Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte Openstreetmap

[Cyrille37 OSM]

Le 29/06/2020 à 07:14, André Laurenti a écrit :

Je voudrais savoir s'il est possible de télécharger d'autres icônes


Sur le wiki aussi: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:UMap/Guide/Personnaliser_l%27ic%C3%B4ne_d%27un_marqueur


Cyrille37.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte Openstreetmap

[Cyrille37 OSM]

Bonjour,

Une réponse est donnée dans le forum : 
https://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewtopic.php?t=7379


Bonne carto

Cyrille37.

Le 29/06/2020 à 07:14, André Laurenti a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je suis en train de réaliser une carte sur le tremblement de terre 
historique de 1887 sur la Riviera française et italienne. Pour 
l'heure, je redéfinie les intensités du séisme pour chaque localité en 
utilisant l'échelle d'intensité européenne EMS 98.


http://u.osmfr.org/m/469058/

Je souhaiterais également reporter les informations complémentaires 
sur le tsunami observé. Toutefois les icônes de la bibliothèque ne me 
conviennent pas. Je voudrais savoir s'il est possible de télécharger 
d'autres icônes comme par exemple celle en pièce jointe. Si oui quelle 
est la procédure.


Merci pour vos réponses

André Laurenti


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Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto query overpass-turbo

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Ciao,

a quanto ho capito, geocodeArea va a cercare tramite Nominatim e viene 
considerata solo la prima corrispondenza, in questo caso l'area 
residenziale: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2196897


Se usi

area[name=Castelnuovo][admin_level=8]->.searchArea;

va a cercarti il confine comunale 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/46713


La query che ti serve dovrebbe essere questa: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Vyu

Ale


On 29/06/20 02:03, Alessandro Vitali wrote:

Ciao,

io parto con questa query (http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Vyn) che mi 
permette di estrarre gli indirizzi nell'area di Castelnuovo.
Quando però verifico l'estrazione noto che non ha estratto tutti gli 
indirizzi contenuti nel confine comunale ma solo quelli contenuti nel 
multipoligono landuse:residential.


Come posso fare per estendere l'area di ricerca ai confini comunali?

Grazie!
Ale Vit

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Alternatives à Mapillary

[Tyndare]

Le June 28, 2020 8:14:03 PM UTC, "Frédéric Rodrigo"  a 
écrit :
>Le 22/06/2020 à 22:59, Tyndare a écrit :
>>https://averdones.github.io/real-time-semantic-image-segmentation-with-deeplab-in-tensorflow/
>
>Tu as un script/outil prêt à l’emploi pour faire ça ?

J'ai un script python pour flouter les personnes en téléchargeant et lançant le 
réseau que j'ai mentionné mais il faut que je le nettoie (il est codé en dur 
pour la taille de mes photos).
J'essaye de le partager ce soir.



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[OSM-talk-fr] Carte Openstreetmap

[André Laurenti]

Bonjour,

Je suis en train de réaliser une carte sur le tremblement de terre 
historique de 1887 sur la Riviera française et italienne. Pour l'heure, 
je redéfinie les intensités du séisme pour chaque localité en utilisant 
l'échelle d'intensité européenne EMS 98.


http://u.osmfr.org/m/469058/

Je souhaiterais également reporter les informations complémentaires sur 
le tsunami observé. Toutefois les icônes de la bibliothèque ne me 
conviennent pas. Je voudrais savoir s'il est possible de télécharger 
d'autres icônes comme par exemple celle en pièce jointe. Si oui quelle 
est la procédure.


Merci pour vos réponses

André Laurenti

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Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

[Marc Gemis]

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 10:48 PM Mark Wagner  wrote:

> Distributed storage is one of those things that sounds good, but
> nobody's figured out how to make it actually work well.

I also wonder about privacy and security in a distributed system. Will
the distributed system only contain the blurred images? What about the
original images, will they be spread over the world, to servers ran by
unknown people, organizations, governments? Will that be an
improvement over having them owned by Facebook?

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[talk-ph] Access tags again

[Jherome Miguel]

I'm slowly getting the hang of this, but I think we better discuss when to
use access=private or destination. I'm planning to change the access
section of our mapping conventions, including removing schadow1's personal
(and now-dated and undiscussed) recommendation to add access tags only on
barrier nodes and not on ways due to routes unable to used them.

Having read the def of access=private, I see that roads where a sticker,
pass, or other form of authorization is required for access (like in gated
subdivisions, military/police camps), falls under that definition, but I
still have open questions, listed below.

*What about deliveries? Visitors?
*What if road has entrances for those not holding stickers/vehicle passes
and those who have (e.g. large gated subdivisions, PEZA-registered
industrial parks)? I'm thinking about access=destination or
access=permissive especially for the latter, since some have
mall/commercial area/hotel within them, e.g. Carmelray 2, FPIP, LIMA.
*Overlapping access restrictions (e.g. gated subdivision accessible only
from larger subdivision/industrial park)
*Toll for outside vehicles/access allowed for outside vehicles with
conditions:  access=permissive (plus known conditions) or toll=yes, or both?


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[Talk-it] Aiuto query overpass-turbo

[Alessandro Vitali]

Ciao,

io parto con questa query (http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Vyn) che mi permette
di estrarre gli indirizzi nell'area di Castelnuovo.
Quando però verifico l'estrazione noto che non ha estratto tutti gli
indirizzi contenuti nel confine comunale ma solo quelli contenuti nel
multipoligono landuse:residential.

Come posso fare per estendere l'area di ricerca ai confini comunali?

Grazie!
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Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

[Mark Wagner]

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:01:57 +0200
"Marc M."  wrote:

> Le 26.06.20 à 14:09, Florian Lohoff a écrit :
> >> I don't care about SLA. Does OSM have SLA?  
> > The point is when you distribute your storage to people at
> > home we will have at most 10% of images online all the time.  
> 
> what facts are you basing that number on ?
> The worst internet connection I have has 98% availability.
> of course, it's not mandatory to have a pay-per-use dialup :)
> not to mention local chapters or companies with servers in datacenters
> or with fiber connection (where 2 instances of the PoC are running
> right now).
> 
> > Disregarding the case that upstream bandwidth internationally
> > is pretty bad so you tend to have access times
> > for images of about 4-5 seconds at best. (3MByte image at
> > a typical ADSL upstream with 1.5MBit/s and international latencys)  
> 
> your logic does not correspond to a distributed storage.
> it is not "one disk that sends one photo to one user"
> it is the pool that sends the pool of requests to all users.
> if you have 1000 adsl to serve 100 simultaneous requests,
> this is the equivalent of 15Mb/s par request (minus the management).
> I leave it up to you to imagine an order of magnitude for the
> conversion between simultaneous requests and users.

The only distributed data store I'm aware of with an actual
implementation is Freenet.  Freenet exhibits classic long-tail
behavior: popular data has high (>99%) availability with rapid
transfers, while the vast majority of data objects exist only as
references from other objects, and on the rare instances where they're
still in the data store, transfer times are measured in minutes.

If you treat a Bittorent index as a distributed data store, you see the
same pattern: a few popular torrents have hundreds or thousands of seeds
and download as fast as your connection can handle, while the majority
have, at best, one seeder, and many only have one or two users with
partial copies, hanging around in hopes that someone will eventually
show up with the remaining pieces.

In the context of a street-level photography system, distributed
storage means that you'll have no trouble downloading images of Old
Faithful or the Eiffel Tower, but you'll be lucky if you can get even
one photo of Road 783 in central Nebraska.

Distributed storage is one of those things that sounds good, but
nobody's figured out how to make it actually work well.

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Mark

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] wijzigingenset

[Pieter Vander Vennet]

Hey Guy,

Geen nood, vergissen is menselijk.

Je hebt in JOSM het volledige pad idd versleept, ik heb het geselecteerd
en terug naar zijn oorspronkelijke beding geschoven. Schade ongedaan
gemaakt dus!
Bedankt om het zo eerlijk te melden en om hulp te vragen ook.

Mvg, Pieter

On 28.06.20 22:17, Guy Vanvuchelen wrote:
>
> Hallo,
>
>  
>
> Zojuist merk ik een fout in mijn eigen wijzigingenset:
>
>  
>
> 21 dagen geleden bewerkt door GuyVV
> 
>
> Versie #14 · Wijzigingenset #86309285
> 
>
>  
>
> Waarschijnlijk heb ik bij het verschuiven van de kaart twee (of meer)
> nodes versleept. Ik zie niet goed in hoe ik dat kan rechtzetten.
>
> Misschien moet de hele wijzigingenset ongedaan gemaakt worden maar ik
> weet ook niet hoe dat moet.
>
> Kan iemand me helpen of desnoods de hele set ongedaan maken.
>
>  
>
> Grt
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>
> Guy Vanvuchelen
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[OSM-talk-be] wijzigingenset

[Guy Vanvuchelen]

Hallo,

 

Zojuist merk ik een fout in mijn eigen wijzigingenset:

 

21 dagen geleden bewerkt door  
GuyVV

Versie #14 . Wijzigingenset #
 86309285

 

Waarschijnlijk heb ik bij het verschuiven van de kaart twee (of meer) nodes
versleept. Ik zie niet goed in hoe ik dat kan rechtzetten.

Misschien moet de hele wijzigingenset ongedaan gemaakt worden maar ik weet
ook niet hoe dat moet.

Kan iemand me helpen of desnoods de hele set ongedaan maken.

 

Grt

 

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Alternatives à Mapillary

[Frédéric Rodrigo]

Le 22/06/2020 à 22:59, Tyndare a écrit :



Le 22/06/2020 à 10:29, Stéphane Péneau a écrit :

Dans tous ces cas, il manque au moins le floutage, le nerf de la guerre


Ce qu'il faut c'est une bonne base d'exemples pour entraîner un algo 
d’apprentissage.
Aurais-t-on le droit de récupérer à là fois la version d'origine et la 
version floutée de nos images envoyé sur Mapillary pour pouvoir s'en 
servir pour entraîner un algo ?



Perso je trouve que flouter le visage n'est pas suffisant pour le 
respect de la vie privée, Facebook se vente d'être capable de 
reconnaître les gens à leur démarche, même de dos.


J'ai testé le modèle préentrainé suivant pour flouter les personnes en 
entier des images que j'envoie sur Mapillary et je trouve que ça 
marche assez bien même si ce n'est pas parfait:


https://averdones.github.io/real-time-semantic-image-segmentation-with-deeplab-in-tensorflow/ 




https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/kuSWiUlfKHrqJ_7lHgn4Ug



J'ai testé quelques outils prêt à l'emploi de détection des visages, et 
je n'ai rien trouvé de suffisant bon pour notre cas d'usage.

Tu as un script/outil prêt à l’emploi pour faire ça ?

Frédéric.



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Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

[Mark Goodge]

On 28/06/2020 15:12, Dave Love wrote:

On Sun, 2020-06-28 at 13:37 +0100, Mark Goodge wrote:


On 28/06/2020 12:18, Dave Love wrote:

On Sun, 2020-06-28 at 09:33 +0100, Robert Skedgell wrote:

Is it mapped or does it appear to be redacted on NLS's out-of-
copyright
OS maps?


Yes, for NLS and current OS displayed by MAGIC.


Is that yes, it's mapped, or yes, it's redacted?


Sorry, it's mapped.  I don't recall ever seeing anything redacted on an
OS map, but I don't remember when and what navigation we used on a
North York Moors walk.


In that case, the next question is, is it visible, either from a ground 
survey or from the overhead imagery?


If the answer is yes, then map it. You can then use your local knowledge 
to name it.


Stuff isn't generally redacted on OS maps these days, although it was, 
once. There's an interesting disconnect on the New Popular Edition here, 
where one sheet was produced while Lakenheath Airbase was still redacted 
but the neighbouring sheet was produced after it ceased to be:


http://www.npemap.org.uk/tiles/map.html#191,94,2

You can see it on the 1:10,560 maps of 1949-1969 on NLS as well:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14=52.41301=0.56200=193=3

Although the 7th Series had the road diversion and gave a name for the 
airfield, it didn't map any of the features and gave the (misleading) 
impression that a track still crossed it:


https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=13=52.41613=0.54170=11=3

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Re: [Talk-GB] Server crash or dns spoofing?

[ael]

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 09:12:20PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote:
> >> Apparently it was a temporary outrage,
> >> see https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/431

Thanks for all the replies. Indeed everything seems to be working again.

I am surprised that reverse dns doesn't work.

ael


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Re: [Talk-GB] Server crash or dns spoofing?

[Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB]

That is an unrelated failure that caused tile of
the default map style to stop updating
(other servers relying on the same toolchain also
were likely to be affected)


Jun 28, 2020, 21:08 by danstowell+...@gmail.com:

> I won't presume that everyone on talk-gb wants the gory technical
> details, but it seems they gave a brief summary on twitter:
> https://twitter.com/OSM_Tech/status/1277001284705570821
>
> Best
> Dan
>
>
> Op zo 28 jun. 2020 om 19:39 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
> :
>
>>
>> Apparently it was a temporary outrage,
>> see https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/431
>> (without useful details except that whatever is broken become fixed)
>>
>> Jun 28, 2020, 20:30 by witwa...@disroot.org:
>>
>> Is www.openstreetmap.org down?
>>
>> I am getting an error "We're sorry, but something went wrong".
>>
>> My dns is giving
>> www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.11
>> www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.13
>> www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.12
>> www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:b
>> www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:c
>> www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:d
>>
>> but reverse lookup is a bit suspicious:
>> $ host 130.117.76.11
>> Host 11.76.117.130.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>>
>> Am I the only one seeing this: do I need to investigate further?
>>
>> ael
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Re: [Talk-GB] Server crash or dns spoofing?

[Dan S]

I won't presume that everyone on talk-gb wants the gory technical
details, but it seems they gave a brief summary on twitter:
https://twitter.com/OSM_Tech/status/1277001284705570821

Best
Dan


Op zo 28 jun. 2020 om 19:39 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
:
>
> Apparently it was a temporary outrage,
> see https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/431
> (without useful details except that whatever is broken become fixed)
>
> Jun 28, 2020, 20:30 by witwa...@disroot.org:
>
> Is www.openstreetmap.org down?
>
> I am getting an error "We're sorry, but something went wrong".
>
> My dns is giving
> www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.11
> www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.13
> www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.12
> www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:b
> www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:c
> www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:d
>
> but reverse lookup is a bit suspicious:
> $ host 130.117.76.11
> Host 11.76.117.130.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>
> Am I the only one seeing this: do I need to investigate further?
>
> ael
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Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

[Kai Michael Poppe - OSM]

Good evening,

with (most) issues fixed, I've upgraded the plugin to v 0.1.5 and also
published it in the JOSM wiki so that you can download it via your
plugin dialog within JOSM.

I hope you find it as useful as others have already reported :-)

Thanks to everyone who has tested and helped me move the most glaring
mistakes out of the way!

Have a great evening!

Kai

On 26.06.2020 23:33, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Version 0.1.3 is now available for download from
> https://github.com/kmpoppe/fhrsPlugin
> 
> Thank you all for being so active in helping with the development of
> this small part of the OSM bubble!
> 
> Good n8!
> 
> Kai
> 
> On 26.06.2020 17:48, Tony OSM wrote:
>> Hi Kai
>>
>> Was thinking that automatically selecting the first array element which
>> will be highlighted in the display will solve it.
>>
>> My belt and braces is to catch that exception and display a suitable
>> error message ( should never occur)
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 26/06/2020 16:35, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony, Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> yep, that's the same Issue
>>> (https://github.com/kmpoppe/fhrsPlugin/issues/2) - current, you HAVE
>>> to select an entry, even if there is only one. I have covered for that
>>> now in code, but I'm thinking it might be easier, if there is just one
>>> entry, to automatically go for that one without the user having to
>>> select it.
>>>
>>> Kai
>>>
>>> On 26.06.2020 17:14, Tony OSM wrote:

 Hi

 I get that also. In my case its caused by not selecting an entry in
 the table presented after the initial Search entry. I've reported
 this issue & Kai is aware.

 Tony

 On 26/06/2020 15:54, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
> I'm getting this after selecting the Search Entry option:
>
> https://snipboard.io/7J6Eb0.jpg
>
> Latest JOSM version
>
> Any ideas?
>
> On 26/06/2020 10:45, o...@poppe.dev wrote:
>> Hey Tony,
>>
>> as I'm from the other side of the Channel, I doubt that there's
>> someone from the UK community that knows me well enough to reassure
>> you about my person (I could always ask people from the German
>> Telegram group to tell you I'm not a lunatic *g*)
>>
>> You could always take a look at the GitHub repository (
>> https://github.com/kmpoppe/fhrsPlugin) and check what's going on in
>> the code - which heavily relies on the JOSM core source.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Kai
>>
>>> Hi Kai
>>>
>>> I'd like to help as its a good idea - however I don't know you,
>> so could
>>> you get some community people who are well known to vouch for
>> you, its
>>> just that I don't want strange software on my machine.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tony Shield
>>>
>>> TonyS999
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Re: [Talk-GB] Server crash or dns spoofing?

[Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB]

Apparently it was a temporary outrage,
see https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/431
(without useful details except that whatever is broken become fixed)

Jun 28, 2020, 20:30 by witwa...@disroot.org:

> Is www.openstreetmap.org down?
>
> I am getting an error "We're sorry, but something went wrong".
>
> My dns is giving
> www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.11
> www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.13
> www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.12
> www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:b
> www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:c
> www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:d
>
> but reverse lookup is a bit suspicious:
> $ host 130.117.76.11
> Host 11.76.117.130.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>
> Am I the only one seeing this: do I need to investigate further?
>
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[Talk-GB] Server crash or dns spoofing?

[ael]

Is www.openstreetmap.org down?

I am getting an error "We're sorry, but something went wrong".

My dns is giving
www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.11
www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.13
www.openstreetmap.org has address 130.117.76.12
www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:b
www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:c
www.openstreetmap.org has IPv6 address 2001:978:2:2c::172:d

but reverse lookup is a bit suspicious:
$ host 130.117.76.11
Host 11.76.117.130.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

Am I the only one seeing this: do I need to investigate further?

ael



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment créer un élément DataItem ?

[Jérôme Seigneuret]

Oui sur la base d'un dictionnaire de clés valeurs

Le dim. 28 juin 2020 à 13:07, Yves P.  a écrit :

>  bça semble être ça (mais pas ou peu documenté) :
>
> https://github.com/Sophox/sophox/tree/metabot/metabot
>
> D'après la discussion Item Creation process
>  le
> bot créait un élément pour chaque nouveau tag trouver dans OSM.
> Depuis ?, il ne le fait que pour des tag présent au moins 10 fois dans la
> base et avec des noms pas trop "bizarres".
>
> Une création manuelle comme dans Wikidata serait bien ?
>
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Re: [Talk-es] Compra de Mapillary por parte de Facebook

[Roberto geb]

Mapillary siempre ha tenido una agenda oculta, porque quién va a pagar la
obtención, almacenamiento y gestión de millones de fotografías del mundo
sin sacar nada a cambio. Sus algoritmos de reconocimiento facial,
matrículas, señales de tráfico, vías, ... se han estado preparando para
venderse por ejemplo a fabricantes de vehículos autónomos, o como bancos de
pruebas de sus propios algoritmos.
Ahora que lo ha comprado Facebook ¿qué podemos esperar?
Mapillary no ha gestionado adecuadamente los datos para contribuir al
desarrollo y mejora de mapas (hace años que empezaron a romperse secuencias
de fotos y a geolocalizar fotos en lugares erróneos y la única solución que
ofrecían era volver a subir las secuencias), desde hace meses están
habiendo problemas para usar el web uploader sospecho que porque quieren
promover el uso del desktop uploader.
Y ahora la compra Facebook. Tal vez Facebook le permita llegar a más
personas e interesarles por fotografiar el mundo en el que cada uno vive,
pero de momento Mapillary no es rival para Google Street View, y no lo será
mientras no tenga un programa sistemático de captación de imágenes 360,
como lo tiene Google.

El vie., 26 jun. 2020 a las 17:42, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo (<
msevill...@gmail.com>) escribió:

> Muchas gracias Jorge por el resumen y mandar la cosa #alalista :-P
>
> A mi no me hace gracia que Mapillary la haya comprado Facebook, tampoco me
> gustaba que uno de sus partners más importantes fuera ESRI pero seguía
> subiendo fotos.
>
> Que nadie se engañe, cuando habéis subido las fotos a Mapillary les habéis
> regalado su copyright para que ellos hicieran con ellas lo que quisieran
> (hay otros hilos anteriores en esta lista sobre el asunto). Otra cosa es
> que, además las publicaran en Creative Commons, previa retirada de
> elementos de privacidad (no las que tienen  ellos en propiedad) y de ahí
> nos beneficiamos todos.
>
> Yo, más por el confinamiento y demás, que por otra cosa, he dejado de lado
> las sesiones "masivas" mapillary desde el retrovisor del coche... pero como
> bien decía Jorge, no hay alternativas reales y con tanta calidad que puedan
> sustituir a Mapillary que ahora si... será la alternativa a Google
> StreetView pero con mejoras que van, espero ,a seguir compartiendo con la
> comunidad de OSM.
>
> Yo no pude seguir la discusión en Telegram por lo que os animo, si os
> apetece, a que compartamos por aquí las reflexiones generales al respecto.
>
> Un saludo
>
> Miguel
>
> --
> *Miguel Sevilla-Callejo*
> Doctor en Geografía
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:29, Jorge Sanz Sanfructuoso 
> wrote:
>
>> Buenas
>>
>> Se ha comentado por Telegram y la mayoría ya lo sabreis. Facebook ha
>> comprado Mapillary.
>> https://blog.mapillary.com/news/2020/06/18/Mapillary-joins-Facebook.html
>>
>> En Telegram algunos tuvimos conversación sobre el tema. No voy a pasar
>> mensajes copiados directamente porque ya andan perdidos entre muchos
>> mensajes. Intentaré hacer un pequeño resumen. Añadir lo que se me escape.
>>
>> Se ha tenido diferencia de opiniones sobre lo bueno o malo de esto. En su
>> mayoría cuanto de malo es esta compra por parte de facebook. Facebook es el
>> diablo, Facebook va a usar las fotos para otras cosas como reconocer las
>> caras de la gente, localización de comercios, realidad aumentada,
>> Se ha hablado de las prácticas que lleva facebook y las mentiras por
>> ejemplo en la adquisición de whatsapp, que nunca iban a juntar esa
>> información con la de facebook.
>>
>> Posibles medios para borrar todas las fotos de Mapillary y como
>> descargarlas antes.
>> Borrar todas las fotos:
>> https://framagit.org/Midgard/exit-mapillary
>> Descargar todas las fotos:
>> https://github.com/gitouche-sur-osm/mapillary_takeout
>>
>> Por otra parte según indican en el blog van a dar acceso comercial a las
>> fotos procesadas.
>>
>> Y se ha hablado sobre la alternativa más parecida que
>> tenemos, OpenStreetCam. Se ha comentado que es lo mas parecido pero que no
>> llega ni por asomo a Mapillary.
>>
>> Me gustaría que la gente opinara del tema y también que indicará si ha
>> hecho o no contribuciones anteriormente a Mapillary o si ha usado los datos
>> de Mapillary de alguna manera. Esto último no se ha comentado en telegram
>> por la parte que ha opinado y creo que es importante.
>>
>> Mi opinión
>>
>> Por mi parte he subido bastantes fotos a Mapillary con diferentes
>> cámaras, algunas que he ganado y me ha dado Mapillary. También he usado
>> bastante los datos extraídos de las imágenes. Tanto directamente desde el
>> plugin de JOSM, como cogiendo información que saca Osmose de las fotos,
>> como usandolas en Pic4Review.
>>
>> La cantidad de información que sacados desde mapillary no es ni
>> comparable a la que saca la alternativa más parecida, OSC. Me fastidia
>> mucho que pueda tener facebook mayor acceso a las fotos, pero mas me
>> fastidia que nos pongamos zancadillas a nosotros mismos. Mapillary nos da
>> acceso fácil a muchísima 

Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

[Andy Townsend]

On 28/06/2020 00:47, David Woolley wrote:


On the other hand, there used to be part of the North Yorkshire moors 
that had "undefined" written over it on OS maps.)


Interestingly (assuming you're talking about the radar installation at 
RAF Fylingdales), at least as of my 2006 copy of OS's OL6 map, the OS 
was still lacking some of the detail - the military area is missing yet 
clearly signposted onsite, and the bridleway that runs north of the site 
is mostly signposted on the ground but mostly missing from the OS map 
(in OSM https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7600885032 and 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/813719250 
). 
There are still some "odd" signposts around such as 
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/tmp/fylingdales/IMG_20200531_163604.jpg , 
but at least no-one's pretending that there's "nothing there" - it's 
fairly obvious in the landscape: 
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/tmp/fylingdales/IMG_20200531_183407.jpg .


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Re: [Talk-br] Nova proposta de classificação viária - Votação encerrada

[santamariense]

A proposta está recebendo novas propostas de variáveis as quais
precisarão passar por novas votações, quer pontualmente, quer em
conjuntos. Várias observações foram feitas, muitas poderão ser votadas
em breve e outras tantas poderão ser votadas com o amadurecimento da
implantação em mapa do que está sendo proposto.

Como já foi falado em várias ocasiões, a discussão não acaba aqui, mas
sim evolui com o andar do mapeamento. Vou declarar a proposta
aprovada, uma vez que há a aprovação da maioria dos que votaram e por
respeito a quem dedicou o tempo que tinha para estudar a proposta e
dar seu voto. E para que possamos virar a página e a partir desse
momento votar casos pontuais conforme forem surgindo, bem como ajustes
no texto da proposta que se julgar necessário.

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[Talk-it] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Il settimanale di notizie su OSM, numero # 518, è ora disponibile online in 
italiano, 
fornendo come sempre un riassunto di molte cose che accadono nel mondo 
OpenStreetMap: 

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/it/archives/13326/

Buona lettura! 

Sai che possono anche inviare messaggi per il weeklyOSM? Basta effettuare il 
login 
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Per saperne di più su come scrivere un messaggio, leggi qui: 
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weeklyOSM? 

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Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

[Dave Love]

On Sun, 2020-06-28 at 13:37 +0100, Mark Goodge wrote:
> 
> On 28/06/2020 12:18, Dave Love wrote:
> > On Sun, 2020-06-28 at 09:33 +0100, Robert Skedgell wrote:
> > > Is it mapped or does it appear to be redacted on NLS's out-of-
> > > copyright
> > > OS maps?
> > 
> > Yes, for NLS and current OS displayed by MAGIC.
> 
> Is that yes, it's mapped, or yes, it's redacted?

Sorry, it's mapped.  I don't recall ever seeing anything redacted on an
OS map, but I don't remember when and what navigation we used on a
North York Moors walk.

I could have said that the reservoir in question will supply many
employees of the (well-mapped!) remaining GCHQ site.  I appreciate the
significance of critical infrastructure, but the threat model isn't
like German cyclists in the '30s, and a casual attacker will poison the
obvious open one that's now used for food defence.  I don't see a real
issue mapping it, but thought it was worth opinions.


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[Talk-pt] semanárioOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Bom dia,

O semanárioOSM Nº 518, o resumo de tudo o que acontece no mundo OpenStreetMap, 
está publicado *em português* : 

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/pb/archives/13326/

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[Talk-br] semanárioOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Bom dia,

O semanárioOSM Nº 518, o resumo de tudo o que acontece no mundo OpenStreetMap, 
está publicado *em português* : 

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/pb/archives/13326/

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Re: [Talk-it] [Import] civici Bergamo

[Andrea Musuruane]

Ciao,
ho scritto alla ML di import. Aspetto i loro feedback.

Ciao,

Andrea


On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:49 AM Andrea Albani  wrote:

> Non ho messo mano su questi dati e quindi ringrazio anch'io chi si è
> sbattuto per salvarli. Concordo con l'approccio proposto da Andrea
> Musuruane e la procedura descritta nella wiki.
> Ciao
>
> Il giorno ven 29 mag 2020 alle ore 10:09 Andrea Musuruane <
> musur...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Cascafico, apprezzo la buona volontà, però, prima di fare QA,
>> *possiamo concordare sul sistemare l'esistente, secondo quanto scritto
>> sulla wiki?  *
>>
>> Una volta che siamo concordi (*servono delle risposte da parte di molti
>> a questa mail*) bisogna informare la ML di import (mi prendo io questo
>> onere).
>>
>> Altrimenti continuiamo a fare lo stesso errore che ha fatto gigi2037 e ci
>> avviamo a fare un revert.
>>
>> Grazie,
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>>
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[Talk-ko] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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매주 일어나는 OSM 소식을 종합한, 518번째 주간OSM이 발행되었습니다.

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/ko/archives/13326/

읽어 주셔서 감사합니다!
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기사 작성법 등의 정보는 여기를 참조하세요.
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[Talk-africa] hebdoOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 518 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/13326/

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[Talk-ca] hebdoOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 518 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/13326/

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[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 518 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/13326/

Bonne lecture !

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[Talk-ht] hebdoOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Bonjour,

Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 518 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître 
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/13326/

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[Talk-de] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Die Wochennotiz Ausgabe Nr. # 518, ist nun verfügbar - 
 wie immer mit vielen Nachrichten aus dem OSM-Universium:

 https://www.weeklyosm.eu/de/archives/13326/

 Viel Spaß beim Lesen.  

 Euer Wochennotizteam
 
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[Talk-cl] semanarioOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Hola, el semanario Nº 518, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/13326/

¡Disfruta!

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[OSM-co] semanarioOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Hola, el semanario Nº 518, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/13326/

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[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 518,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of 
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

 https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/13326/

Enjoy! 

Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in 
to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about 
how to write a post here: 
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[talk-latam] semanarioOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Hola, el semanario Nº 518, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

https://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/13326/

¡Disfruta!

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[Talk-cu] semanarioOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 518, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 518,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of 
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[Talk-in] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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[Talk-bo] semanarioOSM Nº 518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 518, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

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[OSM-talk-ie] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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[Talk-ca] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 518,
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[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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[Talk-africa] weeklyOSM #518 2020-06-16-2020-06-22

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Carto not updating

[Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)]

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/971999

On 6/28/2020 8:23 AM, Ture Pålsson wrote:



27 juni 2020 kl. 17:20 skrev Marc M. :

Hello,

Le 27.06.20 à 17:04, ET Commands a écrit :

Is something wrong with the OSM Carto servers?

one diff freeze the update
sequenceNumber=4082799
timestamp=2020-06-26T19:17:02Z
ppl on #osm-dev are working on this.

Does anyone have the osm ID of the geometry that tripped things up? Seems like 
a good test case. :-)



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Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

[Andy Mabbett]

On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 00:47, David Woolley  wrote:


> there used to be part of the North Yorkshire moors
> that had "undefined" written over it on OS maps.

Unlike Sovet military maps, that had all the details...

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Re: [OSM-talk] Old phone line or old power line?

[Mike Thompson]

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 4:57 AM  wrote:
>
>  That is standard construction for the old above ground telephone lines in
> the US - many times those lines would run along a rail bed, perhaps even
> for railroad signaling purposes.
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[OSM-talk-fr] FTTH Références à fignoler

[Jacques Lavignotte]

Bonjour,

Cette armoire télécom dont le marquage semble ancien.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9wJthM7/IMG-20200628-113326.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/6QZksdsz/IMG-20200628-113321.jpg

Je l'ai posée au bon endroit :

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7660605456

Aidez-moi à compléter les  et les 

Merci, Jacques

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Re: [OSM-talk] Odp: Re: Old phone line or old power line?

[Andreas Vilén]

You are subscribing to a mail list. You should probably unsubscribe. It’s 
possible to read the messages in the archives if you don’t want the emails.

/Andreas

Skickat från min iPhone

> 27 juni 2020 kl. 22:10 skrev marekskleciak :
> 
> 
> What can I do to stop information from you?
> I removed it many times in spam but your address seems to be one exception: I 
> get messages again. This is nothing against you as a person or against your 
> content. I see you are from Russia and I really like russian people,have many 
> friends there.I like Russia as well. The reason is: my engagement in OSM is 
> recently less, so I try to read only messages written from less friends. 
> 
> Best regards,
> Marek
> 
> 
> Dnia 27 czerwca 2020 21:32 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk  
> napisał(a):
> 
> if you want more information, you have to give more information.
> 
>  
> Saturday, June 27, 2020 2:23 PM -05:00 from Mike Thompson 
> :
>  
>  
>  
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:21 PM Bryan Housel  wrote:
> >
> > I’d tag as `abandoned:power=minor_line` since you said it is down in 
> > places.  
> >
> > It is impossible to tell from the picture what its original purpose was, 
> > but this doesn’t matter much if you just want to get it mapped.
> Thanks Brian, I will proceed along those lines. I would still be interested 
> to hear from experts in the utility field as to what the original purpose of 
> the lines were.  Since this is in the US, one case assume standard household 
> voltage (given the size of the insulators and the fact that it terminiantes 
> at an old house in ruins), which back in the day was 110.  In which case, 
> there would be a considerably percentage voltage drop over the many km 
> distnace this line spans.
>  
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Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

[Mark Goodge]

On 28/06/2020 12:18, Dave Love wrote:

On Sun, 2020-06-28 at 09:33 +0100, Robert Skedgell wrote:

Is it mapped or does it appear to be redacted on NLS's out-of-
copyright
OS maps?


Yes, for NLS and current OS displayed by MAGIC.


Is that yes, it's mapped, or yes, it's redacted?

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Carto not updating

[Marc M.]

Le 28.06.20 à 14:23, Ture Pålsson a écrit :
>> 27 juni 2020 kl. 17:20 skrev Marc M. :
>> Le 27.06.20 à 17:04, ET Commands a écrit :
>>> Is something wrong with the OSM Carto servers?
>> one diff freeze the update
>> sequenceNumber=4082799
>> timestamp=2020-06-26T19:17:02Z
>> ppl on #osm-dev are working on this.
> Does anyone have the osm ID of the geometry that tripped things up? Seems 
> like a good test case. :-)

tmp fix target 3 relations with multiples errors (self-crossing outer)
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Vxd

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[Talk-africa] Release: Cartographie des itinéraires de bus (Mapping informal bus routes)

[Sören Reinecke via Talk-africa]

Hello Aftrica,

it is been a long time and I must admit that I "nearly forgot" about
this project but since we do a reorganisation in Trufi Association I
"remembered" you :)

I am happy to announce the release of 
https://mapping-bus-routes.readthedocs.io/fr/master/ and some of you
are keen to work on PT mapping projects and to be able to use this
resource. OSM Togo now works with us to enable easier access to public
transportation in their regions. That's why they were so fast in
translating :smiling:

I hope you will benefit from it. I always read the OSM Blog and would
be happy to hear what you do in terms of PT mapping. Take it as an
invite to do PT mapping projects and perhaps to work with us.

--
We - Trufi Association - are dedicated to easier access to public
transportation. We are a non-profit international NGO with our roots in
Bolivia & Germany. We are committed to help cities and regions to run
their own public transport apps. Now we want to help the communities in
Africa.
Communities from Africa helped to bring the French version (
https://mapping-bus-routes.readthedocs.io/fr/master/) of "Mapping
informal bus routes" alive in many different ways. I was really
surprised about the fast translation done by the community of Togo. OSM
Mali and OSM Ghana were very friendly, gave feedback and helped me to
spread the translation project. More people than necessary wanted to
help translating :) It was exciting as always.
-

Cheers

Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram

-Original Message-
From: Nathalie SIDIBE 
To: Enock Seth Nyamador 
Cc: Jean-Marc Liotier , talk-africa@openstreetmap.org, 
talk...@openstreetmap.org, talk...@openstreetmap.org, 
talk...@openstreetmap.org, Sören Reinecke 
Subject: Re: [Talk-africa] [Trufi Association] Translation of bus route
mapping documentation
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 15:13:19 +

Hi Sören, Jean-Marc, Enock 

Thank you Sören for the great job you are doing with Communities in
terms of Public Transport Organization.
My answer to your question "Does your community need a translation into
French? If 
yes, I would set up the translation infrastructure and invite the
onces 
wanting to do the translation work" is yes.
Yes, a translation into French will be very useful for most of the West
African OSM Communities and some of them including OSM Mali have been
already working on Public Transport Mapping Projects.

Thank you Jean-Marc, Enock for your comments and for looping in us in
this emails !

Best Regards,
Nathalie


Le mer. 13 mai 2020 à 15:17, Enock Seth Nyamador 
a écrit :
> Thanks Sören for sharing here, and JML for the comments, this post
> was initially shared on t.me/osmafrica where we have somehow diverse
> language representation and I recommended for it be posted here too,
> Looping in Talk-ML, CI and TG as well.
> 
> Cordialement,
> 
> Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 15:02 Uhr schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier <
> j...@liotier.org>:
> > On 5/12/20 10:40 PM, Sören Reinecke via Talk-africa wrote:
> > 
> > > I am Sören Reinecke from Trufi Association. We help communities
> > in developing countries to organize their public transport (pt)
> > e.g. we work with the community from Accra, Ghana. Aside from
> > providing the pt navigation app and the infrastructure behind it
> > (e.g. OTP server etc.) we also show mappers how to add bus routes
> > to OpenStreetMap ( 
> > https://mapping-bus-routes.readthedocs.io/en/master/ ).
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > My question is: Does your community need a translation into
> > French? If yes, I would set up the translation infrastructure and
> > invite the onces wanting to do the translation work.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Sören. talk-africa@openstreetmap.org is English language only
> > but, 
> > 
> > in French-speaking West Africa, the Openstreetmap contributors use 
> > 
> > French almost exclusively in their Openstreetmap practice. French 
> > 
> > translation proves valuable in including them.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > cc: Nathalie Sidibe, from Openstreetmap Mali, who is fluent in
> > English 
> > 
> > but very aware of how much French translations are required in her
> > local 
> > 
> > community - she can give you the local perspective.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Carto not updating

[Ture Pålsson]

> 27 juni 2020 kl. 17:20 skrev Marc M. :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Le 27.06.20 à 17:04, ET Commands a écrit :
>> Is something wrong with the OSM Carto servers?
> 
> one diff freeze the update
> sequenceNumber=4082799
> timestamp=2020-06-26T19:17:02Z
> ppl on #osm-dev are working on this.

Does anyone have the osm ID of the geometry that tripped things up? Seems like 
a good test case. :-)



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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Daniele Forsi]

Il giorno dom 28 giu 2020 alle ore 13:23 Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:

> e il pdf come lo modifichi poi?

ah! non li modifico, ho usato i PDF per farli vedere come "anteprima",
ma l'output finale era una slippy map creata con lo strumento di
processing interno a QGIS "Generate XYZ tiles"

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Carto not updating

[Marc M.]

Le 28.06.20 à 00:25, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) a écrit :
> Where is #osm-dev? 

on irc://irc.oftc.net/osm-dev

info about irc/web/mnatrix client
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IRC

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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Tempo fa ho scritto questo
https://de.straba.us/2017/06/28/openstreetmap-e-svg-aka-elaborare-la-mappa-di-osm-in-illustrator/

Il dom 28 giu 2020, 09:49 Umberto Cerrato  ha
scritto:

>
> Salve,
>
> Sono nuovo qui... mi chiedevo se fosse disponibile un modo per avere le
> mappe cartacee o magari PDF di una zona. In alta definizione però.
>
> Grazie mille
>
> Umberto
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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 28. Jun 2020, at 13:17, Cascafico Giovanni  wrote:
> 
> Io usavo una versione di almeno 5 anni fa e, dopo i primi problemi con output 
> vettoriale, ho sempre usato png a 300 dpi. I risultati erano senza sorprese.


sì, alla fine anch’io ho fatto più mappe png che vettoriali e funziona bene 
soprattutto anche con tanti elementi, ma per avere risultati professionali 
dovresti poter aggiustare delle cose (posizioni label soprattutto) a mano. Per 
questo chiedevo se si poteva fare in QGIS direttamente.


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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

>> On 28. Jun 2020, at 12:58, Daniele Forsi  wrote:
> l'esportazione in PDF mantiene i livelli, io ho esportato PDF
> vettoriali dagli shapefile di GeoFabrik, ma c'+ un bug per quanto
> riguarda i nomi dei layer perché il PDF qualche volta mostra i nomi
> esattamente come si vedono in QGIS e qualche altra volta mostra nomi
> del tipo layer_1, layer_2, ecc. (ho l'impressione che mostri i nomi
> giusti se si è fatta qualche modifica delle proprietà del layer)


e il pdf come lo modifichi poi? Delle modifiche si possono fare con 
LibreOffice, e funziona bene per esempio togliere cose, ma non è molto potente 
per le modifiche che vanno oltre. Al solito uso inkscape, ma per mappe 
complesse e grandi era troppo lento se ricordo bene. Una volta usavo adobe 
illustrator e macromedia freehand per lavori di questo tipo, ma oramai cerco di 
usare software open (faccio poi troppo poche mappe vettoriali per giustificare 
il costo di un abbonamento adobe, e freehand lo hanno comprato e distrutto 
decenni fa). Un’alternativa proprietaria e molto promettente potrebbe essere 
Affinity designer, prezzo molto accessibile, ma non l’ho ancora provato:
https://affinity.serif.com/it/designer/

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Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

[Dave Love]

On Sun, 2020-06-28 at 09:33 +0100, Robert Skedgell wrote:
> Is it mapped or does it appear to be redacted on NLS's out-of-
> copyright
> OS maps?

Yes, for NLS and current OS displayed by MAGIC.

> On 28/06/2020 09:27, Tony OSM wrote:
> > I question the meaning of the word 'secret' when used in a
> > newspaper. My
> > observations are that secret means the reporter didn't know about
> > it.
> > 
> > Tony
The reporter was in one of the structures when it was drained.  [The
quality of local news reporting may be higher than much else because
the audience is people who are more likely in a better position to
know/check.]

> > On 28/06/2020 00:47, David Woolley wrote:

> > > How would another mapper verify this?  I normally think that
> > > people
> > > interpret the map only what's on the ground rule too literally,
> > > but in
> > > this case, I'd suggest the moral thing to do is to ignore your
> > > local
> > > knowledge an only map what can be seen, without guessing its
> > > significance.

They could look it up in the HE listing.  (Obviously I traced the
outline from imagery, not the OS data.)  I was actually mapping the
local listed buildings, partly to point the local history society to
OSM rather than Google maps on their web site.

> > > (There are some road signs entitled "secret bunker", e.g. for
> > > Kelvedon
> > > Hatch, but I don't think this is the case here.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, there used to be part of the North Yorkshire
> > > moors
> > > that had "undefined" written over it on OS maps.)

With good vantage points around the obvious features, as for the
obvious green building that used to be below the area of the
reservoirs...  (For historical amusement, I don't off-hand know what
appeared there on 1970s maps, though I think there's one around
somewhere.  The OS7 and NLS versions may not be recent enough.)


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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Io usavo una versione di almeno 5 anni fa e, dopo i primi problemi con
output vettoriale, ho sempre usato png a 300 dpi. I risultati erano senza
sorprese.

Il dom 28 giu 2020, 12:58 Daniele Forsi  ha scritto:

> Il giorno dom 28 giu 2020 alle ore 11:30 Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:
>
> > sì, lo uso anch’io, vorrei cogliere l’occasione per chiedervi qual’è il
> vostro workflow. [...]
> > Mi sembra di ricordare che gli esportazioni vettoriali creano problemi,
> sia in pdf che in svg. Per esempio non ci sono più livelli
>
> l'esportazione in PDF mantiene i livelli, io ho esportato PDF
> vettoriali dagli shapefile di GeoFabrik, ma c'+ un bug per quanto
> riguarda i nomi dei layer perché il PDF qualche volta mostra i nomi
> esattamente come si vedono in QGIS e qualche altra volta mostra nomi
> del tipo layer_1, layer_2, ecc. (ho l'impressione che mostri i nomi
> giusti se si è fatta qualche modifica delle proprietà del layer)
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment créer un élément DataItem ?

[Yves P.]

>  bça semble être ça (mais pas ou peu documenté) : 

https://github.com/Sophox/sophox/tree/metabot/metabot

D'après la discussion Item Creation process 
 le 
bot créait un élément pour chaque nouveau tag trouver dans OSM.
Depuis ?, il ne le fait que pour des tag présent au moins 10 fois dans la base 
et avec des noms pas trop "bizarres".

Une création manuelle comme dans Wikidata serait bien ?

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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Daniele Forsi]

Il giorno dom 28 giu 2020 alle ore 11:30 Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:

> sì, lo uso anch’io, vorrei cogliere l’occasione per chiedervi qual’è il 
> vostro workflow. [...]
> Mi sembra di ricordare che gli esportazioni vettoriali creano problemi, sia 
> in pdf che in svg. Per esempio non ci sono più livelli

l'esportazione in PDF mantiene i livelli, io ho esportato PDF
vettoriali dagli shapefile di GeoFabrik, ma c'+ un bug per quanto
riguarda i nomi dei layer perché il PDF qualche volta mostra i nomi
esattamente come si vedono in QGIS e qualche altra volta mostra nomi
del tipo layer_1, layer_2, ecc. (ho l'impressione che mostri i nomi
giusti se si è fatta qualche modifica delle proprietà del layer)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Old phone line or old power line?

[steve . barkto]

On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:04:46 -0600, Mike Thompson 
wrote:

>Any idea whether this is an old powerline or an old phone line?  Photo is
>geotagged, so if you download it and drop it into JOSM you can see the
>larger context.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/6cMueDbGJPdz8Es77

 That is standard construction for the old above ground telephone lines in
the US - many times those lines would run along a rail bed, perhaps even
for railroad signaling purposes.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment créer un élément DataItem ?

[Yves P.]

> As-tu regardé cette page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_items 
> Pas aujourd'hui.

Merci pour le lien vers Item Creation Process 


Connais-tu le lien du code du bot ?

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Re: [Talk-it] Viabilità in centro Asti

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 28. Jun 2020, at 12:15, Lorenzo Rolla  wrote:
> 
> Ringrazio Martin per aver “frantumato” il mio ego


io chiedo scusa, avrei dovuto impegnarmi di più per non rischiare di frantumare 
il tuo ego :)

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment créer un élément DataItem ?

[Jérôme Seigneuret]

Salut,

As-tu regardé cette page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_items

Le dim. 28 juin 2020 à 12:01, Yves P.  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai créé une page anglaise pour une clé, mais le menu *Élément
> OpenStreetMap Wiki* n'apparait pas.
> (De même pour les pages dans les langues autres que l'anglais).
>
> Et peut-on créer un élément sans créer de page wiki ?
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Viabilità in centro Asti

[Lorenzo Rolla]

Ringrazio Martin per aver “frantumato” il mio ego... Ma ripercorrendo gli
articoli di giornale dei mesi scorsi, apprendo che la piazza verrà
parzialmente chiusa al traffico...

https://www.lastampa.it/asti/2019/12/29/news/rotonde-e-ztl-c-e-il-si-al-progetto-sulla-nuova-viabilita-in-piazza-alfieri-1.38263374

Inoltre il comune ha deciso di procedere gradualmente alla sua
trasformazione:

https://www.comune.asti.it/archivio10_comunicati_0_15807.html

Interessante il pdf sottoriportato al comunicato. Spero che la precisazione
appena fornita attenui la mia responsabilità ad aver elevato questa notizia
a livello nazionale... buona domenica. Lorenzo.



Il giorno dom 28 giu 2020 alle 10:33 Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> > On 28. Jun 2020, at 09:41, Lorenzo Rolla  wrote:
> >
> > Gentilissimi, apprendo dalla Stampa, ed. Asti, che la viabilità
> cittadina sarà pesantemente rivoluzionata in centro
>
>
> da vicino può sembrare una rivoluzione, un cambio epocale, ma fidati, un
> senso unico che diventa a doppio senso, con un po’ di distanza, è lontano
> da una rivoluzione, anche se di conseguenza ci saranno meno posti macchina.
> Non è una vicenda di interesse nazionale (al mio avviso).
> Se avessero chiuso la città alle macchine, la terminologia sarebbe forse
> stata adatta, ma così si tratta di una notizia di solo interesse locale,
> utile da segnalare in mailing list regionale/locale.
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[OSM-talk-fr] Comment créer un élément DataItem ?

[Yves P.]

Bonjour,

J'ai créé une page anglaise pour une clé, mais le menu Élément OpenStreetMap 
Wiki n'apparait pas.
(De même pour les pages dans les langues autres que l'anglais).

Et peut-on créer un élément sans créer de page wiki ?

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM : Sélection > Inverser la Sélection

[leni]

Le 25/06/2020 à 10:34, leni a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'ai rencontré dans l'aide un élément du menu Sélection que je ne 
connaissais pas : 
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/InvertSelection


Je n'arrive pas à trouver les conditions qui le font apparaître (en 
plus du mode avancé)


Sauriez-vous comment faire pour le faire apparaître ?
Merci à Jean-Yvon qui m'a permis de voir que cette action apparaîtra 
avec la version 16701/josm 



Cordialement

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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 28. Jun 2020, at 10:34, Cascafico Giovanni  wrote:
> 
> Qgis ha tutti i plugin per OSM, svariate opzioni di rendering ed una intera 
> sezione per gestire la stampa.


sì, lo uso anch’io, vorrei cogliere l’occasione per chiedervi qual’è il vostro 
workflow. Mentre in generale si può dire che funzioni, nel dettaglio ho delle 
perplessità. È possibile aggiustare le posizioni delle ettichette dentro QGIS? 
Mi sembra di ricordare che gli esportazioni vettoriali creano problemi, sia in 
pdf che in svg. Per esempio non ci sono più livelli, gli halo sono distaccati 
dai label, perciò spostare un label insieme al halo richiede tanta pazienza. 
Cambiare il contenuto di un label (il testo) è quasi impossibile (credo di 
ricordare perché l’unica soluzione che funzionava bene richiedeva di 
trasformare i testi in curve che non sono più modificabili al livello di testo 
naturalmente).
Per non perdermi label importanti avevo talvolta usato l’opzione di non 
omettere label sovrapposti (e poi cancellavo quelli in eccesso a mano prima di 
stampare).

Spostare il label in QGIS prima di esportare sarebbe bello anche nel caso che 
il label segue la linea, perché in questo caso non basta spostare, devi anche 
modificare la forma e ruotare quando lo sposti.

Un’altra cosa: nella versione 2 era impossibile creare raster in alta 
risoluzione (facevo 1x1m ed il massimo era 500dpi, mentre 600dpi non lo faceva, 
nonostante il RAM sufficiente), per fortuna nella versione 3 questo è risolto.

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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Michele Marc]

Ciao
Io di solito uso inkatlas
https://inkatlas.com/
Mi trovo bene ed é comodo.

Il Dom 28 Giu 2020, 10:22 Ivo Reano  ha scritto:

>
>> Salve,
>>
>> Sono nuovo qui... mi chiedevo se fosse disponibile un modo per avere le
>> mappe cartacee o magari PDF di una zona. In alta definizione però.
>>
>> Grazie mille
>>
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> Ciao!
> Potresti vedere alla pagina:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Italy/Stampare
> Prova MapOsmatic, molto facile e ottieni ottimi risultati facendo varie
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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Se devi fare una cosa professionale, con massima flessibilità, Qgis ha
tutti i plugin per OSM, svariate opzioni di rendering ed una intera sezione
per gestire la stampa.

Il dom 28 giu 2020, 09:49 Umberto Cerrato  ha
scritto:

>
> Salve,
>
> Sono nuovo qui... mi chiedevo se fosse disponibile un modo per avere le
> mappe cartacee o magari PDF di una zona. In alta definizione però.
>
> Grazie mille
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

[Robert Skedgell]

Is it mapped or does it appear to be redacted on NLS's out-of-copyright
OS maps?

On 28/06/2020 09:27, Tony OSM wrote:
> I question the meaning of the word 'secret' when used in a newspaper. My
> observations are that secret means the reporter didn't know about it.
> 
> Tony
> 
> On 28/06/2020 00:47, David Woolley wrote:
>> On 27/06/2020 23:37, Dave Love wrote:
>>> I was going to map a covered reservoir round here that I've known from
>>> my youth, but I happened to find an article about it from the local
>>> paper suggesting the location is secret, though it's listed in
>>> Historic England.  (It's not far from a "sensitive government
>>> establishment" that no-one locally knew about before it ceased to be
>>> secret :-/)
>>> Should I not map it, or pretend I didn't see the article?
>>>
>>
>> How would another mapper verify this?  I normally think that people
>> interpret the map only what's on the ground rule too literally, but in
>> this case, I'd suggest the moral thing to do is to ignore your local
>> knowledge an only map what can be seen, without guessing its
>> significance.
>>
>> (There are some road signs entitled "secret bunker", e.g. for Kelvedon
>> Hatch, but I don't think this is the case here.
>>
>> On the other hand, there used to be part of the North Yorkshire moors
>> that had "undefined" written over it on OS maps.)
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Re: [Talk-it] Viabilità in centro Asti

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 28. Jun 2020, at 09:41, Lorenzo Rolla  wrote:
> 
> Gentilissimi, apprendo dalla Stampa, ed. Asti, che la viabilità cittadina 
> sarà pesantemente rivoluzionata in centro


da vicino può sembrare una rivoluzione, un cambio epocale, ma fidati, un senso 
unico che diventa a doppio senso, con un po’ di distanza, è lontano da una 
rivoluzione, anche se di conseguenza ci saranno meno posti macchina. Non è una 
vicenda di interesse nazionale (al mio avviso).
Se avessero chiuso la città alle macchine, la terminologia sarebbe forse stata 
adatta, ma così si tratta di una notizia di solo interesse locale, utile da 
segnalare in mailing list regionale/locale.

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Re: [Talk-GB] "secret" site

[Tony OSM]

I question the meaning of the word 'secret' when used in a newspaper. My 
observations are that secret means the reporter didn't know about it.


Tony

On 28/06/2020 00:47, David Woolley wrote:

On 27/06/2020 23:37, Dave Love wrote:

I was going to map a covered reservoir round here that I've known from
my youth, but I happened to find an article about it from the local
paper suggesting the location is secret, though it's listed in
Historic England.  (It's not far from a "sensitive government
establishment" that no-one locally knew about before it ceased to be
secret :-/)
Should I not map it, or pretend I didn't see the article?



How would another mapper verify this?  I normally think that people 
interpret the map only what's on the ground rule too literally, but in 
this case, I'd suggest the moral thing to do is to ignore your local 
knowledge an only map what can be seen, without guessing its 
significance.


(There are some road signs entitled "secret bunker", e.g. for Kelvedon 
Hatch, but I don't think this is the case here.


On the other hand, there used to be part of the North Yorkshire moors 
that had "undefined" written over it on OS maps.)


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Re: [Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Ivo Reano]

>
>
> Salve,
>
> Sono nuovo qui... mi chiedevo se fosse disponibile un modo per avere le
> mappe cartacee o magari PDF di una zona. In alta definizione però.
>
> Grazie mille
>
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Potresti vedere alla pagina:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Italy/Stampare
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Carto not updating

[Sarah Hoffmann]

Hi,

short update on the issue: libosmium has just made a new release
that fixes the issue: https://github.com/osmcode/libosmium/releases/tag/v2.15.6

osm2pgsql and Nominatim will get new bug-fix releases with the
new libosmium version by today or tomorrow.

You can already download the new libosmium and build osm2pgsql
against that to get a fixed version.

If that is not an option, you can get your installation unstuck for now
by patching the configuration to ignore the offending Klamath forst.

For openstreetmap-carto, add the following patch to your
openstreetmap-carto.lua file:
https://gist.github.com/lonvia/ab7db4156bbfbcf8ebe1ba8185c2e66c

For Nominatim, you need to skip the relation in the import style
file configured through the CONST_Import_Style variable. This
would be settings/import-full.style per default. You need to add
the lines as in this patch:
https://git.openstreetmap.org/nominatim.git/commitdiff/f9ba2af
(careful, the osm.org installation uses import-extratags.style.
 You must apply the patch to the style file you use. Just make
 sure the lines are added at the top of the file.)

In both cases: after you have applied the patch, kill osm2pgsql
and then restart your update process as usual.

Kind regards

Sarah


On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 06:25:11PM -0400, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:
> Where is #osm-dev?  I'd like to listen in as my updates are also stalling
> with osm2pgsql ramping up to 100% while processing relations.
> 
> Lynn (D) - Running a planet-wide tile server with updates...  (or trying
> to!)
> 
> On 6/27/2020 11:20 AM, Marc M. wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Le 27.06.20 à 17:04, ET Commands a écrit :
> > > Is something wrong with the OSM Carto servers?
> > one diff freeze the update
> > sequenceNumber=4082799
> > timestamp=2020-06-26T19:17:02Z
> > ppl on #osm-dev are working on this.
> > 
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[Talk-it] Stampare mappe o esportarle in PDF alta risoluzione

[Umberto Cerrato]

Salve,

Sono nuovo qui... mi chiedevo se fosse disponibile un modo per avere le mappe 
cartacee o magari PDF di una zona. In alta definizione però.

Grazie mille 

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[Talk-it] Viabilità in centro Asti

[Lorenzo Rolla]

Gentilissimi, apprendo dalla Stampa, ed. Asti, che la viabilità cittadina
sarà pesantemente rivoluzionata in centro. Allego il link affinché qualche
volenteroso provveda all’aggiornamento... Un cordiale saluto. Lorenzo

https://www.lastampa.it/asti/2020/06/28/news/sul-lato-dei-portici-pogliani-doppio-senso-e-meno-parcheggi-1.39017687

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Re: [Talk-it] Nuova licenza delle tiles standard

[Maurizio Napolitano]

"opera prodotta con dati derivati da odbl" non è odbl :)
Odbl è per i dati
Io interpreto in questo modo: se usi le tile allora cita la fonte, se dalle
nostre tile derivi dati, allora questi saranno in odbl
E fino a qui è esattamente quello che dice la odbl
I dubbi che ho è quando le tile saranno usate per la stampa assieme ad
altri contenuti con licenze diverse
Penso a modifiche fatte sopra l'immagine
Molto probabilmente sarà tutto più facile di prima
Sicuramente però uscirà l'ennesima linea guida su come fare


Il dom 28 giu 2020, 02:18 Martin Koppenhoefer  ha
scritto:

>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> On 27. Jun 2020, at 23:46, Andrea Musuruane  wrote:
>
> > Da CC-BY-SA passa a ODbL1.0?
>>
>>
>> no, passa a cc-by
>> La ODbL è per i dati contenuti
>>
> <#m_3759707986591782607_>
>>
>>
>>
>> sent from a phone
>>
>> > On 27. Jun 2020, at 17:57, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu <
>> liste.gira...@posteo.eu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Perdonate ma non o capito alla fine il passaggio della licenza.
>> >
>> > Da CC-BY-SA passa a ODbL1.0?
>>
>>
>> no, passa a cc-by
>> La ODbL è per i dati contenuti
>>
>
> No. Sia dati che tile saranno sotto ODbL:
>
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group/Minutes/2020-04-09#Tile_licence
>
>
>
> Grazie Andrea, hai ragione, ammetto che ero un po’ distratto stasera, i
> tiles saranno pubblicati come opera prodotta con dati in ODbL.
>
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