Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:24:44 + John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: Hello John, In one case, the location of the path is clear, because it runs between two walls and the green Public Footpath signs are present, but a section of it has become completely and densely overgrown with

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-26 Thread Jonathan Harley
On 26/01/13 14:41, Brad Rogers wrote: John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote: In one case, the location of the path is clear, because it runs between two walls and the green Public Footpath signs are present, but a section of it has become completely and densely overgrown with brambles. It

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:56:53 + Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote: Hello Jonathan, Actually, AIUI, the landowner can't be forced to, but if the landowner won't reinstate and clear the path, the council must. The council can then charge the full cost of them doing so to the landowner

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-25 Thread Andy Street
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 10:09 +, John Aldridge wrote: All this discussion of rights of way reminds me: is there a consensus about how (and whether) to map rights-of-way which are either impassable or invisible? I've encountered examples of both round here, and have so far chosen not to

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Hill
Report the problem to your local authority who have a legal obligation to sort it out with the landowner. My local councils do sort it out, occasionally they need a reminder, but it is worth the effort. I only add a PRoW if I have surveyed it on the ground, so if it is impassable I would not

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/01/2013 10:09, John Aldridge wrote: I've encountered examples of both round here, and have so far chosen not to map them at all, on the grounds that we're trying to map the actual state of the ground, not some legal fiction. We should be mapping to both conditions, If, on the ground,

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-25 Thread Andy Street
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 13:58 +, Dave F. wrote: Blockages of ways are often just temporary. I disagree with Andy Street's comment: If you can't traverse a right of way then it shouldn't have a highway tag. Okay perhaps I could have been clearer but I wasn't suggesting omitting the highway

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-25 Thread Henry Gomersall
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 18:52 +, Andy Street wrote: when someone builds a house over a public right of way Does that happen often? Is there not some requirement to then knock the house down again if it's blocking a right of way? hen ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-25 Thread Andy Street
On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 19:01 +, Henry Gomersall wrote: On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 18:52 +, Andy Street wrote: when someone builds a house over a public right of way Does that happen often? Is there not some requirement to then knock the house down again if it's blocking a right of way?

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-25 Thread ASnail Snail
it as official in OSM and the source is the notice board, otherwise I guess they can only mark it as a path.From: h...@cantab.net To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:01:42 + Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 18:52 +, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

2013-01-25 Thread John Aldridge
On 25/01/2013 18:52, Andy Street wrote: On Fri, 2013-01-25 at 13:58 +, Dave F. wrote: Blockages of ways are often just temporary. I disagree with Andy Street's comment: If you can't traverse a right of way then it shouldn't have a highway tag. Okay perhaps I could have been clearer but I