Re: [talk-ph] routing problems in Pampanga area

2009-04-23 Per discussione maning sambale
Great work guys! This seems fixed. Although I did found other errors will help fix-up later. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: link:

Re: [talk-ph] laguna lake dried-up!

2009-04-23 Per discussione maning sambale
Laguna lake dried up again (is this a seasonal thing?) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.4lon=121.212zoom=11layers=B000FTF It looks better in osmarender though. Anyway, the area seems to have multipolygon relations for water. I fixed a few duplicate nodes but I'm not sure if that caused the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] naming tramlines

2009-04-23 Per discussione Ben Laenen
On Thursday 23 April 2009, Maarten Deen wrote: l...@xs4all.nl wrote: ah yes. Once again didn't think about the info that's included - but invisible - already. But which would need some work to be available to the renderer. osm2pgsql should take the info from the relations and 'flatten'

Re: [OSM-talk-be] naming tramlines

2009-04-23 Per discussione Luc Van den Troost
That's exactly what was my first posting about. I just noticed the result on the Poznan map and it looked nice and usefull. Though I 'know' that relations exist and what they are used for, I am quite unfamiliar with them so that was the reason why I didn't think about those in the first place.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Per discussione Russ Nelson
On Apr 23, 2009, at 2:42 PM, SteveC wrote: Has there been any discussion on what people here feel 'substantial' means in the context of the definitions of the ODbL? It's definitely substantial if somebody extracts something matching a single criteria, e.g. an entire state, an entire

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: If the extraction needs an automated tool, then it is substantial. Uh. This means that even the answer to the question what is the name of the street at lat=12.345 lon=45.789 would be a substantial extract because you cannot possibly peer through the XML to find

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 23 de Abril de 2009, Frederik Ramm escribió: Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: If the extraction needs an automated tool, then it is substantial. Uh. This means that even the answer to the question what is the name of the street at lat=12.345 lon=45.789 would be a substantial extract

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Looking at the area where I live, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=58.407lon=15.600zoom=18layers=B000FTF these buildings are 11 metres wide and not 22 metres as the scale indicates. The difference is explained by the latitude 58.4 degrees and cosine(60°) = 0.5. Maybe one year back, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Africa Road data import

2009-04-23 Per discussione Neil Penman
Hi Robert, Looks good.  Where did the UN agencies get their data from?  Did all this data originate from within the UN agencies through GPS traces or did they source it from somewhere else? Regards Neil --- On Thu, 23/4/09, Robert Soden robert.so...@gmail.com wrote: From: Robert Soden

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik weekly rendering after API 0.6

2009-04-23 Per discussione Joe Richards
Is the weekly Mapnik rendering process still running after the upgrade to API 0.6? If so, which day is it scheduled for? It will still occurs on Wednesdays. I have started off the import this evening so it should begin rendering the latest changes tomorrow. so it's normally on a cron

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Jukka Rahkonen
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldominguez at prodevelop.es writes: That is happening in Scandinavia with Spherical Mercator: Sweden is ridiculously large, but sorry, that's the way it is using that projection, so the scale bar is right. The problem is that the projection is not good for that

Re: [OSM-talk] Africa Road data import

2009-04-23 Per discussione Ivan Garcia
Hello Robert, thks for your contribution. While waiting for OSM to render your tiles, you can take a look to this one that has realtime rendering and compare it with Google Maps and Yahoo Maps layers to check ur data. http://sautter.com/map/ Best Regards. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 8:54 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Lars Aronsson schrieb: Looking at the area where I live, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=58.407lon=15.600zoom=18layers=B000FTF these buildings are 11 metres wide and not 22 metres as the scale indicates. The difference is explained by the latitude 58.4 degrees and cosine(60°) = 0.5.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Lars Aronsson wrote: Looking at the area where I live, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=58.407lon=15.600zoom=18layers=B000FTF these buildings are 11 metres wide and not 22 metres as the scale indicates. The difference is explained by the latitude 58.4 degrees and cosine(60°) = 0.5.

[OSM-talk] Placeopedia replacement

2009-04-23 Per discussione Mike Ryan
All I used to use a site called placeopedia that showed a map with Wikipedia articles located on it. http://www.placeopedia.com/ Quite useful if you're planning a route and you want to see interesting sights slong the way Is anyone aware of a similar openstreetmap replacment? Cheers Mike

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Jacek Konieczny
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:23:16AM +, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: not mean that these countries are twice as large in the real life. Scale bar values, if presented in meters/feet, should be adjusted according to latitude. Even then it cannot be correct for the whole map, but showing the corrrect

Re: [OSM-talk] Placeopedia replacement

2009-04-23 Per discussione Nic Roets
http://gpsies.com/ is not opensource and it defaults to google maps, but it has openstreetmap support, as well as many other cool features. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Mike Ryan mike.r...@redmar.com wrote: All I used to use a site called placeopedia that showed a map with Wikipedia

Re: [OSM-talk] Delay before the data is visible?

2009-04-23 Per discussione Steve Hill
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Jonathan Bennett wrote: It could be that you get no warning when the upload fails under certain circumstances. Hasn't happened to me on the latest SVN build, though. I noticed the exact opposite to this on Tuesday - JOSM thought the upload had failed, the OSM servers

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik weekly rendering after API 0.6

2009-04-23 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 23 de Abril de 2009, Joe Richards escribió: Out of interest, since Mapnik seems to process the entire world quite quickly, why is it not invoked when a tile is dirty, like osmarender? It is. Either a tile is requested in real-time (if it doesn't exist) or is queued if the tile is

Re: [OSM-talk] Delay before the data is visible?

2009-04-23 Per discussione Steve Hill
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: The renderers are delayed until the minutely diff are working again. There are some bugs there that need to be resolved first. Then there will be a delay of a few hours/days once the diffs come back up. Some curiosities/observations: 1. Is OSM now

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Peter Childs
2009/4/23 Jacek Konieczny jaj...@jajcus.net: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:23:16AM +, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: not mean that these countries are twice as large in the real life.  Scale bar values, if presented in meters/feet, should be adjusted according to latitude. Even then it cannot be

Re: [OSM-talk] Placeopedia replacement

2009-04-23 Per discussione Mike Ryan
Thanks Nic. That seems to be more for tracks. In it's simplest form, I'm just looking for a map with Points of Interest highlighted on it, ie, tourist attractions and things to see and do 2009/4/23 Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com: http://gpsies.com/ is not opensource and it defaults to google maps,

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Andy Allan
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote: 2009/4/23 Jacek Konieczny jaj...@jajcus.net: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 08:23:16AM +, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: not mean that these countries are twice as large in the real life.  Scale bar values, if presented in

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Donald Allwright
If you want it done right, then your scale bar has detatchable end points. You drag one end of the scale bar to one end of the feature, the other to the other, and then the scale bar warps itself into a great-circle curve and tells you how long it is. Which would actually be an incredibly cool

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Andy Deakin
If you want it done right, then your scale bar has detatchable end points. You drag one end of the scale bar to one end of the feature, the other to the other, and then the scale bar warps itself into a great-circle curve and tells you how long it is. Which would actually be an incredibly

Re: [OSM-talk] Delay before the data is visible?

2009-04-23 Per discussione D Tucny
2009/4/22 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk How large is the current delay before uploaded data became visible? My question is slightly different. I uploaded two changesets successfully earlier from JOSM (the third took over an hour so I clicked Abort and ended up losing my edits, so lucky there

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-be] naming tramlines

2009-04-23 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
-1. This would indeed be satisfying the wish for nice line labeling on tram lines in the short term. However, implementing this one-time might encourage others to just tag tram lines in this fashion and not even bother about the relations. You know how these things go, as soon as you start doing

Re: [OSM-talk] Africa Road data import

2009-04-23 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
Hi Robert, 2009/4/22 Robert Soden robert.so...@gmail.com: We've received several emails from folks wanting to help us in this process.  Now that we (think) we've got our feet under us, we hope to work with them as we process the remaining data. Wonderful job on the work with UN and the roads

Re: [OSM-talk] Any chance of getting RSS/Atom feeds for those changeset/history pages?

2009-04-23 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Getting RSS/Atom feeds for these seems to be the logical next step. (I prefer Atom 1.0 + GeoRSS extension instead of RSS 2.0, by the way.)

Re: [OSM-talk] Any chance of getting RSS/Atom feeds for those changeset/history pages?

2009-04-23 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Getting RSS/Atom feeds for these seems to be the logical next step. (I prefer Atom 1.0 + GeoRSS extension instead of RSS 2.0, by the way.) I assume that it'd be *extremely* easy to do

[OSM-talk] osmosis Problem with bounding-polygon and v0.6?

2009-04-23 Per discussione Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.
Hi, I try to cut the planetfile from 2009-04-21 using osmosis: ./bin/osmosis --read-xml-0.6 file=path/planet-090421.osm.bz2 compressionMethod=bzip2 --bp file=path/aoi.pff --write-xml-0.6 file=path/aoi_2009-04-21_v06.osm and get the error message: ... Task 2-bp does not support data provided by

[OSM-talk] New business strategy for Ordnance Survey announced (fwd)]

2009-04-23 Per discussione David Earl
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:37:16 + From: Jack Kirby jack_ki...@sky.com Reply-To: ordnancem...@yahoogroups.co.uk To: ordnancem...@yahoogroups.co.uk Subject: [ordnancemaps] New business strategy for Ordnance Survey announced A press release containing the

Re: [OSM-talk] Placeopedia replacement

2009-04-23 Per discussione Mikel Maron
Placeopedia is a project by mySociety, allies to OpenStreetMap. They've used OSM in the Time Travel Maps project .. http://www.mysociety.org/2007/more-travel-maps/ So, I'd suggest approaching them on one of their mailing lists and suggesting the change. Or I believe the code is open source, so

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Lars Aronsson
Jukka Rahkonen wrote: I believe also that the scale bar is not right. Distorsion is one thing, it makes Sweden (and Finland) to look visually ridiculous on the map, At the deep zoom levels (zoom=6 and higher numbers), Sweden and Finland don't look large, because you don't see other

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik weekly rendering after API 0.6

2009-04-23 Per discussione Joe Richards
Out of interest, since Mapnik seems to process the entire world quite quickly, why is it not invoked when a tile is dirty, like osmarender? It is. Either a tile is requested in real-time (if it doesn't exist) or is queued if the tile is old (via render_old). mod_tile is an amazing piece

[OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione SteveC
I don't see a clear explanation as to why there is ambiguity if you don't do turn restrictions at the end of ways on the wiki. There is some stuff in the talk page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:restriction Anyone care to provide an explanation? The reason I ask is

[OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Per discussione SteveC
Has there been any discussion on what people here feel 'substantial' means in the context of the definitions of the ODbL? I've banged around the wiki looking but might might have missed it. Here's the first important bit relevant to this in the ODbL: Extraction – Means the permanent or temporary

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione Teemu Koskinen
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:34:05 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I don't see a clear explanation as to why there is ambiguity if you don't do turn restrictions at the end of ways on the wiki. There is some stuff in the talk page

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione SteveC
On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:17, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:34:05 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I don't see a clear explanation as to why there is ambiguity if you don't do turn restrictions at the end of ways on the wiki. There is some stuff in the talk page

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione Teemu Koskinen
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:25:36 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:17, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:34:05 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I don't see a clear explanation as to why there is ambiguity if you don't do turn restrictions at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione Tobias Knerr
SteveC wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:17, Teemu Koskinen wrote: If both from and to ways continue after the via point and neither is one-way, there's two possible ways to interpret it: the restriction could apply when coming from either of the ends of the from-way. This of course doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione SteveC
On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:32, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:25:36 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:17, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:34:05 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I don't see a clear explanation as to why there is

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione SteveC
On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:34, Tobias Knerr wrote: SteveC wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:17, Teemu Koskinen wrote: If both from and to ways continue after the via point and neither is one-way, there's two possible ways to interpret it: the restriction could apply when coming from either of the

Re: [OSM-talk] osmosis Problem with bounding-polygon and v0.6?

2009-04-23 Per discussione Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V.
hi karl, ./bin/osmosis --read-xml-0.6 file=path/planet-090421.osm.bz2 compressionMethod=bzip2 --bounding-polygon-0.6 file=path/aoi.pff --write-xml-0.6 file=path/aoi_2009-04-21_v06.osm gives (almost) the same error as pure v0.5: Unable to parse xml file path/planet-090421.osm.bz2.

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione David Lynch
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 14:45, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 14:25, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: If both from and to ways continue after the via point and neither is one-way, there's two possible ways to interpret it: the restriction could apply when

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
2009/4/23 SteveC st...@asklater.com: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:32, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:25:36 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:17, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:34:05 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I don't see a

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione Tobias Knerr
SteveC schrieb: Ok so in that case... why don't we make best practice to split your way A in to two directions, rather than hundreds of little ways? You mean something like that ^A1 |A2 | | | | | | B ---*-*-- | | | | | v with

Re: [OSM-talk] osmosis Problem with bounding-polygon and v0.6?

2009-04-23 Per discussione Karl Newman
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V. marco.lech...@fossgis.de wrote: hi karl, ./bin/osmosis --read-xml-0.6 file=path/planet-090421.osm.bz2 compressionMethod=bzip2 --bounding-polygon-0.6 file=path/aoi.pff --write-xml-0.6 file=path/aoi_2009-04-21_v06.osm gives

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione David Earl
If one were to refer to nodes on the two ways instead of the way itself, it would remove the ambiguity wouldn't it? Albeit more complicated for the consumer to work out, in that it would have to decide which way the two nodes were on. |A *a | c| b

Re: [OSM-talk] Wrong scale in slippy map

2009-04-23 Per discussione Yann Coupin
But this is not flawless. For instance here it's as if Canada was 200km wide and Europe Asia combined 300 miles wide. http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=87.797228,-38.671875spn=51.090044,360z=1 Yann Le 23 avr. 09 à 16:23, Lars Aronsson a écrit : Google Maps shows the correct scale and it

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:56:09 +0200, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/23 SteveC st...@asklater.com: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:32, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:25:36 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:17, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
2009/4/23 Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) skipp...@gimnechiske.org: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:56:09 +0200, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Or something like this is common: B  C  \  |   \ |    \|     |     |     A where the straight line is considered a turn even though it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione Tobias Knerr
David Earl schrieb: If one were to refer to nodes on the two ways instead of the way itself, it would remove the ambiguity wouldn't it? There was a proposal that suggested exactly that, xrestriction: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Relation:xrestriction Hasn't been used a lot.

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 23 Apr 2009, at 22:56, andrzej zaborowski wrote: 2009/4/23 SteveC st...@asklater.com: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:32, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:25:36 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:17, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:34:05

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Per discussione Matt Amos
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:16 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: If one were to refer to nodes on the two ways instead of the way itself, it would remove the ambiguity wouldn't it? Albeit more complicated for the consumer to work out, in that it would have to decide which way the

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-ph] Reviving plan(s) for Tagaytay Mapping party

2009-04-23 Per discussione maning sambale
OK to, we can share mapping/surveying techniques in the mapping event :) What I do is: 1. old school - gps and notebook 2. gps and geotagged photo I think ed do voicemapping. Rally, maybe you can try synchronizing your notes to the gps timestamp automatically. Something like someone encodes the

Re: [Talk-de] Garminkarte für ganz Deutschland

2009-04-23 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Stephan Wolff wrote: Was sollen redundante Informationen in einer Datenbank? Redundante Informationen sind ueberfluessig, die Frage ist eher, was genau redundant ist. Unsere Datenbank unterstuetzt 7 Nachkommastellen bei der geografischen Laenge und Breite, das sind nach meiner

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Christoph Wagner
Bernd Wurst schrieb: Die Gefahr ist natürlich, dass dann manche Sachen doppelt drin sind, weil manche die Tags an das Gebäude haun und zusätzlich noch nen Punkt anlegen, wobei das ja eher ein Datenfehler ist. mkgmap prüft das. Wenn im nahen Umkreis des neu erzeugten Punktes schon ein

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Christoph Wagner schrieb: Was bedeutet road_class und road_speed genau? Welche Werte sind dort überhaupt möglich? Info von Steve zu road_speed: This is a rough guide. From the cgpsmapper manual. 7 128 km/h 6 108 km/h 5 93 km/h 4 72 km/h 3 56 km/h 2 40 km/h 1 20 km/h 0 8 km/h (ferry)

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Donnerstag 23 April 2009 09:47:11 schrieb Christoph Wagner: mkgmap prüft das. Wenn im nahen Umkreis des neu erzeugten Punktes schon ein Punkt mit gleichen Eigenschaften ist, wird nur einer eingetragen. Wow, das wusst ich auch nicht. Ah, moment mal, ich glaub ich hab da was

Re: [Talk-de] Panoramio

2009-04-23 Per discussione Sebastian Niehaus
Martin ddfsk.ba...@googlemail.com writes: Danke genau das was? wars was ich gesucht habe. :) Schön. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Garminkarte für die ganze Welt - Worl dfile vom 21.4.09

2009-04-23 Per discussione Carsten Schwede
Hallo, das neue Worldfile steht wie immer zum Download bereit unter: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Computerteddy Als Neuigkeit habe ich anzubieten, daß der Welt-Kachelsatz jetzt eine funktionierende Vorschaukarte hat, es kann also in Kartenprogramme die ganze Welt eingebunden werden.

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Garry
Chris-Hein Lunkhusen schrieb: Christoph Wagner schrieb: Was bedeutet road_class und road_speed genau? Welche Werte sind dort überhaupt möglich? Info von Steve zu road_speed: This is a rough guide. From the cgpsmapper manual. 7 128 km/h 6 108 km/h 5 93 km/h 4 72 km/h 3 56

Re: [Talk-de] Garminkarte für ganz Deutschland

2009-04-23 Per discussione Stephan Wolff
Moin, Frederik Ramm schrieb: Was sollen redundante Informationen in einer Datenbank? Redundante Informationen sind ueberfluessig, die Frage ist eher, was genau redundant ist. Unsere Datenbank unterstuetzt 7 Nachkommastellen bei der geografischen Laenge und Breite, das sind nach

Re: [Talk-de] living_street + maxspeed 7

2009-04-23 Per discussione Mario Salvini
Garry schrieb: Mario Salvini schrieb: Es gibt auch verkehrsberuhigungen die nicht als offizielle verkehrsberuihgte Zone mit diesem blauen Schild ausgewiesen sind. Garry das sind aber doch dann normale highway=residential Straßen... Mein Stand der Dinge ist, das

Re: [Talk-de] living_street + maxspeed 7

2009-04-23 Per discussione Rolf Bode-Meyer
Am 23. April 2009 00:32 schrieb Garry garr...@gmx.de: Stimmt nicht ganz - Durchfahrt verboten mit einem _Zusatzschild das ein ballspielendes Kind symbolisiert gilt als Spielstrasse - maxspeed = 0 da jeglicher Verkehr verboten Ist das dann nicht eigentlich gleichbedeutend mit

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Christoph Wagner
Chris-Hein Lunkhusen schrieb: Christoph Wagner schrieb: Was bedeutet road_class und road_speed genau? Welche Werte sind dort überhaupt möglich? Info von Steve zu road_speed: This is a rough guide. From the cgpsmapper manual. 7 128 km/h 6 108 km/h 5 93 km/h 4 72 km/h 3 56 km/h 2

[Talk-de] Garminkarte Doku update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Christoph Wagner
Hallo liste, hab heute mal das gröbste an Doku ins Wiki gehaun, was ich so weiß. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:All_in_one_Garmin_Map Featurewünsche sind ab sofort dort zu entrichten. Wer was besser weiß, soll es bitte einfach editieren. Außerdem bin ich irgendwie nicht so der

Re: [Talk-de] Panoramio

2009-04-23 Per discussione Claudius
Am 23.04.2009 01:56, Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 22. April 2009 22:00 schrieb Claudiusclaudiu...@gmx.de: Am 22.04.2009 16:55, Martin: Danke genau das wars was ich gesucht habe. :) Jetzt auch mit Flickr-Unterstützung. Muss man da was einstellen für Flickr? Die Bilder der letzten Mapping-Party

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Garry schrieb: This is a rough guide. From the cgpsmapper manual. 7 128 km/h 6 108 km/h 5 93 km/h 4 72 km/h 3 56 km/h 2 40 km/h 1 20 km/h 0 8 km/h (ferry) Ich nehme an das ist die anzunehmende Gescwindigkeit fürs routing und nicht für maxspeed? Ja. Wie werden den die Werte aus

[Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Falk Zscheile
Moin, an wen kann man sich wenden, wenn man in JOSM aus einem Picknickplatz (tourism=picnic_site) einen Grillplatz machen möchte und daher nicht nur nach fireplace=yes sondern auch nach barbecue_grill=yes (Grill vor Ort vorhanden) gefragt werden möchte? Danke Gruß Falk

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Claudius
Am 23.04.2009 12:54, Falk Zscheile: an wen kann man sich wenden, wenn man in JOSM aus einem Picknickplatz (tourism=picnic_site) einen Grillplatz machen möchte und daher nicht nur nach fireplace=yes sondern auch nach barbecue_grill=yes (Grill vor Ort vorhanden) gefragt werden möchte? Was ist

Re: [Talk-de] Panoramio

2009-04-23 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23. April 2009 13:53 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 23. April 2009 12:21 schrieb Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de: Hm. ich hatte gestern nacht noch einen Quick Hack für Firefox 2 gemacht, der sich leider als Bumerang erwiesen hat. Hab das jetzt rückgängig gemacht. (Sorry,

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Falk Zscheile
Am 23. April 2009 13:32 schrieb Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de: Am 23.04.2009 12:54, Falk Zscheile: an wen kann man sich wenden, wenn man in JOSM aus einem Picknickplatz (tourism=picnic_site) einen Grillplatz machen möchte und daher nicht nur nach fireplace=yes sondern auch nach barbecue_grill=yes

Re: [Talk-de] Garminkarte für ganz Deutschland

2009-04-23 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23. April 2009 10:45 schrieb Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: Es ging um eine zu hohe Punktdichte auf Wegen. Es gibt einige nahezu gerade Wege, die aus offenbar im Sekundentakt aufgezeichneten GPS-Datenpunkten bestehen. Eine mögliche Definition redundanter Punkte wäre: Wegpunkte, die keine

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23. April 2009 13:57 schrieb Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@googlemail.com: Du meinst zu einer Feuerstelle? Gitter vor Ort? Aufhängevorrichtung? Links und rechts zwei Steinblöcke auf die man einen mitgebrachten Gitterrost legen könnte? Ich meine schon einen gemauerten, jedenfalls irgendwie

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@googlemail.com wrote: an wen kann man sich wenden, wenn man in JOSM aus einem Picknickplatz (tourism=picnic_site) einen Grillplatz machen möchte und daher nicht nur nach fireplace=yes sondern auch nach barbecue_grill=yes (Grill vor Ort vorhanden) gefragt werden

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/4/23 Chris-Hein Lunkhusen chris66...@gmx.de: 2 40 km/h highway=living_street road_class=0 road_speed=2 ;-) Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Chris-Hein Lunkhusen chris66...@gmx.de wrote: highway=track road_class=0 road_speed=1 Das sollte man IMO bei tracktype grade 4 und 5 auf 0 setzen statt auf 1. Sven -- If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. (Windows 95 BSOD) /me is gig...@ircnet,

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Falk Zscheile
Am 23. April 2009 14:14 schrieb Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de: Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@googlemail.com wrote: an wen kann man sich wenden, wenn man in JOSM aus einem Picknickplatz (tourism=picnic_site) einen Grillplatz machen möchte und daher nicht nur nach fireplace=yes sondern

Re: [Talk-de] Garminkarte für ganz Deutschland

2009-04-23 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net wrote: Vielleicht lässt sich die gelegentliche Briefkastensuche verschmerzen gegenüber eines grundsätzlich gestörten Weit-Routings. Ehrlich gesagt möchte ich beim mappen keine Karte auf dem Garmin haben, beid er der Briefkasten auf der falschen seite ist, denn

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Falk Zscheile
Am 23. April 2009 14:06 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 23. April 2009 13:57 schrieb Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@googlemail.com: Du meinst zu einer Feuerstelle? Gitter vor Ort? Aufhängevorrichtung? Links und rechts zwei Steinblöcke auf die man einen mitgebrachten

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23. April 2009 14:31 schrieb Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@googlemail.com: Oha, da scheint es doch erhebliche regionale Unterschiede zu geben. So ist beispielsweise an allen fest installierten Grillgelegenheiten (incl. Rost) die ich kenne das entfachen eines Feuers mittels Holz nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Falk Zscheile schrieb: Ok, das leuchtet ein. Ich kann auch noch abwarten, ob sich ein Bedürfnis für solch ein tag noch bei anderen entwickelt. Die Grillsaison geht ja gerade erst los. Ja, und auch die Biergartensaison. (amenity=biergarten wird ja auch noch nicht gerendert). ;-) Chris

Re: [Talk-de] living_street + maxspeed 7

2009-04-23 Per discussione Garry
Rolf Bode-Meyer schrieb: Am 23. April 2009 00:32 schrieb Garry garr...@gmx.de: Stimmt nicht ganz - Durchfahrt verboten mit einem _Zusatzschild das ein ballspielendes Kind symbolisiert gilt als Spielstrasse - maxspeed = 0 da jeglicher Verkehr verboten Ist das dann nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Garry
Falk Zscheile schrieb: Ich meine schon einen gemauerten, jedenfalls irgendwie fest installierten, Grill. Der Gitterrost sollte natürlich auch vorhanden sein, falls er nicht gerade geklaut wurde. Auf ein extra tag hierfür würde ich aber vorerst verzichten. Die Information ob ein Grill vor Ort

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Garry
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: highway=track road_class=0 road_speed=1 Das sollte man IMO bei tracktype grade 4 und 5 auf 0 setzen statt auf 1. Sven bei living_street auch (s. mein Spampost weiter oben). Da steht bei 0 in Klammer aber ferry dahinter - sollte man

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23. April 2009 15:01 schrieb Garry garr...@gmx.de: Falk Zscheile schrieb: Ich meine schon einen gemauerten, jedenfalls irgendwie fest installierten, Grill. Der Gitterrost sollte natürlich auch vorhanden sein, falls er nicht gerade geklaut wurde. Auf ein extra tag hierfür würde ich aber

[Talk-de] out of copyright im Wiki

2009-04-23 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Ein gewisser Head hat auf dieser Seite: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Out-Of-Copyright verschiedene als freie Quellen angegebene Karten durchgestrichen mit den Hinweis, dass keine Angaben zu den Autoren vorlägen (alle Dokumente selbst älter als 70 Jahre), darunter auch Amtlicher Plan der

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23. April 2009 15:07 schrieb Garry garr...@gmx.de: bei living_street auch (s. mein Spampost weiter oben). Da steht bei 0 in Klammer aber ferry dahinter - sollte man vorher prüfen ob über diese Strassen noch geroutet wird wenn man Fähren vom Routing ausschliesst - sonst können manche

[Talk-de] tourism attraction

2009-04-23 Per discussione elchtreiber
Hallo zusammen, JOSM zeigt mir bei tourism attraction auch einen Weg immer als Fläche an. Laut Wiki ist das auch richtig so, was aber mache ich, wenn eine Sommerrodelbahn auch für Touristen interessant ist? Statt dem ganzen Weg einfach einen Punkt nur als tourism attraction markieren? Andere

Re: [Talk-de] out of copyright im Wiki

2009-04-23 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: verschiedene als freie Quellen angegebene Karten durchgestrichen mit den Hinweis, dass keine Angaben zu den Autoren vorlägen (alle Dokumente selbst älter als 70 Jahre), darunter auch Amtlicher Plan der Landeshauptstadt Stuttgart. Ist es bei solchen Werken nicht so,

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Garry garr...@gmx.de wrote: Da steht bei 0 in Klammer aber ferry dahinter - sollte man vorher prüfen ob über diese Strassen noch geroutet wird wenn man Fähren vom Routing ausschliesst Also der default style (resources/styles/default/lines) verwendet das bei folgenden Wegen:

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Deutschland update

2009-04-23 Per discussione Sven Geggus
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: ja, auch sind bisher keine Werte für Fahrradfahrer bekannt. Was meinst Du damit? Sven -- All bugs added by David S. Miller da...@redhat.com Linux Kernel boot message from /usr/src/linux/net/8021q/vlan.c /me is gig...@ircnet,

Re: [Talk-de] Ersatz fuer Namefinder

2009-04-23 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com schrieb: http://travelingsales.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/travelingsales/trunk/libosm/src/org/openstreetmap/osm/data/searching/advancedAddressDB/ Wie sonst sollte ich eine Adress-Suche machen. Mal gucken, ob ich das zu PostGIS übersetzen kann.

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Garry
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: Am 23. April 2009 15:01 schrieb Garry garr...@gmx.de: Falk Zscheile schrieb: Ich meine schon einen gemauerten, jedenfalls irgendwie fest installierten, Grill. Der Gitterrost sollte natürlich auch vorhanden sein, falls er nicht gerade geklaut wurde. Auf

[Talk-de] Garminkarte tracktypes/surface

2009-04-23 Per discussione Jonas Krückel
Hi, gibt es eine Garminkarte, die tracktype bzw. surface-tags beim generieren beachtet bzw. anzeigt? Wäre fürs Radfahren extrem praktisch. Meine Computerteddykarte (ohne typfile) zeigt aktuell leider keine Unterschiede zwischen Wegen mit verschieden tracktype-tags. Gruß Jonas

Re: [Talk-de] tourism attraction

2009-04-23 Per discussione Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Donnerstag 23 April 2009 16:51:43 schrieb elchtrei...@gmx.net: Laut Wiki ist das auch richtig so, was aber mache ich, wenn eine Sommerrodelbahn auch für Touristen interessant ist? Eine Sommerrodelbahn ist keine Attraktion. Auch ein Hotel oder ein Biergarten kann für Touristen

Re: [Talk-de] Garminkarte tracktypes/surface

2009-04-23 Per discussione Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Donnerstag 23 April 2009 17:33:42 schrieb Jonas Krückel: gibt es eine Garminkarte, die tracktype bzw. surface-tags beim generieren beachtet bzw. anzeigt? Wäre fürs Radfahren extrem praktisch. Als nicht-offroad-radler habe ich mir eine Karte gemacht, die tracktype=grade1 und

Re: [Talk-de] Grillplatz/JOSM

2009-04-23 Per discussione Philipp
Garry schrieb: Will ich mir aber sparen einen Grill mitzuschleppen dann bin ich auf eine hochaktuelle Information angewiesen die mir OSM nicht geben kann. Wo hast du denn Grillen gelernt? Ein guter Griller kann improvisieren. Informationen nicht zu erfassen, weil eine Fehlinformation einen

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