Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright and MAPS.ME android 6.2.5-Google

2016-10-04 Thread Andy Townsend
As I understand it, MAPS.ME locations are taken from the phone's location. The "Google" in the created_by tag just means the Android version of MAPS.ME‎. The actual location comes from the phone - obtained as I understand it in recent versions via Google Play Services*. Whether that's

[Talk-GB] Copyright and MAPS.ME android 6.2.5-Google

2016-10-04 Thread ael
I have just found a local cafe added to OSM by "MAPS.ME android 6.2.5-Google", at least that was the "created by" tag. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41346334#map=19/51.78621/-1.48443 The mention of Google suggested that Google maps might have been used, although I suspect it just means

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright and MAPS.ME android 6.2.5-Google

2016-10-04 Thread ael
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:49:32PM +0100, ael wrote: > I have just found a local cafe added to OSM by "MAPS.ME android 6.2.5-Google", > at least that was the "created by" tag. I think that I may now have answered my own question. Digging into the Knowledge base on the app website, it does look as

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright and MAPS.ME android 6.2.5-Google

2016-10-04 Thread Philip Barnes
Maps.me is fine, as you suspect the google just means the app is from the play store, they were at SOTM. Phil (trigpoint) On Tue Oct 4 20:53:58 2016 GMT+0100, ael wrote: > On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:49:32PM +0100, ael wrote: > > I have just found a local cafe added to OSM by "MAPS.ME android >

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-04 Thread Greg
Hi Neil, I've added a couple of feature requests for you here: https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/issues If anyone else would like to suggest features or report bugs, please do visit the link above. I don't have time at the moment to improve the code much, but it would be good to have

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

2016-10-04 Thread Greg
In case it's useful for tracking, you can get the full list of tags used by my comparison tool at the link below. The tool downloads nodes/ways with those tags and any nodes/ways with an fhrs:id tag set. https://github.com/gregrs-uk/python-fhrs-osm/blob/master/filter-osm.sh#L5-L13 Thanks, Greg

Re: [Talk-GB] Autumn Quarterly Project

2016-10-04 Thread Greg
Just to say that I have increased the number of OSM tags used by my comparison tool (http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/) so you may see a sudden change in statistics for each district when the update script is run tonight. (The tool compares the FHRS data with any nodes/ways with an

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright and MAPS.ME android 6.2.5-Google

2016-10-04 Thread David Woolley
On 04/10/16 21:03, Andy Townsend wrote: obtained as I understand it in recent versions via Google Play Services*. Whether that's compatible with OSM You would need to disable the use of wifi SSIDs (and cell site locations) to make it legitimate. That assumes it doesn't snap to Google maps

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright and MAPS.ME android 6.2.5-Google

2016-10-04 Thread Andy Townsend
For completeness, what you get with Apple (at least up to 9.3) is essentially what you ask for. You specify the use case, so if you ask for "real time location tracking" that's what you get. There are "snap to road" options, but if you don't ask for that when setting up the sort of locations

Re: [Talk-GB] No FHRS data on a food establishment

2016-10-04 Thread SK53
As I say this varies from council to council. One case which came up on this list a while back was an event facility in North London often used for wedding feasts. I actually queried why this wasn't listed on FHRS with the, as it turned out, wrong, local authority. It was definitely someone

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes

2016-10-04 Thread SK53
Dealing with postcodes is done by Nominatim. Perhaps people might like to consider contributing to the code base to make this possible (see for instance ). The Irish community run their own Nominatim instance which: a) is easier to maintain as the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes

2016-10-04 Thread Paul Berry
In the light of recent talk about postcode coverage, I've started mapping with postal_code the highways that front groups of buildings known to have the same postcode. However, that's in turn led me to notice that OSM still uses NPEMap as a reference for postcode searches. Given that NPEMap

Re: [Talk-GB] No FHRS data on a food establishment

2016-10-04 Thread Jez Nicholson
I think that feeding back should be one of the aims. how about 1. enable linking and geovisualisation of the FHRS dataset by developers through tagging OSM objects with fhrs ids 2. increase the number of postcoded locations as a by-product of matching to the FHRS dataset 3. feed back

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes

2016-10-04 Thread Paul Berry
> Dealing with postcodes is done by Nominatim. Perhaps people might like to consider contributing to the code base to make this possible (see for instance ). Thanks for the pointer. I didn't realise it was an open issue with them. Regards, *Paul*

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

2016-10-04 Thread SK53
External links of all kinds can die; but for me the issue is that external addresses make life difficult for data consumers. J On 4 October 2016 at 16:05, Dave F wrote: > Horses for courses. I map what I'm interested in, which maybe considered > selfish by some,

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

2016-10-04 Thread Dan S
Hi, "Horses for courses" is certainly correct - but let me comment: please don't rely on website=* as a way for people to get hold of further info. Even if the establishment continues to exist, many small places have websites that vanish, or are stolen, or are full of incorrect info. I've

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

2016-10-04 Thread Dave F
On 04/10/2016 16:15, Dan S wrote: Hi, "Horses for courses" is certainly correct - but let me comment: please don't rely on website=* as a way for people to get hold of further info. Even if the establishment continues to exist, many small places have websites that vanish, or are stolen, or are

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project - taginfo tracker

2016-10-04 Thread Dave F
Horses for courses. I map what I'm interested in, which maybe considered selfish by some, but it still adds relevant data. Websites provide current data on establishment. Surely, by your logic, churn will also mean the names of establishment will disappear? Comparing a newly issued fhrs