tag for descriptions egs. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/498029973 and

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Hi, On a semi-related topic, I've noticed that one particular mapper has been using the name tag to include extra information in my area, usually in parentheses e.g. http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/pvI Am I right to think that this is generally frowned upon? The mapper seems to have moved on for now,

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Hi Alt_name is used for an alternative *official* name, such as a different spelling etc. In this case loc_name appears more appropriate to me. DaveF On 01/06/2017 12:59, Adam Snape wrote: Hi, Possibly JOSM does. I used iD for this simple change. Whilst alt_name does seem odd, so would

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Hi, Possibly JOSM does. I used iD for this simple change. Whilst alt_name does seem odd, so would loc_name, so I thought it to be the better of two options.. If there's a consensus in favour of changing I'll happily do so. Regards, Adam On 1 June 2017 at 12:52, Marc Gemis

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Adam Snape wrote: > So that map users aren't confused by directions using non-existant names, > I've changed the Walton Summit example from name to alt_name and added a > note to explain. I have also changed the section of the M6 labelled

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Order 1998", though we now also have the M6 Toll (Collection of Tolls) > Regulations 2003) ) > > Cheers > Andy > > > -Original Message- > From: Andy Mabbett [mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk] > Sent: 31 May 2017 20:02 > To: Talk GB > Subject: Re: [Talk-G

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

The replies so far seem to favour altering the tag to alt_name or loc_name. If there are no more responses I'll go ahead and change it accordingly. The Mancunian Way is another named motorway. I've just noticed that the Preston Bypass (part of the M6) is also named in OSM. It is inarguable that

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 20:02 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 31 May 2017 at 18:38, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > Motorways in the UK do no have names > > I'll bear that in mind, the next time I'm driving down the Aston > Expressway: > >    

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On 31 May 2017 at 18:38, Philip Barnes wrote: > Motorways in the UK do no have names I'll bear that in mind, the next time I'm driving down the Aston Expressway: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/full-closures-of-a38m-aston-expressway-and-m6-junction-6-this-weekend

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On Wed, 31 May 2017, Philip Barnes wrote: > these have been removed as there is no evidence of them existing. Lets remind ourselves how we map from scratch (before signs): 1. We measure + record what we see on the ground 2. We ask local humans to supply the names/numbers/dates

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:44 +0100, Adam Snape wrote: > Hi, > > But we do.include local names which are neither official nor signed. > There is at least some inconsistency in application of the > verifiability criteria. > > Local names are one thing, this could be moved to loc_name if there is

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

'local knowledge'? On Wed, 31 May 2017 18:39 Philip Barnes, wrote: > On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:29 +0100, Adam Snape wrote: > > Hi > > > > "Is it signed as such?" > > > > No. No signed or official name. > > We have had issues with other mappers adding made up fantasy >

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Hi, But we do.include local names which are neither official nor signed. There is at least some inconsistency in application of the verifiability criteria. Adam On 31 May 2017 6:38 p.m., "Philip Barnes" wrote: > On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:29 +0100, Adam Snape wrote: > > Hi

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

2017-05-31 18:38 GMT+01:00 Philip Barnes : > On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:29 +0100, Adam Snape wrote: >> Hi >> >> "Is it signed as such?" >> >> No. No signed or official name. > > We have had issues with other mappers adding made up fantasy > descriptive names to motorways and

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On Wed, 2017-05-31 at 18:29 +0100, Adam Snape wrote: > Hi > > "Is it signed as such?" > > No. No signed or official name.  We have had issues with other mappers adding made up fantasy descriptive names to motorways and trunk roads, these have been removed as there is no evidence of them

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Hi "Is it signed as such?" No. No signed or official name. Adam On 31 May 2017 5:15 p.m., "Derick Rethans" wrote: > On Wed, 31 May 2017, Adam Snape wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a local > > stretch of

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On Wed, 31 May 2017, Adam Snape wrote: > A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway > Should we tag such unofficial names > The main name tag seems wrong, loc_name would seem closest but also > probably wrong. I tend to think of 'loc_name=' as meaning "col-LOQ-uial name",

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

On Wed, 31 May 2017, Adam Snape wrote: > Hi, > > A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a local > stretch of motorway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4720086 . The > motorway is officially unnamed like most motorways but this pretty unusual > stretch is known amongst

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

I'd imagine it's unusual but I don't see why not. Just my 2p, of course 2017-05-31 17:12 GMT+01:00 Adam Snape : > Hi Dan, > > Thanks, I hadn't considered that one. Is it okay to use an alt_name tag on a > road without an actual proper name? > > Adam > > On 31 May 2017 at

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Hi Dan, Thanks, I hadn't considered that one. Is it okay to use an alt_name tag on a road without an actual proper name? Adam On 31 May 2017 at 17:09, Dan S wrote: > alt_name? > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:alt_name > > 2017-05-31 17:01 GMT+01:00 Adam

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

alt_name? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:alt_name 2017-05-31 17:01 GMT+01:00 Adam Snape : > Hi, > > A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a local > stretch of motorway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4720086 . The motorway > is

[Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

Hi, A new mapper has added a name tag, name=Walton Summit Motorway to a local stretch of motorway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4720086 . The motorway is officially unnamed like most motorways but this pretty unusual stretch is known amongst road enthusiasts by the descriptive name "Walton