[Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK
We are planning to give the UK administrative wiki pages a bit of a spring clean which are all a bit random, not very well linked and contain quite a lot of duplicated content and some very out-of-date content. The plan is as follows: Firstly we will create wiki pages for the English and welsh counties that don't already have one (not many missing actually). We will then go through all the country pages and get them into a similar format with a live map at the top and a 'place' list down the right hand side. If there are articles for towns and districts within the county we will link to these from the county page. We will create an England page and move the list of English Counties to this page from the UK page We will create a Wales page (there isn't one yet!) and link it to the counties in Wales which we will create if necessary. We will move any information about towns from the UK page to the relevant country page We will then shrink the UK page down to a list of national projects (motorways/cycle routes, A roads etc) and then a list of pages for the parts of the UK (England,Wales,Scotland N.Ireland). The general format we will be using for county pages will be the one used for Suffolk, however we will not dump any current information from existing County pages, we will just move it down the page. Anything blatantly out-of-date will be removed. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Suffolk Any thoughts? Please say now if you disagree with any of the above. When I say we, it is because I and JossSmithson (who works for ITO) will be doing the work between us. If anyone else wants to do any of this then please join in. Regards, Peter ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK
On 09/03/2009 12:04, Peter Miller wrote: We are planning to give the UK administrative wiki pages a bit of a spring clean which are all a bit random, not very well linked and contain quite a lot of duplicated content and some very out-of-date content. Quite a lot of the Cambs/West Suffolk stuff is organised by District at the moment (though I perhaps mistakenly conflated Cambridge and South Cambridgeshire, and e.g. the East Cambs page is actually named Ely). District is a bit more manageable a unit than County I think. I like the idea of a coherent organisation by County, but an extra level may well help IMO, for very active areas like the east of England. David ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK
On 9 Mar 2009, at 12:12, David Earl wrote: On 09/03/2009 12:04, Peter Miller wrote: We are planning to give the UK administrative wiki pages a bit of a spring clean which are all a bit random, not very well linked and contain quite a lot of duplicated content and some very out-of- date content. Quite a lot of the Cambs/West Suffolk stuff is organised by District at the moment (though I perhaps mistakenly conflated Cambridge and South Cambridgeshire, and e.g. the East Cambs page is actually named Ely). District is a bit more manageable a unit than County I think. I like the idea of a coherent organisation by County, but an extra level may well help IMO, for very active areas like the east of England. I fully agree that most of the detail will be at the district level and I did do a bunch of work sorting Cambs into a hierarchy like that some time ago. I think the district structure for Cambs should be good now. All we are proposing at present is to sort out the UK page, create both England and Wales pages and then complete the English and Welsh county pages - any more than that would be taking too long. It does make sense to then build on this with districts/boroughs for the detail however we will be leaving that to the locals to sort out! Regards, Peter David ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK
David replied to Peter:
Quite a lot of the Cambs/West Suffolk stuff is organised by
District at
the moment (though I perhaps mistakenly conflated Cambridge and
South
Cambridgeshire, and e.g. the East Cambs page is actually named
Ely).
District is a bit more manageable a unit than County I think.
I like the idea of a coherent organisation by County, but an
extra level
may well help IMO, for very active areas like the east of
England.
I've also listed the separate districts on the Essex page (including
Unitary Authorities that are part of the ceremonial county of
Essex).
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Essex
Some time ago, when I was playing, I added the Towns in Essex
section to that page based on a Wikipedia template (my version of
which is at {{User:EdLoach/Essex}}). This lists the Unitary
Authorities and Districts at the top and towns underneath. On each
district page I then list the towns in that district AND any
villages with their own page (which I felt may become too numerous
to be on the county page). If anyone checks in any detail, the towns
on that template section probably don't match those listed in each
district as I've done quite a lot of research since making the
template to work out which areas are towns, which are postal towns
but now suburbs of larger areas, and which aren't either. I think
therefore that the towns listed on each district page are probably
more correct than those in the template (though some places are
perhaps open to debate). Since then I've tended to concentrate on
the district page where I live.
The Essex page was originally based on the Suffolk page, so should
be fairly easy for you to update if need be.
Ed
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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK
On 9 Mar 2009, at 13:06, Ed Loach wrote: r. I think therefore that the towns listed on each district page are probably more correct than those in the template (though some places are perhaps open to debate). Since then I've tended to concentrate on the district page where I live. The Essex page was originally based on the Suffolk page, so should be fairly easy for you to update if need be. Agreed. I have now moved all the towns from the Suffolk page to the relevant District page. For our 'first pass' we will concentrate on the county level and leave others to do the district level as they see fit. Regards, Peter Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK
There is plenty left to do, but I hope people are happy with what we have being doing so far. Would it make more sense for http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/England to redirect to WikiProject_England now instead of WikiProject_United_Kingdom? If so then it can be easily updated at this link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Englandaction=edit Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK
On 9 Mar 2009, at 15:36, Ed Loach wrote: There is plenty left to do, but I hope people are happy with what we have being doing so far. Would it make more sense for http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/England to redirect to WikiProject_England now instead of WikiProject_United_Kingdom? If so then it can be easily updated at this link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Englandaction=edit Done. thanks Peter Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
