Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 171, Issue 52

my locality that are incorrect. From: Richard Fairhurst To: "talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Removing all stiles from bridleways Neil Matthews wrote:  Looks like there's been an attempt to remove all stiles from bridleways Um, no there hasn't? The changeset you'

[Talk-GB] Removing all stiles from bridleways

Looks like there's been an attempt to remove all stiles from bridleways -- pretty sure I've seen this done in other edits -- agree that they're a potential anomaly but should they really be a mechanical edit (even if by hand)? See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95739504 Cheers, Neil

[Talk-GB] Lorries can't limbo

https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/network-rail-reveals-most-bashed-bridge-in-britain-09-11-2020/ Saw this and thought it might suit a small virtual project - to check/add bridge heights from mapillary images or similar might be useful. And maybe network rail have a longer list / more

[Talk-GB] Colouring London?

Is https://colouring.london/ well known? Just stumbled onto it from an overly general web search. Looks like it would be a great fit for OSM -- but seems to be using Ordnance Survey? Cheers, Neil ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] Cheers Drive, Bristol

Local coverage: https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/there-is-a-new-road-in-speedwell-called-cheers-drive/ Looks like housenumbers have the road name, even if roadsigns aren't installed. Cheers, Neil ___ Talk-GB mailing list

[Talk-GB] Presumed Vandalism

See edits by https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jackgeo123 Cheers, Neil ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

n't matter. When I make the edits I can look > at the history of the node, and if a mapper has changed the name semi > recently I will not change it but rather add a "fixme" describing the > issue. > > Thanks, > Cj > > On Sat, 2020-01-18 at 15:01 +, Neil Matthews wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Update bus stop names

No, please don't update mismatched bus stop names "blindly". I've surveyed a lot locally and have updated them to the newest values from paper timetables -- which have newer names than on metal signage. They also match the names that the local council have used when updating OSM. A lot of names

Re: [Talk-GB] Motorway junctions where the slow lane seperates from the through lanes

This is a changeset that is under discussion: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79260663#map=16/51.5089/-2.5232 The disagreement is that there may be the start of an "exit lane", but there is no physical separation where the junction has now been modified -- see the changeset dicsussion for

[Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

In light of some recent edits in South Gloucestershire -- is it ok to import unsurveyed footpaths based simply on rowmaps data? Thanks, Neil ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] road relations

Not a fan -- for the more prosaic issue of what happens when you split the street -- I don't think any of the editors will automatically reassign the buildings. Neil On 01/06/2019 11:24, Andrew Hain wrote: > It is documented at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:associatedStreet >

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bridge Gunnislake

Add a note on the main OSM site - maybe with expected finish date of road works -- might help as a reminder. Cheers, Neil On 03/04/2019 20:38, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: > There is also the temporary affix: > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Measuring building height

So, I just tried this and I think it has a reasonable chance of giving a reasonable result. Take a photo of a car outside the building. Measure number of pixels for the car and number of pixels for the building and the height can be approximated by:     building_pixels / car_pixels *

Re: [Talk-GB] Invalid building levels and building (part) height license compatibility

Thanks for the DEFRA link - has some potential :-) The first issue I was raising was that for convenience some (commercial) OSM mappers were using a value like 0.75 per building level (or something similar) so that their rendering software could deal directly with OSM data without post-processing

[Talk-GB] Invalid building levels and building (part) height license compatibility

Anyone mapping in Manchester might want to take a look for strange fractional building:levels. It's possible that some commercial editors found that they got better results with open source 3D renderers by using ~0.75 per building level, rather than the documented value of 1. We recently had a

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Mobility Stockport

Bath Hacked (on meetup) might be useful to contact -- they organised a round-table to consider main issues for accessibility in Bath, e.g. https://www.meetup.com/Bath-Hacked/events/237213318/ before several sesssions surveying and adding items to Openwheelmap. Cheers, Neil

Re: [Talk-GB] Changing highway=ford to ford=yes.

Presumably only those ways that have a consistent highway value for ways joined at both ends? If there's a different highway value at ways joined at each end, then you should at minimum add a fixme to the ford section, or a note for local mappers to check? Cheers, Neil On 05/01/2019 20:49,

Re: [Talk-GB] Changing wikipedia links

Thanks for the info gents - I see more information has finally been added to the wiki - albeit a year after discussion on imports :-) Cheers, Neil On 02/10/2018 08:09, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: > On 01/10/2018 23:39, Dan S wrote: >> Op ma 1 okt. 2018 om 23:15 schreef Neil Matthews :

[Talk-GB] Changing wikipedia links

Looks like an automated edit - albeit a human curated one - without discussion, certainly on Talk-GB. Seems to be moving wikipedia links for branded stores to brand:wikipedia, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/63071623 My concern is  changing the behaviour of a well-known tag

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

> If there are tertiary ways that don't meet the above criteria they > should be listed in some form of text file for individual editing if > appropriate. Where does this text file live? Better to add notes to the map / fixmes to the data. Neil ___

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

*If* there are used for looking up addresses, then there is some very slight advantage to having them -- I still occasionally see websites/people referring to Avon :-) Neil On 26/08/2018 23:49, Dave F wrote: > Hi > > To repeat, They do exist, but only as a record of old data, not > current.

Re: [Talk-GB] Bartholomews, Brighton

Maybe add a note on both Bartholemews / Avenue and perhaps an alt_name="Bartholemews Avenue" on both too (doesn't seem like something that would easily be reconstructed by Nominatim)? Neil On 26/07/2018 17:11, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > On 26/07/2018 16:39, Martin Wynne wrote: >>   > And, since

Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us

previous_name isn't documented -- and seems a bad idea. It's unlikely to be searchable with Nominatim, and won't be rendered. This is the scheme some of us are using in Bristol https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Bristol#Lifecycle. In an ideal world (!) I'd say use something

Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us

On 05/05/2018 16:36, Andy Townsend wrote: > Indeed  - and in the case of named stores (open or shut) which act as > landmarks, there are at least some people (including me) actually > consuming that data.  Please don't remove a name until it really has > been removed. +1 -- helps me mapping too,

[Talk-GB] Youth Hostels are being renamed

Looks like a lot of the UK Youth Hostels are being renamed, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57638893 Changeset comment is: "I'm in the process of standardizing the naming of Youth Hostels in England and Wales to use the names given by the yha.org.uk website." Copyrighted source?

[Talk-GB] Geospatial User Workshop - Bristol

One for those in the south-west: "Following the announcement that the UK government intends to form a Geospatial Commission, the Cabinet Office are currently exploring how to open up freely the OS MasterMap data to UK-based small businesses in particular. The cross-government team, led by

[Talk-GB] Armchair mapper changing oneway constraints?

Might be useful to check your area for user Benitoto changing oneway constraints: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Benitoto. This looks like an armchair / geometry exercise -- rather than just adding notes to request local mappers to (re)survey them. I think some of the issues may be due to

[Talk-GB] Bing imagery round Bristol

I think Bing imagery round Bristol has been updated (I can see new Metrobus works) but at it's highest level it has lost the brightness and clarity I used to enjoy. A quick check in Bath / London and quality seems as before. Presume that there's no way of changing any settings/caches to access

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

I've tried Mapillary -- not tried OpenStreetCam yet. Comments mostly relate to the Mapillary Android app: * Mapillary App drove me nuts until I worked out how to take photos individually when walking, rather than as a continuous sequence - more car oriented? * Seems to be moderately

Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

On 31/07/2017 21:18, Dave F wrote: > Hi >> >> Follow the wiki and tag the building -- unless the museum exhibits >> are in the grounds, e.g. https://museum.wales/stfagans/ >> > Are you referring specifically to the museum wiki page? I suspect this > has been written by someone who's understanding

Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

Follow the wiki and tag the building -- unless the museum exhibits are in the grounds, e.g. https://museum.wales/stfagans/ Keep the address on the building or one of its entrances. Add a relevant landuse -- if required. Neil On 31/07/2017 17:23, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Hi all, > > Could I have

[Talk-GB] Mapping archaeology in towns

I've recently noticed a lot of "historic" edits in Bath by user SNLA (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SNLA). There's been some discussion on the changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/49401905 What's the prevailing thought process on mapping mostly obliterated historic buildings -

Re: [Talk-GB] Import Progress

On 21/03/2017 11:20, Andy Allan wrote (more than this): I feel this is a politely phrased way of saying "we will continue to ignore everyone and carry on what we're doing already". Thanks, Andy My take from previous mails is that all you need to do to import data now is go to the pub and

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

ottom of each district page that don't match with the FHRS database). Thanks, Greg. On 02/10/16 22:19, Neil Matthews wrote: 1.We have a great tool <http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/>developed some time ago by gregrs, whose work we should really recognise by making use of i

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

> 1.We have a great tool developed some time ago by gregrs, whose work we should really recognise by making use of it. Tool looks good, but is there any way to get a feature request: to identify items in the fhrs data that don't match to OSM in a

[Talk-GB] Definitive map edits

Anyone know whether "definitive maps" are suitable as sources for OSM? I'm seeing a lot of edits today by the same author that have comments about "the definitive map", e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37850221 There are URLs for the source, but they don't seem to be valid?

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

I'd argue all approaches can be considered correct from the wiki: "Add a node at the centre of the pub and add amenity=pub to it. ... If the whole building is used for this feature and its footprint is present in OSM, you can apply the tags on the area if you prefer." Area obviously applies to

Re: [Talk-GB] Pubs as areas: should be map the property or the building?

It's not my preferred style -- I prefer to draw the building and tag that. I'd expect to put the name and address on the building too! If I tag a large area, then there's a high likelihood that it'll adversely affect routing. Conversely tagging large areas makes the map look more complete.

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland

Had a look at Bristol -- seems fine... ...except: Q4968836 — Bristol Castle — 2 matches found @ Bristol Sometimes known as "At Bristol" -- a science-themed museum/attraction -- an odd match to a ruined castle? Cheers, Neil On 10/03/2016 17:57, Edward Betts wrote: I've extended my

Re: [Talk-GB] [Imports] OSM with Wikidata: 27232 matches found in England

I had a look at your Bristol matches -- most are reasonable, a few issues: Q5015771 — Cabot Circus — Cabot Circus (way, distance: 165 m) building=yes Matched to parking not the shopping area -- OSM updated, was a suburb place University of Bristol one of three matches is to operator

Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham New Street station re-opens

I want to flag up a couple of "historical edits" in Bristol: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34126960 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34147883 it might be wise to check other edits from this user. Many thanks, Neil (ndm) P.S. Unfortunately, the "whodidit" service isn't operating

[Talk-GB] Disclaimer

Do we need an OSM disclaimer -- I've just had a mail from a gentleman enquiring why an underground powerline http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/127968407/history#map=17/51.50283/-2.55462 was drawn on OSM -- as he didn't want to buy a house on top of it and Western Power told him the powerline