Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Mark Goodge
On 26/09/2018 17:33, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 17:18 +0100, Tony Shield wrote: From the examples given it seems that passing the facing sign is the limiting event, the end of the restriction may be posted with a grey end of restriction sign; surveying them could be a

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 17:18 +0100, Tony Shield wrote: > Hi > > What are we going to tag? The length of road/way with the > restriction  > and which lanes, or the placement of the sign as a node and with > some  > directionality. > >  From the examples given it seems that passing the facing sign

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Tony Shield
Hi What are we going to tag? The length of road/way with the restriction and which lanes, or the placement of the sign as a node and with some directionality. From the examples given it seems that passing the facing sign is the limiting event, the end of the restriction may be posted with a

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Mark Goodge
On 26/09/2018 14:21, Paul Berry wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 13:10, Mark Goodge > wrote: Another issue is how we tag "gateway" weight restrictions. These apply only to traffic in one direction, and not to an entire length of road. They're typically

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On 26 September 2018 15:21:41 BST, David Woolley wrote: >In practice you are not going to get an HGV restriction below 7.5T MAM >as that would rule out appliance delivery vehicles and house movers. That is why most are qualified with except for loading or except for access. I guess

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Colin Smale
The term "HGV" is not actually legally defined in the UK. Goods vehicles start from 3.5T MAM. There is a special driving licence group D1 which allows you to drive up to 7.5T, but the difference is in the licence, not the vehicle. The sign with an image of a lorry is used for a so-called

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread David Woolley
On 26/09/18 14:49, Tobias Zwick wrote: Thank you for the answers given. Perhaps there are some misunderstandings, so I want to clarify two points: 1. A HGV is defined as a vehicle with a max allowable mass of above 3.5t, even in the UK. Tagging "hgv=no" when seeing this sign is plain incorrect,

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Tobias Zwick
Thank you for the answers given. Perhaps there are some misunderstandings, so I want to clarify two points: 1. A HGV is defined as a vehicle with a max allowable mass of above 3.5t, even in the UK. Tagging "hgv=no" when seeing this sign is plain incorrect, except if we specifically redefine only

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Berry
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 at 13:10, Mark Goodge wrote: > Another issue is how we tag "gateway" weight restrictions. These apply > only to traffic in one direction, and not to an entire length of road. > They're typically used in towns and villages that have been by-passed, > to ensure that HGV through

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On 26 September 2018 13:13:51 BST, Mark Goodge wrote: > > >On 26/09/2018 13:00, Colin Smale wrote: >> On 2018-09-26 13:48, David Woolley wrote: >> >>> In that specific case (7.5T), which is the most common, it would be >>> hgv=no, as that is the defining maximum authorised mass for an HGV.

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Tony Shield
Hi Tobias How is it done in Europe or The Netherlands - is it different to the answers given? Tony On 26/09/2018 12:35, Tobias Zwick wrote: Hey there I can't believe this didn't come up before - or maybe it did but was not documented in the wiki. In United Kingdom, how do you tag roads

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Mark Goodge
On 26/09/2018 13:00, Colin Smale wrote: On 2018-09-26 13:48, David Woolley wrote: In that specific case (7.5T), which is the most common, it would be hgv=no, as that is the defining maximum authorised mass for an HGV.  I'd consider maxweight, for higher limits. Is a bus/coach considered

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Mark Goodge
On 26/09/2018 12:35, Tobias Zwick wrote: Hey there I can't believe this didn't come up before - or maybe it did but was not documented in the wiki. In United Kingdom, how do you tag roads signed with this sign? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK_traffic_sign_622.1A.svg That's a good

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Colin Smale
On 2018-09-26 13:48, David Woolley wrote: > In that specific case (7.5T), which is the most common, it would be hgv=no, > as that is the defining maximum authorised mass for an HGV. I'd consider > maxweight, for higher limits. Is a bus/coach considered to be a goods vehicle for these

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread SK53
I can only answer for my self. I generally tag these I usually see with a plain hgv=destination, possibly with maxweight=7.5t. The sign is very rare without an additional plate allowing for deliveries. I do this largely because I want to capture the information rather than because it is the most

Re: [Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread David Woolley
In that specific case (7.5T), which is the most common, it would be hgv=no, as that is the defining maximum authorised mass for an HGV. I'd consider maxweight, for higher limits. The traditional UK term is Gross Weight, but the, more scientifically correct, term now used, in formal

[Talk-GB] Access restrictions for lorries above a certain GVM

2018-09-26 Thread Tobias Zwick
Hey there I can't believe this didn't come up before - or maybe it did but was not documented in the wiki. In United Kingdom, how do you tag roads signed with this sign? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UK_traffic_sign_622.1A.svg Note that the GVM for which the sign applies is given