Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 11:19 +, SomeoneElse wrote: > SomeoneElse wrote: > > > > I'm planning to remove names that I can't find evidence for > > I think that it's clear from the replies to this that the general > concensus is in favour of not having these as names. I'll get on with > updating

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-21 Thread SomeoneElse
SomeoneElse wrote: I'm planning to remove names that I can't find evidence for I think that it's clear from the replies to this that the general concensus is in favour of not having these as names. I'll get on with updating the road, in each case moving the previous "name" to "description".

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Andrew
Richard Fairhurst writes: > > Philip Barnes wrote: > > I did briefly discuss this with Andy on IRC and the other issue is > > the insertion of soft-hyphens into the names so Hatton becomes > > Hat-ton. Not sure why, is he trying to make a satnav pronounce > > each syllable? > > Or copie

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 15:01 +0100, Colin Smale wrote: > Aha, it's Mauls is it... He is indeed very prolific, and adds a lot of > missing details across the whole planet. However he never seems to > disclose his sources, either in the source tag or in changeset > comments. > I have spotted that Mau

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 21:14, "Chris Hill" wrote: > > ...He copied data from a local newspaper article to name a road wrongly... Mauls might be wrong in this case but the name of a road in the local paper isn't copyrighted. It's a basic fact, the newspaper didn't create it and they certainly don't own it

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/02/13 20:15, Kevin Peat wrote: On 20 Feb 2013 19:38, "Dudley Ibbett" > wrote: > > ...I certainly wouldn't defend his attitude... > I don't know Mauls from Adam but how would you feel if you had been contributing to the project for five years and someone

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 19:38, "Dudley Ibbett" wrote: > > ...I certainly wouldn't defend his attitude... > I don't know Mauls from Adam but how would you feel if you had been contributing to the project for five years and someone you'd never heard of sent you an unfriendly message threatening a ban for ad

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Dudley Ibbett
...@xs4all.nl To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere) Aha, it's Mauls is it... He is indeed very prolific, and adds a lot of missing details across the whole planet. However he never seems to disclose his sources, either in the so

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Colin Smale
ne else not necessarily user "SomeoneElse") can talk sense to him. > > John > > > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 03:42:03 -0800 >> From: rich...@systemed.net >> To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and e

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread John Baker
not necessarily user "SomeoneElse") can talk sense to him. John > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 03:42:03 -0800 > From: rich...@systemed.net > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere) > > Philip Barnes wrote: &g

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Philip Barnes wrote: > I did briefly discuss this with Andy on IRC and the other issue is > the insertion of soft-hyphens into the names so Hatton becomes > Hat-ton. Not sure why, is he trying to make a satnav pronounce > each syllable? Or copied and pasted from a document? cheers Richard

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread SomeoneElse
Chris Hill wrote: How did the mapper get this info? What licence is it under? FoI for example is copyright and so still needs to be released under a suitable licence. AFAIK local authorities are responsible for naming roads not the DfT. (from OSM messages from the original mapper following my

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
org.uk; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:48:53 + Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere) The user looks like a troll. None of his/her/bot changesets have any comments. And they bounce all over the world I think he deleted the or

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread colin
, so I added this to OSM. I take it there are no name signs for Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass? Colin in Bingley - Original Message - From: "Chris Hill" To:"John Baker" , Cc: Sent:Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:26:44 + Subject:Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along th

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Hill
revert the changes and >look at getting you banned. > > >Cheers, > > >John" > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:11:53 + >> From: li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk >> To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: [Talk-GB] "road names&qu

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Roger Calvert
'description' might be an appropriate tag - after all that is what the phrase "Foston Hat­ton Hilton Bypass" actually is. Roger On 20/02/2013 08:30, Richard Mann wrote: I'd use alt_name. At least it's an established place to look for "alternative" stuff. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Ric

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Richard Mann
I'd use alt_name. At least it's an established place to look for "alternative" stuff. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Rovastar wrote: > > "Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass", etc don't as far I I know appear on > > the ground however I think the some record should appear

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rovastar wrote: > "Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass", etc don't as far I I know appear on > the ground however I think the some record should appear in > OSM. I am worried about the trend in this case of placing them > as the "name" of the road as what reference point would people > use for these

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-19 Thread John Baker
rg Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:48:53 +0000 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere) The user looks like a troll. None of his/her/bot changesets have any comments. And they bounce all over the world. I think he deleted the original roads on the 21 jan 2013 as

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-18 Thread John Baker
n you explain what you are doing before we revert the changes and look at getting you banned. Cheers, John" > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:11:53 + > From: li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk > To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and

[Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-18 Thread SomeoneElse
Recently various sections along the A50 between Derby and Stoke have grown names, for example here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/202232245/history I've driven along that section of road many times, and I don't believe I've seen a name on any of the new sections. According to Music