Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread Andrew Hain
SK53 writes: > many contributors do it not purely to add stuff to OSM, but for a multitude of other reasons: > to learn more about the places around where one lives; > to get out; > to meet-up with like minded people; > to get some exercise; > to go to the less obvious places; > to

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread Dave F
I'm currently perusing the datasets of Bath & North East Somerset that's been distributed via Bath: Hacked. https://github.com/BathHacked/banes-geographic-data (I'll be posting a separate thread to clarifying a couple of points about it soon). These sets certainly contain useful information,

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread SK53
Actually I enjoy the process of going out & surveying stuff for OSM. Of course it's nice that we can be better (more up-to-date, more detail, additional attributes etc) than other map providers, but many contributors do it not purely to add stuff to OSM, but for a multitude of other reasons:

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread Stuart Reynolds
There are two huge advantages to OSM, even just looking at the UK. The first is timeliness. OSM is almost always faster with new features than OS (although accepting you also need a friendly local mapper). Just as a case in point, we were looking at Wickhurst Green, near Horsham, only this

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread Rob Nickerson
Yeah I think that is a good benefit and will be an element end users consider. Mixing data by country is however easy to do from an OSM licence point of view. For example telenav use (or at least did use) OSM in the USA but something else in other countries quite easily for many months. Thus,

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data

2016-03-29 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-03-29 11:46, John Aldridge wrote: > An example is parish boundaries which, I understand, have been imported from > Ordnance Survey data. The problem with these are that they often get > inadvertently corrupted in OSM: they tend to lie along other features, which > means that it's

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread Marc Gemis
Isn't one of the main benefits to have the data for the whole world in 1 format ? Compare that to having to download open data files from government sites from all over the world from sites in different languages in different formats and having to combine those ... m On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread John Aldridge
On 29-Mar-16 10:19, Rob Nickerson wrote: Should we attempt to include everything that is in the open data datasets plus our on the ground additions (manually or, unless we suddenly get many more mappers, by some form of controlled merge) or should we leave the end users with the task of mixing

[Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread Rob Nickerson
Oh come on I'm not here to bash the history of OSM. I think what we have done is incredible and I genuinely believe that the presence of OSM has pushed both the government (the OS) and Google to where we are now - strong competition and more open data. We have open data now - great. The question

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread Paul Sladen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 29 Mar 2016, Rob Nickerson wrote: > P.P.S. By which I'm asking: do you think that (unless we get loads of new > mappers) more availability of open data possess a threat to OSM in the UK A decade ago a person called Steve needed a map and

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread Rob Nickerson
Thanks all. My other food for thought is: Should we attempt to include everything that is in the open data datasets plus our on the ground additions (manually or, unless we suddenly get many more mappers, by some form of controlled merge) or should we leave the end users with the task of mixing

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

2016-03-29 Thread Andy Allan
On 26 March 2016 at 06:30, Rob Nickerson wrote: > How do we ensure the mix continues to contain a lot of OSM data? At the highest level, by making sure the focus of OpenStreetMap is on-the-ground mapping, which best enables us to capture valuable information that's