Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD

SomeoneElse lists@... writes: I logged a bug with iD regarding the non-visibility of some items in the background layer menu:https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1929#issuecomment-27236976 The issue that I actually logged is actually being addressed as part of a different

Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/announce/ :) (it's a bit unloved though... needs more people volunteering for CWG to help) Could that go into the community blogs for people who follow OSM bu web pages? -- Andrew

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: OpenStreetBugs PhaseOut: help needed, Mapping party

Andy Allan gravitystorm@... writes: Great to see lots of other people diving in over the last hour or so! Be bold! Cheers, Andy Northern Ireland is now free of OpenStreetBugs. -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Key: PMSA_ref

Andy Mabbett andy@... writes: I've tidied up and updated the documentation for Public Monuments Sculpture Association PMSA references: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:PMSA_ref ... For example, WMbiBIxx288 is now: http://pmsa.cch.kcl.ac.uk/pmsa-database/6690/

Re: [Talk-GB] UK postcodes on each side of the road

Lester Caine lester@... writes: and in this case, the street and other location data can be provided by tags on a street rather than duplicating that data unnecessarily on every building ... Surely that’s what associatedStreet relations are for. -- Andrew

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

Ed Loach edloach@... writes: There is a bit in the wiki which recommends avoiding transliterations: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Avoid_transliteration It was only put in recently and I personally find it unhelpful. Would anyone object to removing it? -- Andrew

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

Philip Barnes phil@... writes: I am going to use the horrible word, mechanical edit, but I feel it needs sorting out. I propose that nothing is removed, but the ref tag for tertiary and unclassified is moved to official_ref. This will retain the data and allow OSM to be used by those who

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

Philip Barnes phil@... writes: I have carried out a first changeset, can anyone spot anything wrong before I continue? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24727341#map=8/52.507/-3.796 Thanks Phil (trigpoint) References beginning with three or more letters or containing a

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping turn lanes on major roads

SomeoneElse lists@... writes: I'd always assumed that the correct way to map turn lanes is via: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn:lanes . However, some mappers in the UK* have started mapping each individual lane as a separate parallel road. Here's an example:

[Talk-GB] Canadian postcodes at State of the Map

Ervin Ruci of Geolytica gave an interesting presentation at SotM, now available on video[1], about his efforts to build a crowdsourced postcode database. Apart from technical matters he also talked about legal issues with Canada Post.

Re: [Talk-GB] Discussion of Mechanical Edits

Andy Allan gravitystorm@... writes: This mailing list appears to be having some sort of immune-response over-reaction. We don't like mechanical edits in general. Fine. Therefore every mechanical edit must be fought against, to the bitter end. That's an over-reaction. No, that can't work

[Talk-GB] Totesport

Betfred took over Totesport a few years ago but there are still tags name=Totesport, name=totesport or operator=Totesport in Ashford, Birmingham(2), London (2), Manchester (2), Northampton, Oxford, Rotherham and Wakefield. -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] route relations type=road

But surely I can see no obvious harm in the presence of the relations. Also searching the database by reference doesn’t always work, for instance not all road segments tagged A1 in the UK are part of the road from London to Edinburgh. -- Andrew From:

[Talk-GB] London meetup on Thursday

The next London pub meetup will be on Thursday 16th June at 7pm in the Monkey Puzzle near Paddington station (http://themonkeypuzzlepub.co.UK). Sorry for the short notice. -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

I still get internal errors in a few places, for instance Richmond upon Thames. -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

I’m getting internal server errors when I try to look at the previews. -- Andrew From: Edward Betts Sent: 11 March 2016 15:46 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland I've added

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Well done and congratulations. Building or land tags can go on multipolygons, in fact it manages cases more complicated than this one better. It does seem silly to have just one tag in a different place though. -- Andrew From: Edward Betts

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

John Aldridge writes: > By ensuring that OSM data is of higher quality, or contains useful > information still absent from those other sources. If we can't or don't > do that, OSM (in the UK) will cease to have a purpose, and can be left > to wither un-mourned. Plus, usefully be

Re: [Talk-GB] Open data (Was: Parliamentary debate mentions OSM)

SK53 writes: > many contributors do it not purely to add stuff to OSM, but for a multitude of other reasons: > to learn more about the places around where one lives; > to get out; > to meet-up with like minded people; > to get some exercise; > to go to the less obvious places; > to

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM UK site

Christian Ledermann writes: > > I'd also like to see an aggregator like http://planetpython.org/ or > http://planet.plone.org/ > to have a central place where all UK OSM related blogs are consolidated > which could be integrated in the main website (see

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

Just out of interest, are unincorporated areas in Australia tagged with boundary relations? -- Andrew From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: 15 August 2016 12:00 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

Every account that has ever been blocked has a link from the profile called “Active blocks”. -- Andrew From: Paul Sladen Sent: 17 August 2016 11:04:20 To: Will Phillips Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" in Wales?

According to http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=2762871 edits in Brazil, Russia, the United Arab Emirates and Senegal have also attracted criticism from locally knowledgeable mappers, looking like someone who is at best out of their depth. -- Andrew

Re: [Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

OSM is influenced by the maps its contributors see and are used to. In Britain that includes names of isolated farms on Ordnance Survey maps. -- Andrew From: Dave F Sent: 17 January 2017 23:00:37 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] Named landuse polygons

A recent changeset in southwest London [https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43807789] added names to landuse=residential and landuse=commercial polygons. The mapper has not responded to the changeset comment that I left some weeks ago. The names themselves read more like descriptions to me

Re: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive mapper

Do we know how these values are calculated, for instance do they come from an external source? -- Andrew From: Colin Smale Sent: 15 August 2016 08:39 To: Talk-GB Subject: [Talk-GB] ref:hectares on admin boundary, and non-responsive

[Talk-GB] FHRS and businesses run from home

Some FHRS entries refer to people's names, or to business names, with the address of a private house. These may be people who cook from home or itinerantly. Is it however appropriate for OSM to map these addresses as anything more than houses, for example by adding fhrs:id or the name in the

[Talk-GB] OSM point of interest counts in each district as a proportion of FHRS

As an exercise in measuring OSM’s coverage I have crunched the numbers in GregRS’s CSV output to calculate the number of OSM candidates in each district as a proportion of the number of FHRS entries that the program reports. The figures are a bit arbitrary and values over 100% are not

[Talk-GB] OSM point of interest counts in each district as a proportion of FHRS

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[Talk-GB] Notes for places removed from FHRS?

Richmond has updated its FHRS records and two entries that previously appeared in the list are now reported as unresolved in the GregRS tool. Should I add notes that they are no longer in FHRS and should be checked in the ground or is adding notes from public quality assurance tools a bad

Re: [Talk-GB] Notes for places removed from FHRS?

I am more interested in the possibility that the business has closed. -- Andrew From: SK53 <sk53@gmail.com> Sent: 21 December 2016 13:17:48 To: Andrew Hain Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Notes for places removed from FHRS? Techn

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Summer 2017 July-Sept

There are some State of the Map talks this year that may be relevant: Jungle Bus: Public transport networks mapping made easy Challenges of open data in Japanese public transport Bus stop maintenance in Switzerland (lightning talk) Hopefully anyone unlucky enough not to see them live can get a

Re: [Talk-GB] Shared Public Rights of Way

You can add route relations for each number, that way you can search for the real prow_ref, not hidden between semicolons. -- Andrew From: Bob Hawkins Sent: 04 July 2017 12:05:25 To: Ed Loach; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-london] New OSM London Meetup - Invite

Does it include stations belonging to Network Rail? -- Andrew From: Stuart Reynolds Sent: 08 May 2017 23:44:56 To: Derick Rethans Cc: Bjoern Hassler; talk-gb-lon...@openstreetmap.org; osm-gb Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed Import of UK Shell Filling Stations

Is it actually better to use the website as a unique identifier instead of a magic number? That way you can check the information online and tools such as Keepright will alert you if the web page disappears. -- Andrew From: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)

Re: [Talk-GB] Museums in Berwick-upon-Tweed

What is the easiest way to locate national grid references on the map? We could then put notes on the map if there is no-one to check. -- Andrew From: Frederik Ramm Sent: 28 May 2017 10:24:19 To: OSM GB mailing list Subject: [Talk-GB]

Re: [Talk-GB] "an extraordinary quirk in the UK address system"

Anyone up to filling in http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.5308/-2.3532 then? -- Andrew From: Andy Mabbett Sent: 12 September 2017 22:22:35 To: OSM GB mailing list Subject: [Talk-GB] "an extraordinary quirk in the UK address

Re: [Talk-GB] Are Northern Ireland, Wales & England 'states'?

Should we go a bit further and strip out all is_in tags not used by Nominatim across Britain (which may mean all of them), or are there other uses we should consider? The community in France did that when they finished mapping communes. -- Andrew From: Dave F

Re: [Talk-GB] NatWest / RBS Branch closures

Are there quality assurance tools that flag out of date names like Lloyds TSB? -- Andrew From: Paul Berry Sent: 01 December 2017 13:18:33 To: co...@thespillers.org.uk Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] NatWest / RBS Branch

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

There is another dataset you can use, the food hygiene ratings [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Food_Hygiene_Rating_System] at http://ratings.food.gov.uk that has postcodes for shops selling food, which includes many petrol stations. It includes Northern Ireland but not the Isle of Man

Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us

And some with an apostrophe: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=Lloyd+TSB#values -- Andrew From: Rob Nickerson Sent: 08 May 2018 00:19:36 To: Brian Prangle Cc: Talk-GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us >Lloyds and TSB banks

[Talk-GB] House of Fraser

House of Fraser today announced today that half their branches are to close, listing which ones. Although shops should not yet be removed does it make sense with this announcement (or others like it in the future) to put notes or fixmes in the 31 locations involved? -- Andrew

Re: [Talk-GB] Has someone just given us (the start of) access to the crown jewels?

The property extents might be something that can be turned into landuse polygons. The existing ones where I live are very low quslity. -- Andrew From: Tim Waters Sent: 14 June 2018 14:09:57 To: OSM - Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Has someone just given us (the

Re: [Talk-GB] Local names of bits of trunk roads

You could also check the way histories to see if the local road names have been mapped in the past. -- Andrew From: Adam Snape Sent: 25 June 2018 17:11:04 To: Stuart Reynolds Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Local names of bits of trunk roads And, to actually

Re: [Talk-GB] Local names of bits of trunk roads

You might want to ask for Nominatim to return relations for queries of road names. -- Andrew From: Paul Berry Sent: 25 June 2018 15:59:36 To: David Woolley Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Local names of bits of trunk roads Someone's had a brave go at

[Talk-GB] Dentist with name of person

If a dental practice has the name of the dentist in large letters on the fascia (rather than any other name) does that count as a business name to be mapped or personal information to be kept private? -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project: Addresses and Postcodes

Are you saying that anything with a postcode beginning with SW should be tagged addr:city=London and anything beginning with TW9 or TW10 should be tagged addr:city=Richmond? -- Andrew From: Adam Snape Sent: 19 October 2017 09:35:40 To:

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

My experience has been that although a missing FHRS entry is a useful warning of what to resurvey, there are too many false positives to remove businesses without checking on the ground. -- Andrew From: Gregrs Sent: 21 January 2018

Re: [Talk-GB] New Post Office Data and Comparison Tool

Best not to use the type key for anything other than relation types (such as type=multipolygon). -- Andrew From: Mark Goodge Sent: 19 February 2018 15:33:10 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] New Post Office Data

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

Are you offering to create a map with this level of special cases for every country in the world? I’d love to see the result. -- Andrew From: David Woolley Sent: 04 August 2018 09:55 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

Postal counties (mainly a outer London and Manchester thing in this context) are essentially defunct. -- Andrew From: Martin Wynne Sent: 10 August 2018 13:00:40 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

Imposing strict boundaries on OSM communication channels (in this case a non-ISO3166 meaning for a talk list) is out of order and is not a proper response to any disagreement anyone may have about tagging. -- Andrew From: webmas...@killyfole.org.uk Sent: 28

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

Toby, I really think you need to read through the conversation archived at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2018-August/thread.html and answer the points discussed there. -- Andrew From:

Re: [Talk-GB] Updates to 'Survey Me!' tool

Where I live businesses that are still open sometimes drop out of FHRS. Your mileage may very. -- Andrew From: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) Sent: 23 July 2018 10:52 To: talk-gb Subject: [Talk-GB] Updates to 'Survey Me!' tool A couple of minor updates to my

Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

Does it measure importance sensibly or is it a category only weakly related to importance like the authority that maintains roads? -- Andrew From: Mark Goodge Sent: 07 September 2018 14:51 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Wickham Market,

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

Although Dave’s edits left out Northern Ireland, (https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-gb@openstreetmap.org/msg16162.html) the question of whether similar edits should take place there was left open. -- Andrew From: Brian Prangle Sent: 29 August 2018 13:20 To:

Re: [Talk-GB] New Data in PRoW Comparison Tool

Could we follow the signage for the prow_ref format where the authority puts it on signs? -- Andrew From: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) Sent: 05 July 2018 09:17:10 To: talk-gb Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] New Data in PRoW Comparison Tool On 3 July 2018 at 15:10,

Re: [Talk-GB] Petrol stations again

Are the changes to names specifically being discussed? -- Andrew From: Simon Poole Sent: 09 March 2018 07:46 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Petrol stations again Different area naturally, but at least here the newly

[Talk-GB] Post offices where different services open for different times

The post office at 86 Southampton Row (London) [https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2326348566] has both shop and post office opening times posted in the window. The shop has longer hours (which I tagged opening_hours), the post office has two times listed. The full service is available for a

[Talk-GB] Post offices that have closed

What is a suitable way to identify post offices no longer in use such as http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postoffice/branch/19408 to the maintenance tools? -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] Addressing of flats: review best practice

I have been mapping a complex of flats that consists of a series of blocks each with its own entrance, tagging each section with addr:housename and addr:flats [https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/580234651]. The standard layer repeats the name of the whole block for each section, which I find a

[Talk-GB] Bing maps

I had a look at the Bing map of Richmond this morning. It now has houses on it, or rather it has some of them. The resulting map looks, shall I say, familiar if a bit out of date. -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] Climbing new heights in “interesting” tagging

Road signs tagged natural=peak: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5890628170 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5890628171 -- Andrew

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

Richmond cricket club play in the Middlesex league and Middlesex sometimes play at their Old Deer Park ground[https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/51.46911/-0.29533]. Neighbouring Sheen Park[https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/51.4579/-0.2708] play in both the Middlesex and Surrey leagues.

Re: [Talk-GB] Road name contradictions in the UK

Is this something that could go in Survey Me? -- Andrew From: Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-GB Sent: 22 February 2019 20:47 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Road name contradictions in the UK Hi Everyone, Our Open Maps team

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

Some roads tagged service look like reasonable candidates: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/346182691 [https://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/osm_logo_256-cde84d7490f0863c7a0b0d0a420834ebd467c1214318167d0f9a39f25a44d6bd.png] Way: 346182691 |

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

I am inclined to agree with this though I would distinguish between non-traversable paths that can be mapped with their connections and continuously connected traversable ones that should just have their existence marked on their ways. -- Andrew From: SK53

Re: [Talk-GB] road relations

It is documented at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:associatedStreet , the terracer plugin used to create it a lot but now doesn’t by default. The Germans have been stripping it out of the database recently [ https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=65510 ] and I’d be

Re: [Talk-GB] Missing Captcha when adding event in OSM wiki

Have you tried using the link at the bottom of the page to switch between mobile and desktop view before you edit? -- Andrew From: n...@posteo.net Sent: 27 April 2019 15:19 To: Talk GB Subject: [Talk-GB] Missing Captcha when adding event in OSM wiki Hi I

Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

We can check for properties where the brand:wikidata tag was left behind by checking the other tags, particularly name= and shop=. -- Andrew From: SK53 Sent: 28 September 2019 17:32 To: Silent Spike Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook

[Talk-GB] C roads again

Is there a resource I can point anyone who puts C numbers in the ref tag of roads at? -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

I wonder if Tfondie who created the Wikipedia page may be the same person. -- Andrew From: Andrew Hain Sent: 23 March 2020 20:18 To: Colin Smale Cc: Talk-GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London? There is now a place name Stadium Village just

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding missing roads using Facebook detections

Also seen: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/84550786 -- Andrew From: Chris Fleming Sent: 03 April 2020 14:06 To: Guthula, Jothirnadh Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Adding missing roads using Facebook detections I've spotted some

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

Also changing the name tag for Eel Pie Island. -- Andrew From: Colin Smale Sent: 20 March 2020 17:11 To: Talk-GB Subject: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London? If there is anyone who keeps a weather eye on South-West London, in particular the Twickenham

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

in Twickenham may be legitimate and the department store tagging was by another mapper by an editor preset. -- Andrew From: Colin Smale Sent: 20 March 2020 18:46 To: Andrew Hain Cc: Talk-GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London? On 2020-03-20 19:36, Andrew

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London?

To: Andrew Hain Cc: Talk-GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in South-West London? On 2020-03-20 19:36, Andrew Hain wrote: Also changing the name tag for Eel Pie Island. Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed. I changed that one back, and left comments on a couple of other changes, but when I

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

Keep Right flags web links that have gone offline. -- Andrew From: Philip Barnes Sent: 27 September 2020 18:49 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites On Sun,

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN & USRN Tagging

If there are more than 19 UPRNs for the same building the reference will be longer than OSM’s tag value limit of 255 characters. -- Andrew From: Tony OSM Sent: 03 July 2020 15:31 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] UPRN & USRN Tagging As we have

[Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

I have been doing some tidying based on Osmose, including the warning for highway=footway foot=yes, which is often left over from a preset in Potlatch 1. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87672607 I got a changeset comment querying the edit. * I note you have removed foot=yes

Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release

A lightning talk could get some attention, including mappers with experience of datasets elsewhere in the world. -- Andrew From: Rob Nickerson Sent: 26 June 2020 20:49 To: Talk-GB Subject: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release Hi all,

Re: [Talk-GB] Removing all stiles from bridleways

What distinction would you make between this and the cycle route over steps that was discussed recently or the signposted cycle route past cycle barriers in Barnes, London? -- Andrew From: Richard Fairhurst Sent: 14 December 2020 20:57 To: talk-gb OSM List