Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 11:19 +, SomeoneElse wrote: SomeoneElse wrote: I'm planning to remove names that I can't find evidence for I think that it's clear from the replies to this that the general concensus is in favour of not having these as names. I'll get on with updating the

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-21 Thread SomeoneElse
SomeoneElse wrote: I'm planning to remove names that I can't find evidence for I think that it's clear from the replies to this that the general concensus is in favour of not having these as names. I'll get on with updating the road, in each case moving the previous name to description.

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rovastar wrote: Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass, etc don't as far I I know appear on the ground however I think the some record should appear in OSM. I am worried about the trend in this case of placing them as the name of the road as what reference point would people use for these.

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Richard Mann
I'd use alt_name. At least it's an established place to look for alternative stuff. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Rovastar wrote: Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass, etc don't as far I I know appear on the ground however I think the some record

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Roger Calvert
'description' might be an appropriate tag - after all that is what the phrase Foston Hat­ton Hilton Bypass actually is. Roger On 20/02/2013 08:30, Richard Mann wrote: I'd use alt_name. At least it's an established place to look for alternative stuff. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:17 AM,

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Hill
what you have done. Can you explain what you are doing before we revert the changes and look at getting you banned. Cheers, John Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:11:53 + From: li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread colin
. I take it there are no name signs for Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass? Colin in Bingley - Original Message - From: Chris Hill To:John Baker , Cc: Sent:Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:26:44 + Subject:Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere) How did the mapper get this info? What

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
:26:44 + Subject:Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere) How did the mapper get this info? What licence is it under? FoI for example is copyright and so still needs to be released under a suitable licence. AFAIK local authorities are responsible for naming roads not the DfT

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread SomeoneElse
Chris Hill wrote: How did the mapper get this info? What licence is it under? FoI for example is copyright and so still needs to be released under a suitable licence. AFAIK local authorities are responsible for naming roads not the DfT. (from OSM messages from the original mapper following

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Philip Barnes wrote: I did briefly discuss this with Andy on IRC and the other issue is the insertion of soft-hyphens into the names so Hatton becomes Hat-ton. Not sure why, is he trying to make a satnav pronounce each syllable? Or copied and pasted from a document? cheers Richard --

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread John Baker
SomeoneElse) can talk sense to him. John Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 03:42:03 -0800 From: rich...@systemed.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere) Philip Barnes wrote: I did briefly discuss this with Andy on IRC and the other issue

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Colin Smale
to him. John Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 03:42:03 -0800 From: rich...@systemed.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere) Philip Barnes wrote: I did briefly discuss this with Andy on IRC and the other issue is the insertion of soft

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Dudley Ibbett
@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere) Aha, it's Mauls is it... He is indeed very prolific, and adds a lot of missing details across the whole planet. However he never seems to disclose his sources, either in the source tag or in changeset comments. Colin

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 19:38, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: ...I certainly wouldn't defend his attitude... I don't know Mauls from Adam but how would you feel if you had been contributing to the project for five years and someone you'd never heard of sent you an unfriendly message

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/02/13 20:15, Kevin Peat wrote: On 20 Feb 2013 19:38, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com mailto:dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: ...I certainly wouldn't defend his attitude... I don't know Mauls from Adam but how would you feel if you had been contributing to the project for

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 21:14, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: ...He copied data from a local newspaper article to name a road wrongly... Mauls might be wrong in this case but the name of a road in the local paper isn't copyrighted. It's a basic fact, the newspaper didn't create it and they

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 15:01 +0100, Colin Smale wrote: Aha, it's Mauls is it... He is indeed very prolific, and adds a lot of missing details across the whole planet. However he never seems to disclose his sources, either in the source tag or in changeset comments. I have spotted that Mauls

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Andrew
Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes: Philip Barnes wrote: I did briefly discuss this with Andy on IRC and the other issue is the insertion of soft-hyphens into the names so Hatton becomes Hat-ton. Not sure why, is he trying to make a satnav pronounce each syllable? Or

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-19 Thread John Baker
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere) The user looks like a troll. None of his/her/bot changesets have any comments. And they bounce all over the world. I think he deleted the original roads on the 21 jan 2013 as the history in OSM says they are new roads. Can someone

[Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-18 Thread SomeoneElse
Recently various sections along the A50 between Derby and Stoke have grown names, for example here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/202232245/history I've driven along that section of road many times, and I don't believe I've seen a name on any of the new sections. According to

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-18 Thread John Baker
what you are doing before we revert the changes and look at getting you banned. Cheers, John Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:11:53 + From: li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere) Recently various sections