Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: OSM meetup in Mechelen in November?
Hello Kathleen, That would be great! I'd love to have company, and I would especially love having someone to take the train with me out to Mechelen! I'll see you there at 8h00! I'll be at the brewery and I hope that other people will join. I wont be able to come along to Mechelen, but I'll get you to the train that takes you to Mechelen, where you'll meet the other members of OSM-Be like Ben -- Nicolas Pettiaux, dr. sc - gsm : 0496 24 55 01 - wiki.rmll.be - wiki.wlsm.be RMLL - World libre software and culture meeting - WLSM Soutenez la candidature de Bruxelles, 6 = 11/7/2013. Liste orga sur http://lc.cx/Zia Support Brussels as candidate, July 6 to 11, 2013 - Orga list on http://lc.cx/Zia Lepacte.be - « promouvoir les libertés numériques en Belgique » - hetpact.be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: OSM meetup in Mechelen in November?
Kathleen, We will pick you up at the train station of Mechelen. Nicolas will send me a text message so we know by which train you will be arriving. At the moment it's just Ben and me. I hope others will join in too. Jo 2012/11/2 Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be Hello Kathleen, That would be great! I'd love to have company, and I would especially love having someone to take the train with me out to Mechelen! I'll see you there at 8h00! I'll be at the brewery and I hope that other people will join. I wont be able to come along to Mechelen, but I'll get you to the train that takes you to Mechelen, where you'll meet the other members of OSM-Be like Ben -- Nicolas Pettiaux, dr. sc - gsm : 0496 24 55 01 - wiki.rmll.be - wiki.wlsm.be RMLL - World libre software and culture meeting - WLSM Soutenez la candidature de Bruxelles, 6 = 11/7/2013. Liste orga sur http://lc.cx/Zia Support Brussels as candidate, July 6 to 11, 2013 - Orga list on http://lc.cx/Zia Lepacte.be - « promouvoir les libertés numériques en Belgique » - hetpact.be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: OSM meetup in Mechelen in November?
2012/11/2 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: Kathleen, We will pick you up at the train station of Mechelen. Nicolas will send me a text message so we know by which train you will be arriving. At the moment it's just Ben and me. I hope others will join in too. I like this kind of great and effective organization that helps taking care of visitors ;-) Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, dr. sc - gsm : 0496 24 55 01 - wiki.rmll.be - wiki.wlsm.be RMLL - World libre software and culture meeting - WLSM Soutenez la candidature de Bruxelles, 6 = 11/7/2013. Liste orga sur http://lc.cx/Zia Support Brussels as candidate, July 6 to 11, 2013 - Orga list on http://lc.cx/Zia Lepacte.be - « promouvoir les libertés numériques en Belgique » - hetpact.be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: OSM meetup in Mechelen in November?
Oh my goodness-- you are all so incredibly kind!! Meeting up at the train station in Mechelen sounds absolutely perfect. Thank you so much! I can't wait to meet you all :-) On Nov 2, 2012 5:36 AM, Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be wrote: 2012/11/2 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: Kathleen, We will pick you up at the train station of Mechelen. Nicolas will send me a text message so we know by which train you will be arriving. At the moment it's just Ben and me. I hope others will join in too. I like this kind of great and effective organization that helps taking care of visitors ;-) Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, dr. sc - gsm : 0496 24 55 01 - wiki.rmll.be - wiki.wlsm.be RMLL - World libre software and culture meeting - WLSM Soutenez la candidature de Bruxelles, 6 = 11/7/2013. Liste orga sur http://lc.cx/Zia Support Brussels as candidate, July 6 to 11, 2013 - Orga list on http://lc.cx/Zia Lepacte.be - « promouvoir les libertés numériques en Belgique » - hetpact.be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL
On 30.10.2012 13:30, Michael Collinson wrote: I propose that we base a re-write on: *OpenStreetMap considers **Open Data to be a usefully collected set of intelligently or machine-made physical observations only. Purely algorithmic augmentation of data and re-casting of data to use, store or transmit it in different manners is not part of the data IP. Share Alike may however apply to physical observations inside the augmented or re-cast data; in this case the physical observations must be provided to the public in a commonly used or documented open format as per ODbL clause 4.6b*. The wording might be improved, but that is the general idea. I just want to say that I like this suggestion. It is the first time I've seen a possible definition of what would be required to be published because of the Share Alike clause - and what wouldn't - that draws a clearly understandable line and where I could actually imagine that it would be reasonably applicable in practice. Tobias ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL
From: Tobias Knerr [mailto:o...@tobias-knerr.de] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:14 AM To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licenses for Produced Works under ODbL On 30.10.2012 13:30, Michael Collinson wrote: I propose that we base a re-write on: *OpenStreetMap considers **Open Data to be a usefully collected set of intelligently or machine-made physical observations only. Purely algorithmic augmentation of data and re-casting of data to use, store or transmit it in different manners is not part of the data IP. Share Alike may however apply to physical observations inside the augmented or re-cast data; in this case the physical observations must be provided to the public in a commonly used or documented open format as per ODbL clause 4.6b*. The wording might be improved, but that is the general idea. I just want to say that I like this suggestion. It is the first time I've seen a possible definition of what would be required to be published because of the Share Alike clause - and what wouldn't - that draws a clearly understandable line and where I could actually imagine that it would be reasonably applicable in practice. I like that interpretation, the question is if it is supported by the text of the ODbL. If it isn't then the statement is of no value. Reading 4.6.b and the paragraph below it there might be some justification for such an interpretation in the lower paragraph. The lower paragraph talks about the alteration file (under b.) In my mind, this is envisioning the file under 4.6.b being a diff of some kind adding new data, not a file describing a purely algorithmic transformation of data that includes no new data. You would of course be required to state how to apply the diff (e.g. take this .osc and use osmosis to apply it to planet.osm). It could also be something more complicated (e.g. use this program that reads in the OSM file, matches the objects against this shapefile and adds extra attributes from the shapefile). Additional support for this would be that the act of converting a copyrighted work (e.g. a map, to the extent that it's protected by copyright) from one format to another does not generally attract copyright protection. Weighing against this interpretation is the broad definition of derivative database in the ODbL. I like the proposed text, I just have an itching feeling it might require ODbL 1.1 to implement. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Data consumer use cases
Goal-oriented wiki page, first draft: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License/Use_Cases Some points deliberately simplified for readability. CC welcome. As I was going through all the ways one might make a derivative database, it struck me that there's an obvious way of dodging this - to put whatever information you want to display into OSM first. I found the bulk import guidelines, but nothing really on what kinds of business data might be desirable/undesirable in OSM. Is there anything anywhere that gives examples of things we wouldn't want - like marketing slogans and product descriptions in place names, for example? Jonathan. -- Dr Jonathan Harley :Managing Director: SpiffyMap Ltd m...@spiffymap.com Phone: 0845 313 8457 www.spiffymap.com The Venture Centre, Sir William Lyons Road, Coventry CV4 7EZ, UK ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps
I have discovered a lot of data in OSM that appears to have been copied from Google Maps. See http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source#values and type google into the search box. There appear to be over 3 objects in the OSM database copied from Google. Anyone willing to help delete data and warn users? (It is a LOT of work to do this myself). Please beware that some of these objects may have been modified by innocent users afterward, please check the history to see which user originally added it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps
From the dates, it looks like most of those are from the Haiti earthquake tracing, when Google allowed OSM to use its imagery for tracing. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources#Google_Imagery Cheers, Brad On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.comwrote: I have discovered a lot of data in OSM that appears to have been copied from Google Maps. See http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source#values and type google into the search box. There appear to be over 3 objects in the OSM database copied from Google. Anyone willing to help delete data and warn users? (It is a LOT of work to do this myself). Please beware that some of these objects may have been modified by innocent users afterward, please check the history to see which user originally added it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Parks Trails NY is now using OSM
Awesome! On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Parks Trails NY is now using OSM via Leaflet and Mapquest: http://geoserving.net/ctec/ -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Alex Barth http://twitter.com/lxbarth tel (+1) 202 250 3633 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: From the dates, it looks like most of those are from the Haiti earthquake tracing, when Google allowed OSM to use its imagery for tracing. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources#Google_Imagery I didn't realize this. Still, there is a lot of data in the database with source=Google which is not in Haiti, which is obviously a copyright violation. Presumably this is the only time Google granted an exception? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-au] unsealed and 4x4 roads revisited
Folks, following some suggestions off-list I have rewritted the proposed unsealed roads section on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Australian_Tagging_Guidelines Emphasis has now been placed on the roads people are thinking about rather than the tags used. Makes it a bit more friendly to someone wanting help describing a particular road. As the intention of the text has not changed much and no one seemed unhappy with it, I'll publish it in a couple of days if no further objections are received. As a follow on, I intend to start lobbying to - 1. Get unsealed roads and 4x4 roads clearly marked as such on (eg) slippery map in OSM web site. 2. Get the tracktype tag expanded to grade6 and grade7 being equivalent to our 4wd_only tags 3. Get tracktype recognized as not just applying to highway=track. David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections
I have been trying to find the accepted practise for mapping traffic lights where dual carriageways interest. There is much discussion on various sites, but most seems to be a bit old, and I'm not convinced I've found what is the latest accepted practise. I checked some intersections in Melbourne's CBD, and the method I saw that I liked and thought the best was where there were 4 lights at the intersection, but they were not placed on the intersecting modes, but one node back upstream on each way. I think this is good because no matter which way you go through the intersection, you only pass one set of lights (rather than 2 if they were placed on the actual intersecting nodes). Any comments? thanks Ian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[Talk-is] LUKR Ljósastaurar (data import)
Hæ (enn og aftur). Tók frumkvæði og vann aðeins með LUKR gögnin sem við fengum aukalega frá Reykjavík; Breytti gögnunum úr .shp yfir í .osm (nema stofnanir og miðlínur stíga) og skoðaði þau aðeins (afrakstur á http://osm.is/gogn/ZZ-Umbreytt/Reykjav%C3%ADk/). Þá tók ég eftir að skráin með ljósastaurum er ekki bara með ljósastaurum í Reykjavík, heldur allt höfuðborgarsvæðið (fyrir utan mesta hluta Garðabæjar og Mosfellsbæjar, og nokkur hverfi í Kópavogi). Þá ákvað ég að endurnýta https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Iceland/LUKR til að fjalla um nýju gögnin. Ég hef áhuga á að setja inn ljósastauragögnin sem fyrst af þeirri ástæðu að gögnin eru líklegast sett inn út frá loftmyndum sem eru nákvæmari en gervihnattamyndirnar sem BING útvegar af svæðum utan Reykjavík. Þá er hægt að nota t.d. ljósastaurana sem mælikvarða til að reikna út gróft offset á gervihnattamyndunum. Stikkprufur fyrir Reykjavík benda til þess að gögnin séu í nokkuð góðu samræmi við loftmyndirnar úr Reykjavík sem eru þarna þá þegar. Ljósastauragögnin innihalda 35.293 nóður en núna í OSM eru 175 highway=street_lamp nóður á höfuðborgarsvæðinu. Samkvæmt history á þessum gögnin eru flestar nóðurnar settar inn af Mister Kanister og hinar eru frá mér. Til að einfalda import hef ég spurt Mister Kanister hvort ég megi eyða nóðunum hans í stað þess að merge-a þær handvirkt. Ljósastauranóðurnar úr LUKR skiptast niður á sveitarfélög með þessum hætti (samkvæmt _SVF_ lyklinum): Hefur ekki þennan lykil = 296 = Reykjavík = 26.529 1000 = Kópavogur = 2.685 1100 = Seltjarnarnes = 823 1300 = Garðabær = 340 1400 = Hafnarfjörður = 4.070 1603 = Álftanes = 499 1604 = Mosfellsbær = 51 Einnig hef ég skoðað lyklana og sé engan sem hægt er að þýða yfir í gagnlegt tag fyrir utan _FLOKKUR sem er merking LUKR fyrir ljósastaur (eða ljósastólpa eins og þeir kalla þetta). Við importið verður öllum lyklum eytt *nema* þeim lyklum sem samfélagið vill halda til haga (skv. import guidelines á að gera þetta), en þeir fá þá forskeytið ,lukr:'. Að lokum verður highway=street_lamp bætt við nóðurnar. Ekkert einkvæmt númer fylgir nóðunum svo að uppfærslur verða að fara fram á þann hátt að láta staðsetninguna auðkenna hverja nóðu. Fyrir importið óska ég eftir að fá að komast í OSM aðganginn sem LUKR stígagögnin voru sett inn frá, svo ég þurfi ekki að stofna annan fyrir þetta import og önnur LUKR import í framtíðinni. Með kveðju, Svavar Kjarrval Fylgiefni: Listi yfir lykla í ljósastauraskjalinu og gildin á þeim (dró saman sum gildin svo tölvupósturinn yrði ekki of stór): _AR_UPPL_=0 _AR_UPPL_= Ýmis ár frá 1978 til 2008 _BREYTANDI_= _BREYTANDI_=rj _DAGS_BREYT_= _DAGS_BREYT_= Ýmsar dagsetningar frá 2001/04/02 til 2011/11/03 _DAGS_INN_= Ýmsar dagsetningar frá 1994/01/18 til 2011/09/28 _DAGS_LEIDR_= _DAGS_LEIDR_= Ýmsar dagsetningar frá 2008/04/02 til 2011/11/03 _DAGS_UPPF_= _DAGS_UPPR_= _FLOKKUR_=455 _GAGNA_EIGN_= _GAGNA_EIGN_=OR _GAGNA_EIGN_=Orkuveita Reykjavíkur _HEIMILD_= _HEIMILD_=Veita_43001 _HEIMILD_=Veita_43006 _HEIMILD_=Áætlað 2009 - Dreifing _NAFN_G_= _NAFN_G_=LUKOR _NAFN_G_=Veita_43001 _NAKV_= 0.00 _NAKV_= 0.25 _NAKV_= 0.30 _NAKV_= 0.35 _NAKV_= 0.45 _NAKV_= 1.00 _NAKV_XY_= 0. _NOTANDI_= _NOTANDI_=LUK_GRUNNUR _NOTANDI_=bv245 _NOTANDI_=rj _NOTANDI_=rj+ _SVF_= _SVF_= _SVF_=1000 _SVF_=1100 _SVF_=1300 _SVF_=1400 _SVF_=1603 _SVF_=1604 _UPPR_=1 _UPPR_=2 _UPPR_=3 _UPPR_=4 _UPPR_=5 _UPPR_=8 _VIDMIDUN_P_=0 _VIDMIDUN_P_=92 _VINNSLA_F_=0 _VINNSLA_F_=1 _VINNSLA_F_=4 _VINNSLA_F_=5 _Z_= Mörg gildi frá 0. til 122.5780, 12.534 nóður í því fyrrnefnda _d_FLOKKUR_=Ljósastólpi _d_SVF_= _d_SVF_=Bessastaðahreppur _d_SVF_=Garðabær _d_SVF_=Hafnarfjörður _d_SVF_=Kópavogur _d_SVF_=Mosfellsbær _d_SVF_=Reykjavík _d_SVF_=Seltjarnarnes _d_UPPR_=Borðhnitað _d_UPPR_=Hannað _d_UPPR_=Landmælt _d_UPPR_=Myndmælt _d_UPPR_=Riss _d_UPPR_=Skannað / Vektrað _d_VIDMIDUN_= _d_VINNSLA__= _d_VINNSLA__=Hönnunargögn _d_VINNSLA__=Landmæling _d_VINNSLA__=Skjáhnitun/Borðhnitun signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is
Re: [Talk-is] Samvinna með Sjálfbjörg - vantar sjálfboðaliða
Vegna óveðursins verður POI söfnuninni frestað þar til 17. nóvember, gefið að það sé göngufært þá. - Svavar Kjarrval On 29/10/12 22:07, Svavar Kjarrval wrote: Hæ. Ég ræddi við fólkið í Sjálfsbjörg, landssambandi fatlaðra, um daginn og fékk samþykki þeirra til að redda upplýsingum um POIs í þeirra nafni. Þetta er ekki formlegt samstarf milli OSM og þeirra. En þar sem söfnunin gagnast OSM sérstaklega, þá datt mér í hug að redda sjálfboðaliðum héðan. Söfnunin er alfarið á mína ábyrgð og þeirra sem vilja deila henni með mér. Samkomulagið snýst eingöngu um að geta sagt að söfnunin sé á vegum Sjálfsbjargar og síðan fæ ég netfang til afnota hjá þeim til að senda út tölvupósta í tengslum við hana. Það er auðveldara að fá upplýsingar ef hægt er að tengja þekkt samtök við slíkar beiðnir. Síðan er auðveldara að kynna söfnunina sem hjálparverkefni fyrir fatlaða heldur en söfnun gagna fyrir OSM. Téð verkefni snýst um það að redda POIs og upplýsingum um þá fyrir OpenStreetMap og þær upplýsingar munu í framhaldinu rata inn á Wheelmap.org. Notendur Wheelmap, sem eru að mestu hreyfihamlaðir einstaklinga, geta þá á auðveldari hátt en nú merkt hjólastólaaðgengi hjá fyrirtækjum. Þær upplýsingar rata síðan inn á OSM grunninn þar sem gagnaskiptin eru tvíátta. Ef staðurinn er ekki inn á Wheelmap þarf viðkomandi einstaklingur að setja hann inn sjálfur en það getur verið nokkuð erfitt fyrir hreyfihamlaðan einstakling. Hann gæti þá frekar valið að sleppa því að setja inn þær upplýsingar ef hann getur ekki gert það án mikils erfiðis. Fyrsta skrefið væri að gera nokkurn veginn það sem ég gerði í Hafnarfirði, s.s. að ganga um með síma og taka myndir af upplýsingum. Myndirnar eru taggaðar með GPS staðsetningu svo augljóst er hvar þær voru teknar. Með þær að vopni er hægt að setja inn POIs á OSM ásamt þeim upplýsingum sem eru utan á byggingunum. Prufusvæðið fyrir þetta ákveðna verkefni er Laugavegurinn frá Hlemmi og að Lækjargötu; Þá þarf ég sjálfboðaliða til að taka myndir hinu megin við götuna. Mig langar ekki að vera stöðugt á ferðinni yfir götuna og því þætti mér betra ef einhver annar væri með í þessu. Eftir þessa upplýsingaöflun reyni ég að púsla þessum upplýsingum saman og setja þau öll inn á réttan stað í OSM ásamt öðrum upplýsingum sem náðust myndir af. Þá kemur að hluta Sjálfsbjargar en ég fæ afnot af netfangi undir þeirra léni til að senda út tölvupósta til allra þessara fyrirtækja (þar sem netfang liggur fyrir) og biðja þau um að staðfesta upplýsingarnar og bæta við þeim upplýsingum sem á vantar. Ef engin rafræn leið er í boði fá þau fyrirtæki heimsókn frá okkur til að gera þetta á pappír. Þriðji parturinn, eftir að allt hitt er búið, eða að mestu, er að taka létta ferð um svæðið og merkja þá staði með rauðu sem augljósast er að vantar aðgengið. Þá er svæðið búið og hægt að fara yfir á það næsta. Hver vill aðstoða mig með þetta? Mig langar að stefna á að hefja ljósmyndunarpartinn næsta laugardag eða sunnudag. Áætla lauslega að ljósmyndunarhlutinn gæti tekið um 2 klst. ef ég fæ einn sjálfboðaliða. Hver hefur tíma þá til að hjálpa mér? Með kveðju, Svavar Kjarrval signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is
[Talk-de] Best of OSM-Websiete
Hallo, die Best-of-OSM-Seite soll mal ein bisschen ueberarbeitet werden - altes Zeugs rauswerfen, neues aufnehmen, und vorallem auch mal wieder ein schoenes neues Poster machen. Ich habe jemanden in der Geofabrik. der die Arbeit machen kann, aber wenn ihr noch Ideen habt, was man auf bestofosm.org vorstellen sollte (oder auch sonstige Verbesserungsvorschlaege fuer die Seite allgemein, wobei ich aber nicht versprechen kann, dass alles gleich sofort umgesetzt wird...) dann meldet Euch doch mal zu Wort! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Best of OSM-Websiete
Hallo Frederik, Frankfurter Flughafen wäre vielleicht was zum Zeigen: http://bestofosm.org/?type=mapniklon=8.56181lat=50.03969zoom=14 On 11/02/12 13:25, Frederik Ramm wrote: der die Arbeit machen kann, aber wenn ihr noch Ideen habt, was man auf bestofosm.org vorstellen sollte (oder auch sonstige -- Viele Grüße Carsten ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Best of OSM-Websiete
Hallo Frederik, allgemein könntet ihr Tiles@Home entfernen. Gilt auch für den OSM-Inspector und dem Tool Map auf eurer Seite. Henning ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Best of OSM-Websiete
Palatin in Rom? Ist halt die Frage, was best ist, z.B. das taggen von jedem Stein als Building kann man ja durchaus in Frage stellen, wobei andererseits auch eine hohe Linkdichte zu Wikipedia vorhanden ist. Generell kann man vieles (z.B. interessante Tags und Relationen, Datenkonzepte etc.) vom Besten im standard mapnik rendering sowieso kaum erkennen. Gruß Martin http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.8891lon=12.48698zoom=16layers=M ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Best of OSM-Websiete
Am 02/nov/2012 um 13:46 schrieb Carsten Schwede computerte...@gmx.de: Frankfurter Flughafen wäre vielleicht was zum Zeigen: +1 Auch der neue Skandalflughafen in Berlin ist ausführlich gemappt, obwohl noch nicht in Betrieb Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Best of OSM-Websiete
Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de wrote: allgemein könntet ihr Tiles@Home entfernen. Zum Beispiel einfach durch den deutschen Kartenstil ersetzen :) Sven -- Every time you use Google, you're using a Linux machine (Chris DiBona, a programs manager for Google) /me is giggls@ircnet, http://sven.gegg.us/ on the Web ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Wasserpfeifen Lounge taggen
Hallo zusammen, hat hier schon mal jemand eine Shisha Lounge eingetragen? Shisha = Wasserpfeife Meist ein Zwischending aus Cafe und Bar plus Konsumierung von Wasserpfeifen. Beispiele wären schön. Grüße René ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] wie machen die das?
Hallo, ein guter Freund von mir OSer mit Leib und Seele, seine Frau eine Bienenfreundin kommt zu mir und klagt http://www.friendsofthebees.org/bee-friendly-zones-map/ Warum kann ich das nicht mit OSM haben? Hat jemand eine Antwort für mich? Danke und schönes WE aus dem Saargebiet -- ## Manfred ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] wie machen die das?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo, ein guter Freund von mir OSer mit Leib und Seele, seine Frau eine Bienenfreundin kommt zu mir und klagt http://www.friendsofthebees.org/bee-friendly-zones-map/ Warum kann ich das nicht mit OSM haben? Hat jemand eine Antwort für mich? Sowas in der Art hat Simone Cortesi für die AirQualityEgg community gebaut: http://maps.cortesi.com/aqe-where-are-they-going-to-be.html Liebe Grüße Benjamin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQk+VZAAoJEIOT6OPgwwXBoIoQALk27pBKmSjk7w+0nzr5924T 0oBT5McCcYVXvWzUzotDZHnCa2nHtL5X+L2hTGxBHzA8Y5c/ef3Mc9STdsUmGrTE S1A6KToc8kbIXzNJnfIsj/uefJmLrbVZAWgbdIz3tmZF+uDFs1Xydbj41rZBgfq9 aCktdCQ5K01AIy3Hv1A8VDdGKmalNi3/H16Ssg527LNAU/QapGlW/FcbSP8xZldK 6qw0gvPFwQI/CLEGD6hM4Rm2oaFxagbAyYt/IbryP3J4J/EqBDc22RmAONbwDGD6 HS5vY55hBAnkdoCAWuyAiTl7M3CPh8QGtUG6+Ekv7CDUvOLYueh5tNzScchphD+w xicf362s3i3zrNvQspYxihmO3cmrT8g3AohaDJoy3cjmoroBTpK/Q6tpLKu4wSGY PrruUF4hC7DkzAERpXKINYhitboolBHz5RdPzVoHSXZ+yV9KFlrmDflT0csbgrTa KYev2DHDN8vq9z9Jlo7kiyI2+xDlOEkDjCYqfVDkwcoYD8CzeeXelv91B6F5YSMB jggCuJgPMl8Yt6zgYRh1tfQRh14mqJHIZda4AZqSFrvN70cZBTOPzziCFSdxX3R5 5Bk+herveh9k1M8YNBQXV3q8Zbj75AI0IYV6B9QR/Pn9tdRT/7VuC3c/yPCBU8t1 WwlR4xPC7p9/IOZqu+2P =+vHE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Poster - war Best of OSM-Websiete
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hallo, die Best-of-OSM-Seite soll mal ein bisschen ueberarbeitet werden - altes Zeugs rauswerfen, neues aufnehmen, und vorallem auch mal wieder ein schoenes neues Poster machen. Weil das Thema Poster gerade auftaucht: Hat jemand Erfahrung damit, Kartenausschnitte gorssformatig drucken zu lassen? Wir hatten das in der Niederbayern-ML mal diskutiert, ob nicht evtl. das Rad/Wanderwegenetzt hier in der Gegend als Plakat eine praktische Sache und Werbung fuer OSM waere. Konkret folgender Ausschnitt: http://hikebikemap.de/?zoom=14lat=48.56626lon=12.08945layers=BTTFTF Koennte man dann bei Gemeinden, Biergaerten, Sportvereinen etc. aufhaengen. Die Frage ist, auf welche Groesse man sowas drucken lassen kann sodass es noch gut aussieht. DIN-A0 waere schoen. Geht sowas? Ich war damals beim Erstellen unseres lokalisierten Flyers aber schon ueberrascht, welche hohe Aufloeung man bei Printmedien braucht, und dann kommen da auch ganz schoene Datenmengen zusammen. Danke fuer jegliche Vorschlaege - Alex. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Best of OSM-Website
Am 02.11.2012 15:21, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Auch der neue Skandalflughafen in Berlin ist ausführlich gemappt, obwohl noch nicht in Betrieb Der gehört eher auf die Worst-of-OSM-Website: - falsche Tags (Flächen der Rollwege als aeroway=apron, ehemalige Pisten als aeroway=runway ohne abandoned oder disused) - viele falsche landuse-Flächen (industrial für den Tower, maedow zwischen den Rollwegen, brownfield für optionale Erweiterungen) - viele Objekte mit sinnlosen layer-Tags (runway mit layer=5, Flächen der Rollwege mit layer=-1) - viele Beschreibungen im name-Tag (Flughafen Berlin Brandenburg (Eröffnung 27.10.2013), Betriebsstraße, ehem. RWY 14/32) - nicht mehr bestehende Objekte mit abandoned=yes (Selchower Flutgraben) Wir könnten für die Mapper, die bunte Flächen malen und beschriften wollen, Tags wie map_colour, map_layer, map_text, etc. einführen, damit landuse, layer und name nicht dafür missbraucht werden. Viele Grüße Stephan ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Riduzione delle province
2012/11/1 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: Il giorno 01 novembre 2012 17:26, Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto lorenzetto.l...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2012/11/1 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: In seguito all'approvazione del decreto-legge [1], il Consiglio dei Ministri ha reso definitivo il provvedimento sulla riduzione delle Province. Secondo voi, quale sarà il momento migliore per introdurre le modifiche in OSM? Assolutamente quando il decreto sarà operativo, cioè a cose definitive e operative. Da qui all'entrata in vigore cambieranno un miliardo di cose Ecco - cosa significa operativo secondo te? Trattandosi di un decreto legislativo del Consiglio dei Ministri, esso È operativo oggi stesso, per sei mesi dalla data di approvazione. Entro i sei mesi dovrò essere ratificato dal Parlamento con l'emanazione di una legge normale. Sempre che la Corte Costituzionale non accolga gli appelli e non lo renda nullo in quanto incostituzionale. Operativo intendo quando saranno visibili gli effetti, cioè il momento in cui gli enti vengono effettivamente accorpati. Ora è operativo secondo quel che dici, ma non ha alcun effetto reale: per esempio, io lavoro per la provincia di Treviso ancora, e non per quella di Padova :-) (giusto per fare i pignoli Decreto Legge, non legislativo, il governo non ha ricevuto delega dal parlamento per sostituirsi nelle sue attività) Ciao ciao Luca -- E' assurdo impiegare gli uomini di intelligenza eccellente per fare calcoli che potrebbero essere affidati a chiunque se si usassero delle macchine Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz, Filosofo e Matematico (1646-1716) Internet è la più grande biblioteca del mondo. Ma il problema è che i libri sono tutti sparsi sul pavimento John Allen Paulos, Matematico (1945-vivente) Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto, http://www.remixtj.net , lorenzetto.l...@gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Riduzione delle province
Potrebbe essere interessante utilizzare un tag apposito per visualizzare già da adesso le modifiche che sono proposte dal Decreto Legge. Data l'enorme interesse che ha suscitato, avere una mappa già da adesso che colga le differenze ante DL e post DL potrebbe essere un punto a favore di OSM. Che ne dite? Fattibile? Il giorno 02 novembre 2012 10:12, Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto lorenzetto.l...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2012/11/1 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: Il giorno 01 novembre 2012 17:26, Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto lorenzetto.l...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2012/11/1 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: In seguito all'approvazione del decreto-legge [1], il Consiglio dei Ministri ha reso definitivo il provvedimento sulla riduzione delle Province. Secondo voi, quale sarà il momento migliore per introdurre le modifiche in OSM? Assolutamente quando il decreto sarà operativo, cioè a cose definitive e operative. Da qui all'entrata in vigore cambieranno un miliardo di cose Ecco - cosa significa operativo secondo te? Trattandosi di un decreto legislativo del Consiglio dei Ministri, esso È operativo oggi stesso, per sei mesi dalla data di approvazione. Entro i sei mesi dovrò essere ratificato dal Parlamento con l'emanazione di una legge normale. Sempre che la Corte Costituzionale non accolga gli appelli e non lo renda nullo in quanto incostituzionale. Operativo intendo quando saranno visibili gli effetti, cioè il momento in cui gli enti vengono effettivamente accorpati. Ora è operativo secondo quel che dici, ma non ha alcun effetto reale: per esempio, io lavoro per la provincia di Treviso ancora, e non per quella di Padova :-) (giusto per fare i pignoli Decreto Legge, non legislativo, il governo non ha ricevuto delega dal parlamento per sostituirsi nelle sue attività) Ciao ciao Luca -- E' assurdo impiegare gli uomini di intelligenza eccellente per fare calcoli che potrebbero essere affidati a chiunque se si usassero delle macchine Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz, Filosofo e Matematico (1646-1716) Internet è la più grande biblioteca del mondo. Ma il problema è che i libri sono tutti sparsi sul pavimento John Allen Paulos, Matematico (1945-vivente) Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto, http://www.remixtj.net , lorenzetto.l...@gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- *«La mente è come un paracadute. Funziona solo se si apre.»* * * -- *Be GREEN and keep it on your SCREEN!* --Ai sensi del Decreto Legislativo n. 196 del 30 giugno 2003 (Codice Privacy) si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservarte e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola le fosse pervenuto per errore, la prego di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandomene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie. This message, for the Italian Legislative Decree No. 196 of 30th June 2003 (Privacy Code), may contain confidential and/or privileded information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information here in. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Riduzione delle province
Il giorno 02 novembre 2012 10:19, Matteo Quatrida matteo.quatr...@gmail.com ha scritto: Potrebbe essere interessante utilizzare un tag apposito per visualizzare già da adesso le modifiche che sono proposte dal Decreto Legge. Data l'enorme interesse che ha suscitato, avere una mappa già da adesso che colga le differenze ante DL e post DL potrebbe essere un punto a favore di OSM. Che ne dite? Fattibile? Sì, ma dovrebbe essere un'applicazione a farlo, non si dovrebbero taggare queste modifiche in OSM secondo me. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Riduzione delle province
Personalmente lo farei solo una volta che saranno ridotte per davvero... Ciao Cristian Il 01/11/2012 14:47, Simone Saviolo ha scritto: In seguito all'approvazione del decreto-legge [1], il Consiglio dei Ministri ha reso definitivo il provvedimento sulla riduzione delle Province. Secondo voi, quale sarà il momento migliore per introdurre le modifiche in OSM? Senz'altro non lo farei ora, visto che c'è ancora un ricorso alla Corte Costituzionale in attesa di sentenza. Ciao, Simone [1] http://www.governo.it/Governo/ConsiglioMinistri/testo_int.asp?d=69636 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Riduzione delle province
Il 02/11/2012 14:37, Cristian Testa ha scritto: Personalmente lo farei solo una volta che saranno ridotte per davvero... Ciao Cristian +1 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Riduzione delle province
Am 02/nov/2012 um 10:19 schrieb Matteo Quatrida matteo.quatr...@gmail.com: Potrebbe essere interessante utilizzare un tag apposito per visualizzare già da adesso le modifiche che sono proposte dal Decreto Legge. Data l'enorme interesse che ha suscitato, avere una mappa già da adesso che colga le differenze ante DL e post DL potrebbe essere un punto a favore di OSM. Che ne dite? Fattibile? Credo Che la mappa la puoi già fare, non c'è bisogno di un tagging particolare Ciao, Martin___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Dubbio relazione boundary
Ciao a tutti, sstemando i confini comunali della provincia di Venezia sono incappato in una situazione mai affrontata prima: il comune di Caorle è attraversato da una lingua di terra ricadente sotto l'amministrazione di un altro comune (San Stino di Livenza) vedendo il suo territorio diviso in due metà totalmente dal punto di vista fisico [1]. Come gestire la situazione? Due relazioni distinte sotto una relazione madre? Ciao e grazie Alessio [1http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Map_of_comune_of_Caorle_%28province_of_Venice,_region_Veneto,_Italy%29.svgpage=1] ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Riduzione delle province
E' forse un po fuori tema, ma questo credo sia un buon esempio di situazione in cui un concetto di dati storici nel database sarebbe utile. Una volta che le nuove province verranno tracciate, infatti, non ci sarà nessun modo per dire: fino al 2012 le province erano queste Il giorno 02/nov/2012 15:26, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: Am 02/nov/2012 um 10:19 schrieb Matteo Quatrida matteo.quatr...@gmail.com : Potrebbe essere interessante utilizzare un tag apposito per visualizzare già da adesso le modifiche che sono proposte dal Decreto Legge. Data l'enorme interesse che ha suscitato, avere una mappa già da adesso che colga le differenze ante DL e post DL potrebbe essere un punto a favore di OSM. Che ne dite? Fattibile? Credo Che la mappa la puoi già fare, non c'è bisogno di un tagging particolare Ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Riduzione delle province
Il giorno 02 novembre 2012 22:18, Andrea Decorte adeco...@gmail.com ha scritto: E' forse un po fuori tema, ma questo credo sia un buon esempio di situazione in cui un concetto di dati storici nel database sarebbe utile. Una volta che le nuove province verranno tracciate, infatti, non ci sarà nessun modo per dire: fino al 2012 le province erano queste A riguardo, oggi stavo leggendo questa pagina http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM-Historic e la ML correlata. Si stanno muovendo su questo fronte.. :) Il giorno 02/nov/2012 15:26, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: Am 02/nov/2012 um 10:19 schrieb Matteo Quatrida matteo.quatr...@gmail.com: Potrebbe essere interessante utilizzare un tag apposito per visualizzare già da adesso le modifiche che sono proposte dal Decreto Legge. Data l'enorme interesse che ha suscitato, avere una mappa già da adesso che colga le differenze ante DL e post DL potrebbe essere un punto a favore di OSM. Che ne dite? Fattibile? Credo Che la mappa la puoi già fare, non c'è bisogno di un tagging particolare Il problema rimane dare una rappresentazione precisa, tutti credo abbiano detto questa provincia va con questa, questa va con quest'altra, ma non si sono posti il problema del dettaglio a livello regionale/comunale... Se si taggano si potrebbero fare delle relazioni con state=proposed. Ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] SOTM 2013 and a tagging dilemma
Hi Everyone I'm meeting Birmingham Convention Bureau on Monday so I'll save a post to talk-gb until after then Also a tagging dilemma: the Water Orton sewage works has been tagged as landuse= industrial. I purposely didn't tag it as such but I was pretty ambivalent about it at the time. It smacks of tagging for the renderer and confuses the landuse with real industrial usage, even though it has industrial plant sited there. I've already contacted the user concerned because he'd tagged all the filtration beds as buildings, which I've changed to to man_made=filtration_bed. Regards Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-se] Ny träff i Lund
Göttigt! /Joakim On 2 nov 2012, at 12:01, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Nu har jag fått svar från britta. Vi kör 19.15 ikväll vid v stationshuset. Hoppas det finns några lurkers här inne som passar på att följa med också. Ska prata med essin, han sa att han kunde så länge det var på fredagen. /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone 2 nov 2012 kl. 01:36 skrev Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Går ju även att sitta på Glorias på fredag om du inte får tag i Britta. Lite ändrade planer har gjort att fredag skulle passa bättre för mig nu också. :) /Joakim - Original message - Ja, det är ju dags snart... Britta har inte hört av sig men jag ska kontakta henne i morgon och se till så att det blir av. Ska försöka få tag i henne innan 15 och skickar en statusuppdatering här om vi kör på på fredagen, annars får vi ta lördagen. /Andreas 2012/11/1 Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Ping pong, några uppdateringar? :) /Joakim On 31 okt 2012, at 08:07, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Jag vill gärna höra lite fler röster, för att se om det är värt att flytta på det till lördagen eller inte. Om det bara är jag, Joakim, Philip och Britta tycker jag gott att vi kan ta det på lördagen trots allt. Tänk dock på att Systembolaget inte är öppet alls på lördag! /Andreas 2012/10/30 Philip Olsson ols...@puffy.nu: Hej, Nej, det ser dåligt ut, möjligtvis så kanske jag kan vrida till så att jag kan dyka upp vid 22... Men det känns i senaste laget. / Philip 29 okt 2012 kl. 21:36 skrev Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Du kan absolut inte fredagen? 2012/10/29 Philip Olsson ols...@puffy.nu: Hej, Jag kan Lördag, både dag och kväll. / Philip 29 okt 2012 kl. 20:46 skrev Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Hepp hopp! Efter att ha tinat upp lite efter diverse äventyr ute bland nybyggandet i Hyllie så började jag fundera på vilket datum jag ska skriva in i kalendern och var vi slutligen ska träffas?! Lunds kommuns lokaler i västra stationen? BYOB+F (Bring Your Own Beer + Food)? Datum? /Joakim On 5 okt 2012, at 12:47, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Hej! Jag missade ju förra träffen i Lund, så jag tänkte att vi kunde ha en ny. Jag pratade lite med Britta Duve Hansen som är den som sett till att vi kan jobba med Lunds kommuns ortofoto i OSM. Hon ville också träffa lite osm:are och även berätta om hur det är att bearbeta kommuner och liknande för att få dem att bli samarbetsvilliga för vårt syfte :) Vi tänkte att allhelgonahelgen hade varit bra. Det är en av få lediga helger för min del, eftersom jag jobbar natt måndag-lördag och ibland även söndag. Mitt förslag är alltså att vi ses 2 eller 3 november, förslagsvis på samma ställe som förra gången (Glorias? hur var ljudnivån där?) Hänger ni på? MVH Andreas ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Ny träff i Lund
För att vara lite mer specifik kan vi ses på insidan av västra stationshuset vid Pressbyrån. /Andreas 2012/11/2 Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Göttigt! /Joakim On 2 nov 2012, at 12:01, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Nu har jag fått svar från britta. Vi kör 19.15 ikväll vid v stationshuset. Hoppas det finns några lurkers här inne som passar på att följa med också. Ska prata med essin, han sa att han kunde så länge det var på fredagen. /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone 2 nov 2012 kl. 01:36 skrev Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Går ju även att sitta på Glorias på fredag om du inte får tag i Britta. Lite ändrade planer har gjort att fredag skulle passa bättre för mig nu också. :) /Joakim - Original message - Ja, det är ju dags snart... Britta har inte hört av sig men jag ska kontakta henne i morgon och se till så att det blir av. Ska försöka få tag i henne innan 15 och skickar en statusuppdatering här om vi kör på på fredagen, annars får vi ta lördagen. /Andreas 2012/11/1 Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Ping pong, några uppdateringar? :) /Joakim On 31 okt 2012, at 08:07, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Jag vill gärna höra lite fler röster, för att se om det är värt att flytta på det till lördagen eller inte. Om det bara är jag, Joakim, Philip och Britta tycker jag gott att vi kan ta det på lördagen trots allt. Tänk dock på att Systembolaget inte är öppet alls på lördag! /Andreas 2012/10/30 Philip Olsson ols...@puffy.nu: Hej, Nej, det ser dåligt ut, möjligtvis så kanske jag kan vrida till så att jag kan dyka upp vid 22... Men det känns i senaste laget. / Philip 29 okt 2012 kl. 21:36 skrev Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Du kan absolut inte fredagen? 2012/10/29 Philip Olsson ols...@puffy.nu: Hej, Jag kan Lördag, både dag och kväll. / Philip 29 okt 2012 kl. 20:46 skrev Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Hepp hopp! Efter att ha tinat upp lite efter diverse äventyr ute bland nybyggandet i Hyllie så började jag fundera på vilket datum jag ska skriva in i kalendern och var vi slutligen ska träffas?! Lunds kommuns lokaler i västra stationen? BYOB+F (Bring Your Own Beer + Food)? Datum? /Joakim On 5 okt 2012, at 12:47, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Hej! Jag missade ju förra träffen i Lund, så jag tänkte att vi kunde ha en ny. Jag pratade lite med Britta Duve Hansen som är den som sett till att vi kan jobba med Lunds kommuns ortofoto i OSM. Hon ville också träffa lite osm:are och även berätta om hur det är att bearbeta kommuner och liknande för att få dem att bli samarbetsvilliga för vårt syfte :) Vi tänkte att allhelgonahelgen hade varit bra. Det är en av få lediga helger för min del, eftersom jag jobbar natt måndag-lördag och ibland även söndag. Mitt förslag är alltså att vi ses 2 eller 3 november, förslagsvis på samma ställe som förra gången (Glorias? hur var ljudnivån där?) Hänger ni på? MVH Andreas ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-ro] Cum fac sa pot sa deschid osm.pbf in Qgis ?
Total de acord cu Cristian, PostgreSQL+PostGIS este ceea ce ai nevoie.
Din ce stiu osm2pgsql are suport de PBF (va fi nevoie sa iei probabil
o versiune mai actuala si sa o compilezi din surse), asa ca nu e
necesara conversia la OSM.
Cateva cereri pe care le foloseam eu:
1. Total km de strazi
SELECT sum(ST_Length(way))/1000 as km_roads from planet_osm_line WHERE
highway IN ('motorway', 'trunk', 'primary', 'secondary', 'tertiary',
'unclassified', 'residential', 'service');
2. Total km de poteci, alei
SELECT sum(ST_Length(way))/1000 as km_paths from planet_osm_line WHERE
highway IN ('path', 'pedestrian', 'footway');
3. Total km piste biciclete
SELECT sum(ST_Length(way))/1000 as km_cycle from planet_osm_line WHERE
highway IN ('cycleway');
4. Numar total orase+sate
SELECT COUNT(*) as cities FROM planet_osm_point WHERE place IS NOT NULL;
--Ciprian T.
2012/11/2 Cristian Draghici cristian.dragh...@gmail.com:
Eu n-aș folosi QGIS pentru așa ceva - din experiența mea dacă încarci
cantități mari de date devine aproape inutilizabil.
Eu folosesc pbf2osm (acum inlocuit de osmconvert) pentru conversie .pbf la
.osm.
Și ulterior osm2pgsql pentru încărcarea OSM-ului în Postgresql/Postgis.
QGIS e foarte bun la vizualizări - poți încărca o parte dintr-un layer
Postgis filtrând pe baza de bounding box (ca atare folosind indecșii
spațiali din DB).
Postgis este mult mai nimerit pentru statistici, spre exemplu:
1/ Lungime drumuri primary si trunk in Romania:
roclc=# select sum(st_length(st_transform(way, 31700)))/1000 as km from
planet_osm_line where highway in ('trunk', 'primary');
km
--
17000.2828227466
(1 row)
Time: 458.829 ms
2/ Kilometri asfaltați in sectorul 1 București:
roclc=# select sum(st_length(st_transform(l.way, 31700)))/1000 as km from
planet_osm_line l, planet_osm_polygon p where l.highway in ('trunk',
'primary', 'secondary', 'tertiary', 'residential', 'service') and
st_contains(p.way, l.way) and p.name='Sector 1' and p.way l.way;
km
--
525.782711578516
(1 row)
3/ Câte farmacii pe metru pătrat sunt în București:
roclc=# select st_area(st_transform(way, 31700)) / 100 as suprafață from
planet_osm_polygon where name = 'Municipiul București';
suprafață
--
236.567216236954
(1 row)
roclc=# select count(*) from planet_osm_point p, planet_osm_polygon s where
s.name = 'Municipiul București' and s.way p.way and st_contains(s.way,
p.way) and p.amenity = 'pharmacy';
count
---
218
(1 row)
Time: 615.201 ms
roclc=# select 218 / 236.567216236954 as fkm2;
fkm2
0.92151399279959220279
(1 row)
Time: 0.443 ms
Salutări,
--
Cristi
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2012/11/2 Badita Florin baditaflo...@gmail.com
http://osm.stilpu.org/daily-odbl/ functioneaza iarasi perfect, iar pentru
acesta doresc sa le multumesc celor care se ocupa de el, si ofera acest
lucru frumos.
Dar eu am o intrebare mai de noob. Cum fac din osm.pbf un format
acceptabil ca sa il incerc in Qgis, sa pot sa ma joc cu datele.
As folosi direct extrasul shp de la geofabrik, dar acela nu este complet,
lipsesc POi-uri, iar din mailul pe care l-am dat au zis ca pt extrasul
complet trebuie sa platesc.
Ceea ce nu ma avantajeaza, eu vreau doar sa ma joc cu datele, sa mai fac
niste statistici, cati kilometrii au fost adaugati intr-o luna de zile,
niste reprezentari vizuale,etc :)
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[OSM-Talk-ZA] Cape Town Mapping Party Details - 4th November 2012
OSM Capetonians, Details for the mapping party this Sunday 4th Nov 2012: Meeting at the Wimpy at Westcoast Village in Sandown at 10:30 to around 11:30 for coffee and to divide up the area to map. Location: Wimpy, Sandown Road, Blouberg / Sandown GPS: -33.8048, 18.485 OSM Map: http://osm.org/go/kPdccgMhI--?m The MyCiti F15 bus stops right outside Westcoast Village. Walking Papers: http://walking-papers.org/print.php?id=h3fcql4b Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cape_Town_mapping_party_-_November_2012 Bring a GPS if you have one, else paper and a pencil. If anyone is able to printout a walking papers sheets of the area it would be appreciated. My Contact Number is 0791715426. I will be mapping using a bicycle and likely on foot too. Regards Grant ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Taggué un pont fermé à la circulation
Depuis, la préfecture a diffusé un plan de circulation provisoire le temps de l'expertise. Quelques soient les résultats, le chantier risque d'être long. Reste à prendre son mal en patience ! Merci à tous pour vos réponses. Nicolas Le 30/10/2012 19:38, Philippe Verdy a écrit : Vu le nombre limité de ponts à Rouen (les autres sont en centre ville, et l'importance de ce pont avec ses échangeurs d'accès, le chantier va être sérieux. Même si toutes les voies ne sont pas affectée, toux travaux destiné ne serai-ce qu'à renforcer la structure ou tester sa stabilité nécessite une fermeture complète : il n'est pas rare que l'ouvrage s'effondre pendant ces travaux. Ici à Niort il y a un peit pont qui est en travaux mais qui bizarrement n'a pas été fermé (alors qu'il est beaucoup moins essentiel à la circulation), je me demande si c'est sérieux quand l'ouvrage est en ce moment soutenu par une structure flottante (des caissons péniches) ! Une crue un peu plus importante (même si un bras partie a été mis à sec et détourné) et le vieux pont n'y résisterait pas En tout cas cela souligne un problème évident pour la traversée de la Seine sur cet axe majeur (axe Lille - Nantes), très utilisé aussi pour le trafic international de la Belgique ou l'Angleterre vers tout un grand ouest de la France (si on doit soulager le trafic par Paris). Hors de Rouen sinon c'est le Pont de Tancarville. J'imagine que ça doit être vraiment le bordel en centre de Rouen pour traverser la Seine par les autres ponts moins bien raccordés (avec des feux au milieu, des carrefours plus serrés et moins de voies). Rouen a toujours été un point noir de trafic depuis des décennies pour cet axe (ça doit faire au moins 30 ans que j'ai entendu parler du projet de doubler le viaduc ferroviaire pas loin au sud-est par un autre pont parallèle, quitte à remplacer ce viaduc par un double pont qui aurait aussi un passage ferroviaire). Le 30 octobre 2012 18:32, Frantz frz_ml_...@finux.fr a écrit : Le problème est qu'on a pas de date de ré-ouverture pour l'instant. Depuis le message précédent, j'ai vu une vidéo sur l'état du pont (1), le tablier semble s'être bien bombé, si c'est le cas entre réparations lourdes ou reconstruction (les 2 hypothèses envisagées par un représentant du préfet), ça peut varier entre 6 mois et plusieurs années. Donc je propose d'attendre un peu, mais si d'autres sont d'avis de mettre une date, je m'en occuperai. (un pont neuf, y'a un assureur qui doit attendre le devis avec inquiétude ;-) ) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] journées du libre à Lyon
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] OpenStreetMap cherche contributeurs pour cartographier La Réunion
Salut Christophe, Concernant le créole celui de la réunion (comme les autres îles) est différent. Par exemple, l'île Maurice n'est qu'à 1/2 heure en avion et pourtant là encore le créole n'est pas le même. Concernant le double affichage des rues il ne me semble pas que cela soit le cas. Souhaites-tu que je me renseigne ? Arnaud 2012/10/30 Christophe Merlet red...@redfoxcenter.org Je suis en train de faire des rendus OSM dans les différentes langues régionales françaises. http://tile.paulla.asso.fr/openlayers.html Sais tu si le créole est utilisé dans OSM à la Réunion et/ou en Guadeloupe, Martinique et Guyane ? Existe t'il sur place un double affichage des noms de lieux comme on peut le voir en Métropole dans différentes régions ? Concernant le commentaire du contributeur, il est surprenant. Manifestement quelqu'un qui n'a pas passé plus de 5 minutes pour comprendre comment OSM fonctionne. Librement, -- Christophe Merlet (RedFox) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Arnaud Vandecasteele SIG - WebMapping - Spatial Ontology - GeoCollaboration Web Site http://perso.crc.mines-paristech.fr/~arnaud.van_de_casteele/ http://geotribu.net/ http://www.i2c.eu/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Dedicated import account
Bonjour, pnorman sévit toujours, voici son dernier message. On notera l'effort de la traduction française. Mais dans la version anglaise il est question d'un éventuel blocage, mais pas dans la version française (heureusement que je ne comprends pas l'anglais) Je lui ai répondu comme mentionné sur WikiProject France/Cadastre/Import semi-automatique des bâtimentshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Cadastre/Import_semi-automatique_des_b%C3%A2timents#Demande_du_DWG_d.27utiliser_un_compte_sp.C3.A9cial_pour_le_transfert_dans_OSM Je fais pourtant attention de ne pas faire de gros imports mais certainement que mon groupe de modifications de c'était pas fermé. J'avais importé une ville plus grande Châteauroux et voila que je reçois avec une petite ville Vineuil ce genre de message. Avec la même méthode d'envoi par petit paquet. Le 2 novembre 2012 07:04, pnorman m-311070-3d3...@messages.openstreetmap.org a écrit : Bonjour Cavokld, pnorman http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman vous a envoyé un message depuis OpenStreetMap avec le sujet Dedicated import account : == Hello I noticed you conducting an import with - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13709003 The import guidelines require that imports be done from a dedicated account. These imports were not done from a dedicated account. I would suggest that the dedicated account - have a link to your main account for contact purposes and - have a listing of any imports you have done on it with links to the entries in the import catalogue Ignoring this and continuing to import from your main account may lead to a block. To contact me you can send a messagehttp://www.openstreetmap.org/message/new/pnormanor email the data working group d...@osmfoundation.org -- J'ai remarqué que vous avez effectué une importation avec les changesets suivants : - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13709003 Les règles actuelles sur les importations de données nécessitent qu'elles soient faites à partir d'un compte dédié (séparé de votre compte habituel), après consultation avec la communauté locale et être documentés sur le wiki. Vos importations n'ont pas été faites à partir d'un compte dédié. Je vous suggère que ce compte dédié - Dispose d'un lien vers votre compte principal à des fins de contact et - Dispose d'une liste de toutes les importations que vous avez fait avec des liens vers les entrées dans le catalogue importation Pour me contacter, vous pouvez répondre à ce messagehttp://www.openstreetmap.org/message/new/pnormanou envoyer un courriel à d...@osmfoundation.org Ps: Notez que je ne parle pas français et que ce message a été traduit par un autre contributeur. Pour toute remarque (en français) concernant mon message, vous pouvez prendre contact avec la communauté française ici : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Contact -- Paul Norman http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman for the Data Working Grouphttp://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group == Vous pouvez également lire le message sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/311070 et vous pouvez répondre sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/311070 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Dedicated import account
2012/11/2 Cavok cavok...@free.fr: Je fais pourtant attention de ne pas faire de gros imports mais certainement que mon groupe de modifications de c'était pas fermé. Non. La raison est uniquement la taille. Ce changeset semble atteindre la barre fatidique des 10.000 objets. La réponse du wiki est une possibilité parmi d'autres. Tu peux aussi choisir de te plier à la règle du DWG, aller jusqu'au clash, passer en mode furtif (avec des changesets plus petits) ou demander à quelqu'un d'autre de faire les uploads pour toi. Pieren ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Dedicated import account
On vendredi 2 novembre 2012, Cavok wrote: Bonjour, hello, pnorman sévit toujours, voici son dernier message. On notera l'effort de la traduction française. C'est moi qui lui est fait cette traduction pour qu'il puisse augmenter ses chances d'être compris. Mais dans la version anglaise il est question d'un éventuel blocage, mais pas dans la version française (heureusement que je ne comprends pas l'anglais) On s'est mal compris sur la traduction, je lui ais donc signifié qu'il manquait cette phrase et lui ais donc envoyé à l'instant la traduction complète. Mais tout ça ne change rien au fond, ni à mon opinion sur la question. -- sly qui suis-je : http://sly.letuffe.org email perso : sylvain chez letuffe un point org ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Dedicated import account
Bonjour, Je ne sais pas si cest une conséquence mais depuis plusieurs semaines le site http://download.geofabrik.de/openstreetmap/europe/france/ ne contient plus de buildings dans ses fichiers shp pour la France. Pour les autres pays, il y a toujours des buildings Amicalement Jean De : Cavok [mailto:cavok...@free.fr] Envoyé : vendredi 2 novembre 2012 15:05 À : Discussions sur OSM en français Objet : [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Dedicated import account Bonjour, pnorman sévit toujours, voici son dernier message. On notera l'effort de la traduction française. Mais dans la version anglaise il est question d'un éventuel blocage, mais pas dans la version française (heureusement que je ne comprends pas l'anglais) Je lui ai répondu comme mentionné sur WikiProject France/Cadastre/Import semi-automatique des bâtiments http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Cadastre/Import_semi- automatique_des_b%C3%A2timents#Demande_du_DWG_d.27utiliser_un_compte_sp.C3.A 9cial_pour_le_transfert_dans_OSM Je fais pourtant attention de ne pas faire de gros imports mais certainement que mon groupe de modifications de c'était pas fermé. J'avais importé une ville plus grande Châteauroux et voila que je reçois avec une petite ville Vineuil ce genre de message. Avec la même méthode d'envoi par petit paquet. Le 2 novembre 2012 07:04, pnorman m-311070-3d3...@messages.openstreetmap.org a écrit : Bonjour Cavokld, pnorman http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman vous a envoyé un message depuis OpenStreetMap avec le sujet Dedicated import account : == Hello I noticed you conducting an import with * http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13709003 The import guidelines require that imports be done from a dedicated account. These imports were not done from a dedicated account. I would suggest that the dedicated account * have a link to your main account for contact purposes and * have a listing of any imports you have done on it with links to the entries in the import catalogue Ignoring this and continuing to import from your main account may lead to a block. To contact me you can send a message http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/new/pnorman or email the data working group mailto:d...@osmfoundation.org _ J'ai remarqué que vous avez effectué une importation avec les changesets suivants : * http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13709003 Les règles actuelles sur les importations de données nécessitent qu'elles soient faites à partir d'un compte dédié (séparé de votre compte habituel), après consultation avec la communauté locale et être documentés sur le wiki. Vos importations n'ont pas été faites à partir d'un compte dédié. Je vous suggère que ce compte dédié * Dispose d'un lien vers votre compte principal à des fins de contact et * Dispose d'une liste de toutes les importations que vous avez fait avec des liens vers les entrées dans le catalogue importation Pour me contacter, vous pouvez répondre à ce message http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/new/pnorman ou envoyer un courriel à d...@osmfoundation.org Ps: Notez que je ne parle pas français et que ce message a été traduit par un autre contributeur. Pour toute remarque (en français) concernant mon message, vous pouvez prendre contact avec la communauté française ici : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Contact _ Paul Norman http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman for the Data Working Group http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group == Vous pouvez également lire le message sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/311070 et vous pouvez répondre sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/311070 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Dedicated import account
Le 2 novembre 2012 15:33, Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/11/2 Cavok cavok...@free.fr: Je fais pourtant attention de ne pas faire de gros imports mais certainement que mon groupe de modifications de c'était pas fermé. Non. La raison est uniquement la taille. Ce changeset semble atteindre la barre fatidique des 10.000 objets. ...passer en mode furtif (avec des changesets plus petits) C'est bien ce que je fais, mais cette fois la, mon changset est resté certainement ouvert englobant certainement plusieurs envois. Car je le fais par petites zones en vérifiant bien la zone, avec le cadastre en fond, en prenant le temps pour y corriger les routes et nommant les rues. ou demander à quelqu'un d'autre de faire les uploads pour toi. Ce n'est pas un simple envoi de bâti, il ne me viendrait pas à l'idée de le faire sans un travail d'exploration sur la zone avant. Et ça, je ne peux le demander à personne d'autre. Cavokld ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief
bonjour, sur la commune de st quentin les beaurepaire (49) , il y a un bief (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bief) . un habitant de la commune m'a fait remarquer que celui ci n'apparaissait pas sur OSM... parce qu'il n'est pas sur le cadastre. en fait ma question est multiple : - comment on tague ce genre de cours d'eau ? - et plus généralement, si je fais le tours d'un affluent avec mon GPS... comment je l’insère dans JOSM PS : j'ai rdv avec la personne concernée demain matin... -- Sébastien MEUNIER ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief
Le 02/11/2012 20:57, cybercen...@espacebaugeois.org a écrit : bonjour, sur la commune de st quentin les beaurepaire (49) , il y a un bief (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bief) . un habitant de la commune m'a fait remarquer que celui ci n'apparaissait pas sur OSM... parce qu'il n'est pas sur le cadastre. en fait ma question est multiple : - comment on tague ce genre de cours d'eau ? un bief est un canal qui amène l'eau à un moulin/turbine/etc. - waterway=canal -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief
Le 2 novembre 2012 21:50, Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net a écrit : un bief est un canal qui amène l'eau à un moulin/turbine/etc. - waterway=canal Là je pense qu'il faut ajouter boat=no, car la plupart des canaux sont justement faits pour être navigables, pas le bief, et je pense que c'est justement ce qui les différencie (au delà des questions de taille qui sont accessoires mais pour ça il faudrait qu'on cartographie les rives sur tous les canaux, et aussi indiquer la profondeur. Il y a d'autres types de canaux construits par l'homme qui eux sont navigables sur des embarcation légères : les « étiers » (qui amènent l'eau de mer à travers les marais, ou ont permis de les assécher. L'eau peut y circuler dans les deux sens, selon l'ouverture de vannes d'un côté ou l'autre et en fonction de la marée. Ce qui compte ici c'est la nature de l'eau : marine,même si les étiers recueillent ensuite les eaux douces de ruissellement par des fossés ou des drains. La plupart des cours d'eau qu'on voit dans les zones de marais en bord de mer sont des étiers, pas des cours d'eau classiques (qui ne sont en zones de marais que des rus qui rapidement s'arrêtent pour aboutir à des étangs d'eau très saumâtre). ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief
Le 02/11/2012 22:14, Philippe Verdy a écrit : Là je pense qu'il faut ajouter boat=no, car la plupart des canaux sont justement faits pour être navigables, pas le bief, A mon avis c'est faux ; le bief est la portion de canal entre deux écluses ; citation : Sur le Canal du Midi, Le bief le plus long est de 53,87 km entre l'écluse d'Argens (Aude) et les écluses de Fonserannes (Hérault) tandis que le bief le plus court est de 105 m entre les deux écluses du Fresquel. Le mot bief ne dit donc rien sur la navigabilité. Hélène ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief
Le 2 novembre 2012 22:14, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : Là je pense qu'il faut ajouter boat=no, car la plupart des canaux sont justement faits pour être navigables là je en suis pas vraiment d'accord, la très grande majorité des canaux sont pour l'irrigation (et/ou le drainage), et ils ne sont pas naviguables ... mais en tout cas vu que waterway peut être utilisé pour tous types d'usages, il faudrait effectivement ajouter également d'autres tags pour préciser. Je mettrais: waterway=canal service=water_power boat=no et éventuellement width= Sylvain ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief
Le 2 novembre 2012 22:45, Hélène PETIT h...@free.fr a écrit : Le 02/11/2012 22:14, Philippe Verdy a écrit : Là je pense qu'il faut ajouter boat=no, car la plupart des canaux sont justement faits pour être navigables, pas le bief, A mon avis c'est faux ; le bief est la portion de canal entre deux écluses citation : Sur le Canal du Midi, Le bief le plus long est de 53,87 km entre l'écluse d'Argens (Aude) et les écluses de Fonserannes (Hérault) tandis que le bief le plus court est de 105 m entre les deux écluses du Fresquel. Attention : ce qu'on nomme bief c'est une portion construite par l'homme dans ce qui et qui n'aurait pas exité et ne serait pas sous eau qu'il n'y avait pas ces écluses. Quand les écluses sont sur un cours naturel, les sections de rivière entre ces écluses ne sont PAS des biefs. Bref le bief est bien destiné à alimenter en eau, même si c'est pour mettre un eau une portion de canal : il renverse le sens d'écoulement naturel de l'eau ou le dévie de sa trajectoire naturelle, au lieu de le limiter (comme entre les écluses sur une rivière). Le bief est nécessairement artificiel. (Quand j'ai parle des étiers, la présence de l'eau de mer est naturelle à l'origine, même si on la canalise et qu'on en régule le niveau avec des vannes, mais ce ne sont pas des écluses pour autant ; si on prend ta définition, les étiers quand ils ont été aménagés par l'homme pour assécher les marais et réguler le niveau de l'eau pourraient être considérés comme des biefs, pourtant je pense que le mot bief reste réservé au détournement de l'écoulement des eaux douces pour qu'elles aillent sur des terrains où elles ne seraient pas allé ; ce qui n'est pas le cas des étiers où l'eau était déjà présente naturellement...) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief
Le 2 novembre 2012 22:45, Hélène PETIT h...@free.fr a écrit : Le 02/11/2012 22:14, Philippe Verdy a écrit : Là je pense qu'il faut ajouter boat=no, car la plupart des canaux sont justement faits pour être navigables, pas le bief, A mon avis c'est faux ; le bief est la portion de canal entre deux écluses Si tu parles d'écluses, tu dit navigabilité. citation : Sur le Canal du Midi, Le bief le plus long est de 53,87 km entre l'écluse d'Argens (Aude) et les écluses de Fonserannes (Hérault) tandis que le bief le plus court est de 105 m entre les deux écluses du Fresquel. Le mot bief ne dit donc rien sur la navigabilité. Bref tu viens de démontrer le contraire : le bief serait donc navigable ! ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Comment marquer les voies bus en site propre ?
Bonsoir, à Rouen nous avons des lignes TEOR, comprendre des bus circulant parfois sur route ordinaire, parfois en site propre, c'est à dire sans voitures, avec quais pour les arrêts, des marquages au sol au niveau de ces quais pour que le bus s'en approche au mieux automatiquement (guidage optique), et des feux spécifiques. Ces voies sont également (très) utilisées par les véhicules d'urgence, et il y a des discussions pour y autoriser les vélos et les taxis. Il y a actuellement 2 marquages en guerre sur ces tracés : 1) highway=bus_guideway / access=no / psv=yes (les 2 derniers sont redondants avec le premier je pense) 2) highway=service / access=no / psv=yes Le highway=bus_guideway me semble plus destiné à des voies physiquement inutilisables par d'autres moyens de transport. Le 2) me semble donc plus approprié, mais le highway=service ne me plaît pas trop. Et highway=bus ne semble pas exister. Que me conseillez-vous ? -- Frantz ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] probleme de bief
Bonsoir, Je ne connais pas trop les marais bretons... mais je pense qu'ils doivent être fait de la même manière que celui du Marais Poitevin: Pour ma part, les échelles de taille des cours d'eau sont dans l'ordre suivant: Fossé (waterway=ditch) Bief (waterway=drain) Conche (waterway=stream) Canal (waterway=canal) Rivière (waterway=river) Certains Biefs mals entretenus sont difficiles d'accès par canoé par chez moi... donc l'accès ou non n'est pas nessaire puisque dépend de l'entretient fait par le syndicat et/ou riverains. Seul les fossés ne peuvent etre navigable meme par mon petit canoé... Voila j'espère avoir répondu a ta question? Pour plus d'infos sur les cours d'eau je t'invite aller voir cette page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:waterway elle correspond plus à un schéma hydraulique général moins pour une zone de marais... mais avec l'échelle que j'applique on peut utiliser les tags déja utilisés. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/probleme-de-bief-tp5733900p5733921.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Dedicated import account
Bonsoir, pnorman à répondu à mon message: Mais cette fois ci, plus de partie française, bien que je lui avais signifié que je ne parlais pas anglais. J'aurai du lui mettre ma première réponse en français, ça m'apprendra de vouloir être bilingue ;) En fait, il en a rien à foutre de notre position, son but est de faire respecter des règles absurdes à tout prix, enlevez lui ses œillères. Et bien, il bloquera mon compte, et la oui, il n'y aura plus de suivi sur ce que j'aurai pu faire auparavant. Il faut que ces imports en masse puissent être suivis et répertoriés. Et bien en bloquant le compte, il aura tout gagné. Moi, à sa place, si ces règles fondamentales d'upload en masse étaient non respectées, je supprimerai cet import. Car cela ne sert pas à grand chose de bloquer un compte sans supprimer le travail du contributeur fautif. C'est bien l'import en masse qu'il est question, et si il met en péril la fondation même d'OSM, cela n'a aucun sens de bloquer un compte en laissant un travail mal réalisé laissé dans la base. Je vous laisse dans la délectation à la lecture de son message recopié ci dessous. Bonne nuit. 2012/11/2 pnorman m-311295-261...@messages.openstreetmap.org Bonjour Cavokld, pnorman http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman vous a envoyé un message depuis OpenStreetMap avec le sujet Re: Dedicated import account : == On 2012-11-02 13:24:56 UTC Cavokld wrote: I thank the DWG for the great work you are doing to solve conflicts, vandalism and copyright infringements worldwide. But I'm strictly following the import guidelines defined by the French community and documented here on the wiki ([1]). I've contacted the local community to verify that the rules didn't change recently. Since building strong local communities is always a high priority for the OSMF, I chose the rules defined and approved locally by the whole French community where a separate account is not required to watch, identify and fix French cadastre import issues, something that the local community is able to manage itself. As Frederik Ramm said ([2]), the rule has been defined only if the DWG has to clean-up the mess which is not the case here. That's why I decline your offer to create a seperate account and invite you to discuss it again on the talk-fr@openstreetmap.org or t...@openstreetmap.org list. Best regards, Cavokld 1. WikiProject France/Cadastre/Import semi-automatique des bâtimentshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Cadastre/Import_semi-automatique_des_b%C3%A2timents 2. [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal updatehttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-September/064412.html PS: Please note that I don't speak english and this message was translated by another contributor. This was not meant to be an offer; it was a polite request for you to abide by the import guidelines which override any local rules you might have in your country. The matter of separate import accounts for cadastre imports is under discussion and it is possible that there will be a resolution that does not require separate import accounts, but until such a resolution is in place, the existing rules continue to apply. You can choose to suspend your imports until the matter is resolved (which may take several months), or you can create an import account and continue your imports with that. I will have to block your account if you use it for any further imports at this time. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group == Vous pouvez également lire le message sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/311295 et vous pouvez répondre sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/311295 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Dedicated import account
Bonsoir, On devrait envoyer des messages à l'intention de pnorman pour lui signaler qu'il risque une suspension de son compte (si seulement on en avait les moyens démocratiques) s'il n'arrête pas d'abuser de sa position dominante, car l'import de données, quelles que soient leur nature et tant qu'elles ne sont pas de l'ordre de la dégradation du travail d'autrui, n'est pas incompatible avec les conditions d'utilisation que nous avons approuvées et qui font partie du contrat. Comment a-t-il été désigné pour occuper un rôle au DWG ? Teuxe Le 03/11/2012 01:20, Cavok a écrit : Bonsoir, pnorman à répondu à mon message: Mais cette fois ci, plus de partie française, bien que je lui avais signifié que je ne parlais pas anglais. J'aurai du lui mettre ma première réponse en français, ça m'apprendra de vouloir être bilingue ;) En fait, il en a rien à foutre de notre position, son but est de faire respecter des règles absurdes à tout prix, enlevez lui ses oeillères. Et bien, il bloquera mon compte, et la oui, il n'y aura plus de suivi sur ce que j'aurai pu faire auparavant. Il faut que ces imports en masse puissent être suivis et répertoriés. Et bien en bloquant le compte, il aura tout gagné. Moi, à sa place, si ces règles fondamentales d'upload en masse étaient non respectées, je supprimerai cet import. Car cela ne sert pas à grand chose de bloquer un compte sans supprimer le travail du contributeur fautif. C'est bien l'import en masse qu'il est question, et si il met en péril la fondation même d'OSM, cela n'a aucun sens de bloquer un compte en laissant un travail mal réalisé laissé dans la base. Je vous laisse dans la délectation à la lecture de son message recopié ci dessous. Bonne nuit. 2012/11/2 pnorman m-311295-261...@messages.openstreetmap.org mailto:m-311295-261...@messages.openstreetmap.org Bonjour Cavokld, pnorman http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman vous a envoyé un message depuis OpenStreetMap avec le sujet Re: Dedicated import account : == On 2012-11-02 13:24:56 UTC Cavokld wrote: I thank the DWG for the great work you are doing to solve conflicts, vandalism and copyright infringements worldwide. But I'm strictly following the import guidelines defined by the French community and documented here on the wiki ([1]). I've contacted the local community to verify that the rules didn't change recently. Since building strong local communities is always a high priority for the OSMF, I chose the rules defined and approved locally by the whole French community where a separate account is not required to watch, identify and fix French cadastre import issues, something that the local community is able to manage itself. As Frederik Ramm said ([2]), the rule has been defined only if the DWG has to clean-up the mess which is not the case here. That's why I decline your offer to create a seperate account and invite you to discuss it again on the talk-fr@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-fr@openstreetmap.org or t...@openstreetmap.org mailto:t...@openstreetmap.org list. Best regards, Cavokld 1. WikiProject France/Cadastre/Import semi-automatique des bâtiments http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Cadastre/Import_semi-automatique_des_b%C3%A2timents 2. [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-September/064412.html PS: Please note that I don't speak english and this message was translated by another contributor. This was not meant to be an offer; it was a polite request for you to abide by the import guidelines which override any local rules you might have in your country. The matter of separate import accounts for cadastre imports is under discussion and it is possible that there will be a resolution that does not require separate import accounts, but until such a resolution is in place, the existing rules continue to apply. You can choose to suspend your imports until the matter is resolved (which may take several months), or you can create an import account and continue your imports with that. I will have to block your account if you use it for any further imports at this time. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group == Vous pouvez également lire le message sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/311295 et vous pouvez répondre sur http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/311295 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] OSC会津への参加について
東です。 明日は13時頃に入る予定です。 よろしくお願いします。 翌11/4(日)のマッピングイベントの方もまだ若干余裕がございますので お近くの方がおられましたらぜひ。 http://atnd.org/events/33004 2012/10/28 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 OSC会津 開催の再告知です。 オープンソースカンファレンス2012 Aizu http://www.ospn.jp/osc2012-aizu/ 日程：2012年11月3日(土) 会場：会津大学 講義棟 M8・M9教室 OpenStreetMap Japan出展します。 朝から会場にいますので お時間ありましたらぜひどうぞ。 OpenStreetMapについてワイワイお話しましょう。 ライトニングトークでは東さんが「オープンなデータのライセンスとは」発表されます。 個人的にはハンディGPSログの比較デモできればと考えています。 6台ぐらいセットできるGPS台？作っていきますので比較されたい方は GPSご持参願います。 大学グランドと公園の間に四等三角点（震災で動いて改算）もあるので ご自分のハンディGPSで測ってみるのも面白いと思います。 --- On Thu, 2012/9/13, Takahisa TAGUCHI caes...@mbp.nifty.com wrote: たぐちです。 東さん、ikiyaさん ありがとうございます。こちらこそよろしくお願いします。 なるほど、、、そうすると会津周辺はロギングし甲斐のある場所ですね。東京より比較的近いですし、ちょうど紅葉の時期でもあるので、電車以外の方法で行って翌日周辺を巡るのもおもしろいかなと考えているとこです。 2012年9月13日 11:06 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 11/3参加いたします。宜しくお願いします。 現在、会津若松市内は高解像度Bing写真、基盤地図情報2500いずれも 公開されていません。GPSログと現地調査がメインのトレースエリアです。 大学はそんなに広くないので3日（土）のOSC開催中に 会津大学のキャンパスマッピングを 展示説明と並行して参加者とカリカリできればいいなと思っています。 たぶん時間はありそうなのでよいキャンパスマップできるかと思います。 （わからないところがあればちょっと見に行ってくるという感じで） http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.52376lon=139.93815zoom=17layers=M Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp wrote: あ、調整中ですが私も検討中です。 参加の場合はセミナーを申し込みたいと思っています。 東 2012/09/11 Takahisa TAGUCHI caes...@mbp.nifty.com: 田口です。 会津の件、参加申込書を送付しました。 当日参加される皆さん、どうぞよろしくお願いします。 2012年9月10日 18:02 loglogy logl...@gmail.com: 多分今のところ、参加出来ると思います。 皆様、SotMお疲れ様でした。 iPadから送信 On H.24/09/10, at 16:25, Takahisa TAGUCHI caes...@mbp.nifty.com wrote: 田口です。 現在参加募集中のOSC会津について、一部の人には SotM でご相談させて いただきましたが、私のほうで出展する方向で考えてたいと思います。 ひとまず申込書を送付しようと思っておりますが、現時点で他に参加できそう方は いらっしゃいますでしょうか？ 参加者数が少ない場合は、OSC北海道と同様に「小江戸らぐ」との合同出展に したいと思っております。 ＜OSC会津 開催概要＞ 日程：2012年11月3日(土) 会場：会津大学 講義棟 M8・M9教室 アクセス：http://www.u-aizu.ac.jp/access.html http://osm.org/go/7RuRWfuw-- http://goo.gl/maps/YjPw1 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] OSC会津への参加について
1000には現地入りしたいと思います。 でも、 紅葉がきれいなので、裏のほうから会津入りかな？ よろしくお願いします。 -Original Message- From: Shu Higashi Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:08 PM To: OpenStreetMap Japanese talk Subject: Re: [OSM-ja]OSC会津への参加について 東です。 明日は13時頃に入る予定です。 よろしくお願いします。 翌11/4(日)のマッピングイベントの方もまだ若干余裕がございますので お近くの方がおられましたらぜひ。 http://atnd.org/events/33004 2012/10/28 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 OSC会津 開催の再告知です。 オープンソースカンファレンス2012 Aizu http://www.ospn.jp/osc2012-aizu/ 日程：2012年11月3日(土) 会場：会津大学 講義棟 M8・M9教室 OpenStreetMap Japan出展します。 朝から会場にいますので お時間ありましたらぜひどうぞ。 OpenStreetMapについてワイワイお話しましょう。 ライトニングトークでは東さんが「オープンなデータのライセンスとは」発表されます。 個人的にはハンディGPSログの比較デモできればと考えています。 6台ぐらいセットできるGPS台？作っていきますので比較されたい方は GPSご持参願います。 大学グランドと公園の間に四等三角点（震災で動いて改算）もあるので ご自分のハンディGPSで測ってみるのも面白いと思います。 --- On Thu, 2012/9/13, Takahisa TAGUCHI caes...@mbp.nifty.com wrote: たぐちです。 東さん、ikiyaさん ありがとうございます。こちらこそよろしくお願いします。 なるほど、、、そうすると会津周辺はロギングし甲斐のある場所ですね。東京より比較的近いですし、ちょうど紅葉の時期でもあるので、電車以外の方法で行って翌日周辺を巡るのもおもしろいかなと考えているとこです。 2012年9月13日 11:06 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 11/3参加いたします。宜しくお願いします。 現在、会津若松市内は高解像度Bing写真、基盤地図情報2500いずれも 公開されていません。GPSログと現地調査がメインのトレースエリアです。 大学はそんなに広くないので3日（土）のOSC開催中に 会津大学のキャンパスマッピングを 展示説明と並行して参加者とカリカリできればいいなと思っています。 たぶん時間はありそうなのでよいキャンパスマップできるかと思います。 （わからないところがあればちょっと見に行ってくるという感じで） http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.52376lon=139.93815zoom=17layers=M Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp wrote: あ、調整中ですが私も検討中です。 参加の場合はセミナーを申し込みたいと思っています。 東 2012/09/11 Takahisa TAGUCHI caes...@mbp.nifty.com: 田口です。 会津の件、参加申込書を送付しました。 当日参加される皆さん、どうぞよろしくお願いします。 2012年9月10日 18:02 loglogy logl...@gmail.com: 多分今のところ、参加出来ると思います。 皆様、SotMお疲れ様でした。 iPadから送信 On H.24/09/10, at 16:25, Takahisa TAGUCHI caes...@mbp.nifty.com wrote: 田口です。 現在参加募集中のOSC会津について、一部の人には SotM でご相談させて いただきましたが、私のほうで出展する方向で考えてたいと思います。 ひとまず申込書を送付しようと思っておりますが、現時点で他に参加できそう方は いらっしゃいますでしょうか？ 参加者数が少ない場合は、OSC北海道と同様に「小江戸らぐ」との合同出展に したいと思っております。 ＜OSC会津 開催概要＞ 日程：2012年11月3日(土) 会場：会津大学 講義棟 M8・M9教室 アクセス：http://www.u-aizu.ac.jp/access.html http://osm.org/go/7RuRWfuw-- http://goo.gl/maps/YjPw1 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] Vespucci 0.8.0のテスターと翻訳者を募集中です
とりあえず埋めてみました。 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnpVHBDtFP0TdG1TZEVDU1V5aklEWmdEY2JBUlB3UGc#gid=0 アプリのメッセージを見ながらの対訳ではないので、おかしな表現があるかと思います。 Vespucciを本当に利用している方からの修正を望みます。 下り専門さんへ とりあえずアルファ版として動かしてみたいので、コンパイルして野良アプリにすることはできますか? 2012年11月1日 21:16 下り専門 kudarisen...@gmail.com: kudarisenmonです。 hayashiさん、ありがとうございます。 編集可能にしてあったつもりなんですが、間違っていたみたいです。 わかる方、レビューと追加をお願いします。 strings.xmlに戻す作業は私がします。 2012年11月1日 12:21 yuu hayashi hayashi@gmail.com: hayashiです。 編集可能な表に複製しました。 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnpVHBDtFP0TdG1TZEVDU1V5aklEWmdEY2JBUlB3UGc#gid=0 思いついたら、自由に記入できます。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[Talk-GB] Request: Norfolk Broads National Park Boundary
I believe that currently a boundary way or relation for the National Park of the Norfolk Broads is missing from OSM. I was wondering if any one in the East Anglia area would be up to the challenge of creating it? I assume the best way of creating a tentative out-line would be a manual conversion or trace from the OS Strategi product, similar to how the South Downs National Park area was mapped. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_National_Parks Sounds ideal for something to do on these long winter nights... Be Seeing You - Rob. If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Am 02.11.2012 06:01, schrieb Toby Murray: I assume we should target these activities towards mappers of medium or lower skill? We try to involve the community as a whole, which includes newbies as well as pros. One task I can think of doing is to find newer roads that weren't in the original TIGER data and adding them in, preferably in areas without active mappers. But I assume not many participants would be able to handle a whole county's worth of raw TIGER data for manual conflation. The TIGER 2012 road name tiles on the other hand might be a useful tool for this. Sounds interesting :) But please keep in mind, that people usually wan't to to contribute a huge amount of data. So the task should IMHO include a lot of basic tracing work (that can be done without special background knowledge) so people get satisfied with the results. Maybe for detecting/fixing thing the game aproach by Martjin's roulet is better? bye, Matthias Toby On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi US community, so now the details of the next global mapathon are fixed: It's called operation cowboy and covering the weekend *23.11-25.11* so every local team should have a fair chance to join in. Tomorrow I would like to announce it to the whole community, but some things are still missing. But as this is a community project, I need your help, as there is still a lot of work and of course you are the locals: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_cowboy 1. *Mission statement:* You should discuss, what people should do. Adding details is very general, but what is interesting? (buildings, landuse, ...) How can TIGER get improved without creating more worse data by strangers? We would need 2..3 sentences for motivation and a bigger text for the /join page. (TIGER catalogue see down). 2. *Target areas in tasking server:* Where should we work? Let there enough space for everybody to edit (last NOTLM was 200guys working) but keep in mind that we from the rest of the world, have no idea about US in general and where it might be helpful to add details (so everybody would pick a random place). Simon was kind to allow to use his OSM tasking server to manage the areas: http://rebuild.poole.ch You will need admin rights, so it would be great if 2..3 people would do this job of entering suggested areas (BTW should we now add a orga team tab for who is who?) 3. *Short TIGER problem guide/gallery:* Need a very short (people are lazy!) page about what’s usually wrong with TIGER. Using images only with Top5 bugs would be fine, e.g. so people learning fast that TIGER is usually bad placed and can be wrong for 10meter 4. *Further Imagery* Is there other or better imagery than Bing for certain areas? How can we promote this to the other volunteers? 5. *OSMF sponsoring* I already contacted OSMF Communications working group to see if the foundation would sponsor local parties to buy junkfood, drinks etc. (still no response) Last year the german FOSSGIS gave 50Eur (~65USD) for all parties (~5) which was very ok and a good motivation for local organisers. If this fails, could we get sponsoring by other companies (or would they like to cater a own local party and invite mappers?) 6. *More social media channels:* Can anybody start and maintain further accounts as facebook, ...? A logo will come if Ken returns at end of the week, but maybe you could start a skeleton so we could start promotion in 1..2 weeks. Personally I will put my focus on Twitter only (sorry lack of time). *Later stuff:* - Checking and translating final wiki pages next days - Announce to US media in 2..3 weeks - Creating a thank you-photo poster of all remote mapping teams - Creating a thank you video? Anybody with compositing/cutting skills? Ok that's the start. It would be very helpful if some of you would helping by coordinating some of this aspects. In every case I'm glad to assist you, but it's just to much for a single (foreign) person. I guess this will become fun :) bye, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
From: Matthias Meißer [mailto:dig...@arcor.de]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:51 AM
To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Hi US community,
4. *Further Imagery*
Is there other or better imagery than Bing for certain areas? How can we
promote this to the other volunteers?
If there is JOSM or PL2 should suggest it.
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps has a list of imagery. JOSM goes by
polygon and PL2 goes by bbox. Polygons are more accurate but you should be fine
in the US.
The main imagery source to be aware of country-wide is the USGS aerials. Where
I've examined them they're very well aligned although not always as high a
resolution. They should be suggested but
http://{switch:a,b,c}.tile.openstreetmap.us/usgs_large_scale/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.jpg
should work in JOSM.
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Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:22:35 -0400 From: o...@inbox.org To: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com CC: talk-us@openstreetmap.org; rich...@weait.com; d...@osmfoundation.org; g...@ir.bbn.com Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s) I'm not sure there is anyone *banned* from the lists. On moderation, maybe, but so long as the emails are eventually going through that seems okay. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:16 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: If I think I know who this is all about, maybe he should be un-banned from talk-us so he might be able to defend himself at least? --James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Anthony, I just got a message back from this person and he told me he was Forcibly unsubscribed from here on talk-us. That's pretty much a ban IMO. -- James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:43 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: Anthony, I just got a message back from this person and he told me he was Forcibly unsubscribed from here on talk-us. That's pretty much a ban IMO. We are talking about a pattern of behavior, not a specific person. There are several people who have exhibited this pattern of behavior, and we are discussing how we, as a community, want to handle this behavior. No one has made any specific accusations against any one individual, rather, we are discussing how to create a structure around that process. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
First, I think Martijn's points have all been right on. 1) I don't think it is a good idea to come up with a code of conduct as a response to particular cases. When there's an actual dispute on the table that might be addressed by an as yet imaginary code, we are in reactionary mode and it will be really hard to think outside that box and devise a code that will address future cases well. Also, it weakens the position of the arbitrator if all of a sudden a code is conjured up out of nothing and used to make a point in the arbitration. I agree entirely. As nerds (which I'm assuming many are), we enjoy the intellectual challenge of solving the general problem neatly. But that's a huge effort, opens up all sorts of issues, and distracts from the real question of whether a small number of individuals are egregiously not playing well with others. A detailed code would make sense if we had lots of people acting in ways that are near the edge of acceptability under the code, and we thought those people would adjust the way they act because of the code. From my experience, that isn't even close to the situation in OSM. Aside from the current discussion, I've only seen one instance of a mapper acting in a way that caused angst (when I considered myself a local). It was someone new, who was overenthusiastic about an import (of data that made sense to be imported). Basically he underestimated how hard it was to do right, but as the process went on he listened to people pointing out the problems, and he slogged through fixing it - and met others in person and talked about it. The map is better for this person's work, and I think all the rest of the locals agree. In this the person was 100% acting in good faith, we talked among ourselves, and we're all fine with how it came out. No code was necessary, and we didn't even think trying to talk to one, or about DWG. All that said, I think Richard's first draft at a code is entirely reasonable. Here's a normative statement that's trying to avoid being a code, but captures the top-level sentiment (point 2 is probably deferring to locals): Mappers should work collaboratively within the OSM community for the benefit of the map data, the tools, and the community. pgp5a7IRfqy1l.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] My personal Difficult USA Mapper situation update
In this specific case, I have been marking Texas frontage roads the same way you have, and it annoys me as well when NE2 changes this. I think, however, that it's more important to keep the data open and editable by anyone. There needs to be a better way to solve disputes like this, without imposing a blanket punishment on everyone, when the vast majority of us have done nothing wrong. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Sam Iacullo sjiacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, This email will be divided into two parts. The first contains specifics about the email that touched off the discussion about mapper issues, which I will call COMPLAINT'. If you want to skip this section for my opinion/commentary about the issue at large, you can scroll down to MY TWO CENTS COMPLAINT Since my personal situation apparently lit up a bit of a firestorm, I'd just like to bring to light exactly what happened in my situation. In the spirit of keeping this entire discussion public, my request for him to refrain from editing things that were already edited was such. On 2012-10-31 07:06:15 UTC homeslice60148 wrote: This is the second time you have ruined hours of work that I have put into my map with bots. Please, please, stop using bots, and stay out of places you don't live in and have no knowledge of. On 31 October 2012 at 12:00 UTC NE2 wrote: What the fuck are you talking about? On 31 October 2012 at 12:01 UTC NE2 wrote: Wait, you mean this? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/131637116 Why the hell would you use a secondary to get between a motorway and a primary? It's you that's ruining work by changing every frontage road to secondary. On 1 November 2012 at 22:26 UTC homeslice60148 wrote: From the Texas OSM wiki: Primary: A highway that is a main thoroughfare or links larger cities and that does not meet any higher criteria. Business route through cities. May be multi-lane and have a lot of business’. A very busy and important road. 55mph or greater speed limit except in urban areas. In rural areas probably has shoulders or breakdown lanes. This covers State Highways. Secondary: Urban arterials that connect to higher highway networks. Rural highways that connects smaller cities although may not be the most traveled route. Less busy than Primary with fewer business’. Blvd, Ave, most city thorough fairs, freeway feeder roads in urban areas, hard paved, striped, 2 or more lanes in each direction of travel, may or may not be divided and/or one-way, 45-55mph or greater. May or may not have shoulders. Grade crossings controlled by traffic lights with few if any stop signs. By this very specific definition, the very vast majority of access roads in Texas are secondary roads. I do not expect you to know this, since you do not live in the state, and from the situation we had together in January, you have not read (or have read and disregarded) the common practices of mapping in this area. The road level system DOES NOT mean that the road between a motorway and a primary MUST be a primary. This is nearly the exact same problem we had in January. For those who do not know, there was another issue we had together in January where NE2 went around the entire state Farm-To-Market highway system and used bots to delete a MASSIVE amount of information (some edits were so severe that he just left a ref number and a highway tag) with no regard to the standard of tagging roads as per the Texas wiki. That's where it stands as of this minute. Now that's gone over, time for MY TWO CENTS It is my personal opinion that the Open part of OSM is a double-edged sword. The ease of data entry and usage, along with the flexibility of the project as a whole are the core of what OSM is about. Since mapping with OSM involves following guidelines more than actual rules or laws, there is no system of punishment. Just to be clear, I am NOT advocating a system of justice, or laws, but there does seem to be a need for regulation. However, the more regulation and enforcement that are involved, the more restrictive the system becomes. Some of my ideas: -Gradually unlocking the world to new users (Since OSM is about mapping the areas we know best, start with a fixed radius around the person's home. This could involve a tutorial of sorts, such as, This is your street. Are the spellings correct? Is there a speed limit? Is it lit at night? Are there houses or other buildings? Are there addresses? etc. After a certain amount of time/tutorials passed, the amount of data, or the ability to delete data could be unlocked by the user? I would have no idea as to how to rank the validity of these new edits, but maybe linking them to a buddy existing user with experience? This would promote local community building, and improve not only the quality of the map, but the quantity. -Having a system of moderators based on areas of knowledge. (Say in descending order of power, Local resident,
[Talk-us] MapRoulette challenges wiki
Hi, I opened a MapRoulette challenges wiki page a few days ago and the ideas start trickling in: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapRoulette/Challenges (I just added the traffic signals one) Two things: 1) If you have an idea of your own, please add it, being as specific as possible. Bear in mind that the challenges should involve (potential) bugs that can be fixed without local knowledge, and that they should be machine-detectable (SQL based on osmosis snapshot DB schema appreciated ;) 2) Any ideas on how to prioritize these? A poll / voting system or something? -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
On 11/02/2012 05:43 AM, James Mast wrote: Anthony, I just got a message back from this person and he told me he was Forcibly unsubscribed from here on talk-us. That's pretty much a ban IMO. nerou...@gmail.com is banned from subscribing to talk-us. The archives are open, though, so anyone can at least read what's happening on here. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Awesome name.
Is the Thanksgiving weekend Nov 23-25 good for this? Fine by me, just wanted to
flag it.
FYI: Vitor George and myself will be running global OSM web casts for Latin
America out of Mexico DF and NYC in Portuguese and Spanish that very weekend
[1]. This is part of the Desarrollando America Latina 2013 event [2].
[1]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_at_Desarrollando_Am%C3%A9rica_Latina_2012
[2] http://desarrollandoamerica.org/
On Nov 2, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:
From: Matthias Meißer [mailto:dig...@arcor.de]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:51 AM
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Subject: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Hi US community,
4. *Further Imagery*
Is there other or better imagery than Bing for certain areas? How can we
promote this to the other volunteers?
If there is JOSM or PL2 should suggest it.
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps has a list of imagery. JOSM goes by
polygon and PL2 goes by bbox. Polygons are more accurate but you should be
fine in the US.
The main imagery source to be aware of country-wide is the USGS aerials.
Where I've examined them they're very well aligned although not always as
high a resolution. They should be suggested but
http://{switch:a,b,c}.tile.openstreetmap.us/usgs_large_scale/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.jpg
should work in JOSM.
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Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Am 02.11.2012 17:11, schrieb Alex Barth: Is the Thanksgiving weekend Nov 23-25 good for this? Fine by me, just wanted to flag it. Others pointed to this as well. I think as the US the only the target area, it's not that a big problem, as most contributors will be outside the country. On the other hand it's simply very difficult to find a good date for a worldwide community ;) Hope this will be anyway ok for the most of you. Later on, then comes christmas and so we would need to switch to next year... (bad for myself as I had to start my master thesis). goodbye, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Fw: [CrisisMappers] RE: Need maps of the Jersey shore
I see that they have added quite a bit more imagery, is there a way to view
the imagery as one merged layer, rather than having to add each separate
flight as a layer?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Some mapping requests starting to come in on Crisis Mappers. The Jersey
shore is particular is going to need remapping (destroyed beach front
structures)
Is there anyone supplying post-Sandy imagery that armchair mappers can
use?
NOAA has tiles from the National Geodetic Survey available (extracted
URLs from http://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/sandy/index.html, which
also should give you a sense of the coverage areas):
http://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/sandy/imagery/3052012flt1/tilefilter.php?z={zoom}x={x}y={y}.png
http://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/sandy/imagery/3052012flt2/tilefilter.php?z={zoom}x={x}y={y}.png
http://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/sandy/imagery/3052012flt3/tilefilter.php?z={zoom}x={x}y={y}.png
So far it's right on the shoreline; I'd expect more to be coming
online over the next few days.
Chris
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Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Not good for me; this weekend is for family in my case. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Am 02.11.2012 17:11, schrieb Alex Barth: Is the Thanksgiving weekend Nov 23-25 good for this? Fine by me, just wanted to flag it. Others pointed to this as well. I think as the US the only the target area, it's not that a big problem, as most contributors will be outside the country. On the other hand it's simply very difficult to find a good date for a worldwide community ;) Hope this will be anyway ok for the most of you. Later on, then comes christmas and so we would need to switch to next year... (bad for myself as I had to start my master thesis). goodbye, Matthias __**_ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ushttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John Novak 585-OLD-TOPOS (585-653-8676) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
On 11/02/2012 09:09 AM, Anthony wrote: Might this not be part of the problem? Why do we allow someone to edit but not to contribute to the mailing list? Doesn't that promote exactly the type of behavior that some people are criticizing (i.e. editing without discussion). No, I don't think so. These problems persisted during times when Nathan was fully welcomed to this list. His presence on the list did not help avoid or resolve them. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] MapRoulette challenges wiki
Added some context on the map roulette page [1] and tweeted [2]. Re: prioritizing: best ideas first? :) [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapRoulette [2] https://twitter.com/lxbarth/status/264437731965403136 On Nov 2, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi, I opened a MapRoulette challenges wiki page a few days ago and the ideas start trickling in: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapRoulette/Challenges (I just added the traffic signals one) Two things: 1) If you have an idea of your own, please add it, being as specific as possible. Bear in mind that the challenges should involve (potential) bugs that can be fixed without local knowledge, and that they should be machine-detectable (SQL based on osmosis snapshot DB schema appreciated ;) 2) Any ideas on how to prioritize these? A poll / voting system or something? -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Alex Barth http://twitter.com/lxbarth tel (+1) 202 250 3633 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Geography Awareness Week
I think this is an awesome idea. Are you just going to use Google Hangout and stream to youtube? If you need help on getting set up with this, let me know. It's easy. What's great with it hangout is that you get the youtube video for free http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU51Tfne9pEfeature=plcp - I am not sure whether the res is good enough for screencasts. On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Brian DeRocher br...@derocher.org wrote: Geography Awareness Week is November 11-17, 2012 http://education.nationalgeographic.com/education/collections/geographyawarenessweek My goal is to create a 20 minute OSM introduction / presentation to fellows geeks at my company about OpenStreetmap. I'd like to make this presentation in a way that it's re-usable to other people in other companies. Would anyone like to help? Has this been done before? Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org http://mappingdc.org http://about.me/brian.derocher ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Alex Barth http://twitter.com/lxbarth tel (+1) 202 250 3633 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Geography Awareness Week
Brian, Back in the day of the ambassadors, there was a pretty good presentation going around about the basics of OpenStreetMap. I know Kate Chapman and Tim Water have created a few presentations and put them up on slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/wonderchook/introduction-to-openstreetmap-7974442 http://www.slideshare.net/chippy/volunteered-geographic-information-and-openstreetmap There's also a decent intro from Steven Johnson floating around the internet somewhere: http://149.168.87.13/NCGISConference2011/presentations/Johnson_Steven_Fri_130.pdf We have been using the google hangout format for our meetings and semi-scrums, and it seems to be working well for us. Good luck! --- Jim McAndrew On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: I think this is an awesome idea. Are you just going to use Google Hangout and stream to youtube? If you need help on getting set up with this, let me know. It's easy. What's great with it hangout is that you get the youtube video for free http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU51Tfne9pEfeature=plcp - I am not sure whether the res is good enough for screencasts. On Nov 1, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Brian DeRocher br...@derocher.org wrote: Geography Awareness Week is November 11-17, 2012 http://education.nationalgeographic.com/education/collections/geographyawarenessweek My goal is to create a 20 minute OSM introduction / presentation to fellows geeks at my company about OpenStreetmap. I'd like to make this presentation in a way that it's re-usable to other people in other companies. Would anyone like to help? Has this been done before? Brian -- Brian DeRocher http://brian.derocher.org http://mappingdc.org http://about.me/brian.derocher ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Alex Barth http://twitter.com/lxbarth tel (+1) 202 250 3633 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
On 11/02/2012 01:11 PM, Anthony wrote: I don't get it. If the problem is that you don't like the way he edits, how is blocking him from the mailing list, but allowing him to edit, the proper solution? The times that I have moderated folks on this list it was for their behavior on this list. It had nothing to do with their editing except that the list discussions tended to have _originated_ from editing problems. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On 11/02/2012 09:09 AM, Anthony wrote: Might this not be part of the problem? Why do we allow someone to edit but not to contribute to the mailing list? Doesn't that promote exactly the type of behavior that some people are criticizing (i.e. editing without discussion). No, I don't think so. These problems persisted during times when Nathan was fully welcomed to this list. His presence on the list did not help avoid or resolve them. I don't get it. If the problem is that you don't like the way he edits, how is blocking him from the mailing list, but allowing him to edit, the proper solution? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On 11/02/2012 01:11 PM, Anthony wrote: I don't get it. If the problem is that you don't like the way he edits, how is blocking him from the mailing list, but allowing him to edit, the proper solution? The times that I have moderated folks on this list it was for their behavior on this list. It had nothing to do with their editing except that the list discussions tended to have _originated_ from editing problems. Moderation is one thing. Important messages can still go through, if someone is moderated. But in this case he apparently was kicked off the list completely. I'm not sure what behavior caused such a severe sanction, but if it was warranted, then the person shouldn't be allowed to edit either. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Moderation is one thing. Important messages can still go through, if someone is moderated. But in this case he apparently was kicked off the list completely. I'm not sure what behavior caused such a severe sanction, but if it was warranted, then the person shouldn't be allowed to edit either. Seconded. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Yeah, I will be in the middle of Nebraska with minimal, if any internet. But as Matthias points out, most participants may be outside of the US. I think it would be good to have a few US mappers available on IRC or the like to answer questions but that might still be doable. Hopefully if we can prepare well enough, there won't be too much hands-on help needed. Toby On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:15 PM, the Old Topo Depot oldto...@novacell.com wrote: Not good for me; this weekend is for family in my case. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Am 02.11.2012 17:11, schrieb Alex Barth: Is the Thanksgiving weekend Nov 23-25 good for this? Fine by me, just wanted to flag it. Others pointed to this as well. I think as the US the only the target area, it's not that a big problem, as most contributors will be outside the country. On the other hand it's simply very difficult to find a good date for a worldwide community ;) Hope this will be anyway ok for the most of you. Later on, then comes christmas and so we would need to switch to next year... (bad for myself as I had to start my master thesis). goodbye, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John Novak 585-OLD-TOPOS (585-653-8676) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] MapRoulette - Connectivity - TIGER tiles
There is often problems with them not loading for me. Usually just random tiles, but on a few occasions I just got nothing for a day or so. Dale On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: Martin thanks for giving us the maproulette for connectivity. It's fun when you have some time to kill or would rather NOT be doing _ (just fill in the blank) Most of the problems are just users forgetting to make a connection, but some times there are other problems that would be easy to fix if I could see the tiger data. But I'm having trouble getting the tiger tiles to load in either Potlatch or JOSM. I'm following the suggested format but I get nothing. JOSM shows http response code 502. I'm using the instructions at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TIGER_2011. Is anyone else having this problem. Thanks, Clifford ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Dale Puch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)
Martijn van Exel writes: 1) I don't think it is a good idea to come up with a code of conduct as a response to particular cases. Hard cases make bad law, yes. But it's not a difficult decision to say Don't change other people's edits unless you can show that they are editing in variance to convention or Don't change an edit made by a local person unless you have ground truth to show that they are wrong, and can present that evidence to anyone who questions your edit. But to come back to Richard Weait's original questions: Yes, I think the DWG should act on behalf of the US community here even though it seems to be a matter of conduct instead of a pure data issue. I agree also. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] MapRoulette - Connectivity - TIGER tiles
gunicorn (the wsgi that runs tilestache) has been having a hard time staying up lately. It seems to behave better when I spin up more threads to respond to requests, but that comes at the expense of database connections to the postgres server. I'll see if I can make it happier in the near term. In the long term I'll split out the long-running imagery proxying stuff so the fast local tile rendering doesn't get blocked. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote: There is often problems with them not loading for me. Usually just random tiles, but on a few occasions I just got nothing for a day or so. Dale On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: Martin thanks for giving us the maproulette for connectivity. It's fun when you have some time to kill or would rather NOT be doing _ (just fill in the blank) Most of the problems are just users forgetting to make a connection, but some times there are other problems that would be easy to fix if I could see the tiger data. But I'm having trouble getting the tiger tiles to load in either Potlatch or JOSM. I'm following the suggested format but I get nothing. JOSM shows http response code 502. I'm using the instructions at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TIGER_2011. Is anyone else having this problem. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
