Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Just got back from an Aid Mission to the Remote Caluya Islands West of Borocay

2013-12-15 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Dear Mikel, Dear All, If, like everyone on these lists I think, you appreciate and like the awesome work that Mark and his team are doing, then you might also appreciate and like the fact that the petition to get more imagery in open access, to support mapping the Philippines after Yolanda

Re: [OSM-talk] Low Cost Android with Accurate GPS (GLONASS) for OSM Survey

2013-12-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
Alex I suspect the 5 or larger requirement is an issue, you will have more options if you allow slightly smaller screens. For example the Motorola Moto G is excluded by th 5 req, but would nearly fit in your price bracket. Personally I think expecting GPS accuracy in a phone might be slightly

[OSM-talk] NY times article about Google maps and OSM

2013-12-15 Per discussione Stephan Knauss
Hi, I did not see this linked on this list, so here you go: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/magazine/googles-plan-for-global-domination-dont-ask-why-ask-where.html?_r=0 Interesting fact to know: Google has over 2,000 paid armchair mappers in Hyderabad, India. Stephan

Re: [OSM-talk] NY times article about Google maps and OSM

2013-12-15 Per discussione Johan C
Not seen it before, thanks for sharing the link. It's noticeable (and a pity) the OSMF hasn't been interviewed. The article gives too much credit to OSM as being 'a potential challenger to Google’s cartographic hegemony'. Cheers, Johan 2013/12/15 Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de Hi,

Re: [OSM-talk] NY times article about Google maps and OSM

2013-12-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
I suspect mentioning OSM (obviously didn't even bother to google the spelling) was an afterthought after writing 8 pages of copy for google and being afraid that it might come over as being an ad. As to if it gives us too much credit, we haven't cast our net further than conventional

Re: [OSM-talk] NY times article about Google maps and OSM

2013-12-15 Per discussione nicholas . g . lawrence
I did not see this linked on this list, so here you go: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/magazine/googles-plan-for-global- domination-dont-ask-why-ask-where.html?_r=0 page 6 of 8, second paragraph The O.S.M. map data is free now - but using it comes with a catch. Any improvement, or any

Re: [OSM-talk] NY times article about Google maps and OSM

2013-12-15 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 16.12.2013 00:27, schrieb nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au: I did not see this linked on this list, so here you go: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/magazine/googles-plan-for-global- domination-dont-ask-why-ask-where.html?_r=0 page 6 of 8, second paragraph The O.S.M. map data is

Re: [Talk-de] Land- UND Forstwirtschaflticher Verkehr

2013-12-15 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 08:59:20PM +0100, Masi Master wrote: Man sollte aber unbedingt den Doppelwert agricultural;forestry eintragen. Sonst kann man den Unterschied zu den anderen 2 Fällen nicht mehr unterscheiden. Dass das ; von einigen nicht ausgewertet wird, ist kein Grund es nicht zu

Re: [Talk-de] Land- UND Forstwirtschaflticher Verkehr

2013-12-15 Per discussione Volker Schmidt
Florian, Also - koennte man genausogut ein access=no drauf packen denn fuer alle anderen ist das equivalent. Meine Frage entstand aus dem Radfahrer-Blickwinkel: Fuer den ist es wichtig ob ein unbefestigter Weg, der z.B. Teil einer ausgewiesenen Radroute auch von Land- und

Re: [Talk-de] Land- UND Forstwirtschaflticher Verkehr

2013-12-15 Per discussione Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:58:06PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: wichtig ob ein unbefestigter Weg, der z.B. Teil einer ausgewiesenen Radroute auch von Land- und Forstwirtschaftlichen Fahrzeugen (= Traktoren) benutzt wird. Oft sind di dann nur noch MTB-befahrbar und der Tourenradler wicht

Re: [Talk-de] 1000 Hausnummern

2013-12-15 Per discussione Christoph (TheFive@OSM)
Hi, Wieso ? Wenn auf dem Gelände keine building=* existiert ist doch klar, dass dort kein Gebäude ist. Muss ich Dir recht geben. Allerdings sagt Taginfo: 27.000.000 Objekte sind mit housenumber getagt. (immerhin gibt es bei 23 Mio die Strassenangabe !) Building ist aber nur bei 11 M

Re: [Talk-de] 1000 Hausnummern

2013-12-15 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. Dezember 2013 17:12 schrieb Christoph (TheFive@OSM) thefive@gmail.com: Generell tue ich mich schwer mit nicht existenten Dingen in unserer Karte. (und eine Reservierung einer Hausnummer für die Stadt ist ebenso nicht existent wie z.b. der Eintrag eines Hausbesitzers im Grundbuch).

Re: [Talk-de] Land- UND Forstwirtschaflticher Verkehr

2013-12-15 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. Dezember 2013 12:48 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Ganz Ehrlich? Braucht der Bauer ein Navi fuer seine eigenen Felder? Braucht der Forstarbeiter ein Navi für seine Schläge? Nein Also - koennte man genausogut ein access=no drauf packen denn fuer alle anderen ist das equivalent.

Re: [Talk-de] 1000 Hausnummern

2013-12-15 Per discussione Bernhard Weiskopf
Von: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] ... in anderen Fällen halte ich es dennoch für wünschenswert, dass man die (offizielle) Nummer in OSM einträgt, weil früher oder später wird auf einem Beugrundstück auch gebaut, und wenn man nun schon die Nummer in der Hand hat, und

Re: [Talk-de] 1000 Hausnummern

2013-12-15 Per discussione Peter Wendorff
Das Grundstück hat schon eine Nummer - richtig. Aber die bleibt nicht zwingend so. Diese Plannummer kann sich durch weitere Aufteilung oder Zusammenlegun von Grundstücken ändern, aus 11 wird 11a, 11b und 11c, aus 13 und 15 wird 13-15 oder auch nur 13. Hausnummern und Adressen an ein Grundstück zu

Re: [Talk-de] 1000 Hausnummern

2013-12-15 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. Dezember 2013 18:50 schrieb Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de : Hausnummer und Straße an Nodes. Bisher kann man daraus ableiten 1) Ich kann danach routen (was bei unbebauten Grundstücken ohne Hausnummer nicht geht) 2) Die Adresse gibt es (stimmt eigentlich immer), als Adresse

Re: [Talk-de] Land- UND Forstwirtschaflticher Verkehr

2013-12-15 Per discussione Steffen Heinz
Am 15.12.2013 12:48, schrieb Florian Lohoff: Ganz Ehrlich? Braucht der Bauer ein Navi fuer seine eigenen Felder? ja... aber auf den cm genau, moderne Geräte um Dünger (etc) auszubringen brauchen so was die Tendenz geht zu automatisch fahrenden MAschinen Braucht der Forstarbeiter ein Navi

Re: [Talk-de] 1000 Hausnummern

2013-12-15 Per discussione Bernhard Weiskopf
Von: Peter Wendorff [mailto:wendo...@uni-paderborn.de] Das Grundstück hat schon eine Nummer - richtig. Aber die bleibt nicht zwingend so. Diese Plannummer kann sich durch weitere Aufteilung oder Zusammenlegun von Grundstücken ändern, aus 11 wird 11a, 11b und 11c, aus 13 und 15 wird 13-15

Re: [Talk-de] Land- UND Forstwirtschaflticher Verkehr

2013-12-15 Per discussione René Falk
Am 15.12.2013 12:48, schrieb Florian Lohoff: Braucht der Forstarbeiter ein Navi für seine Schläge? Aber sicher doch, und auch andere GPS-Anwendungen sind verbreitet, z.B.: Polterverwaltung, Forst-Tracker, Flächenermittlung, Harvester gibt es mit Navi-Steuerung, usw. Manch moderner

Re: [Talk-de] Land- UND Forstwirtschaflticher Verkehr

2013-12-15 Per discussione Mark Obrembalski
On 15.12.2013 21:25, René Falk wrote: Am 15.12.2013 12:48, schrieb Florian Lohoff: Braucht der Forstarbeiter ein Navi für seine Schläge? Aber sicher doch, und auch andere GPS-Anwendungen sind verbreitet, z.B.: Polterverwaltung, Forst-Tracker, Flächenermittlung, Harvester gibt es mit

[Talk-in] (no subject)

2013-12-15 Per discussione Ravi Kumar
Dear all, Researchers / students may choose to attend a completely funded OSGeo India, FOSS GIS -3- week winter school at IIIT Hyderabad, India. We would like to request you to please send in Applications/Nominations (Indian Nationals) of potential participants who can benefit from attending

Re: [Talk-it] I dati dell'agenzia dei trasporti di Roma

2013-12-15 Per discussione Aury88
Da quello che ho capito alcuni di questi dati potrebbero essere utili per una mappa con la posizione realtime dei mezzi di trasporto (dati che non credo siano gestibili direttamente in osm) e che quindi potrebbero permettere la creazione per Roma di una di quelle mappe già sviluppate per altre

Re: [Talk-it] I dati dell'agenzia dei trasporti di Roma

2013-12-15 Per discussione Maurizio Napolitano
2013/12/15 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: Da quello che ho capito alcuni di questi dati potrebbero essere utili per una mappa con la posizione realtime dei mezzi di trasporto (dati che non credo siano gestibili direttamente in osm) e che quindi potrebbero permettere la creazione per Roma di

Re: [Talk-it] http://www.airesis.it/home#

2013-12-15 Per discussione girarsi_liste
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 15/12/2013 19:37, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: OT/la mia insana curiosità mi ha iscritto a questo social:-) /OT Orrore, usano Google Maps, e si dichiarano Open. Allego screen shots.leggerissimo:-[ Brutto.. RISPETTA

Re: [Talk-se] Riksettan

2013-12-15 Per discussione Micke
Jag skapade en relation för drygt ett år sedan. http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2307312 Ni får gärna komplettera den med det som saknas eller rätta eventuella felaktigheter. /Anders _ Från: Jonas Hogstrom [mailto:jonas.hogst...@pobox.com] Skickat: den 13

Re: [Talk-se] Riksettan

2013-12-15 Per discussione Lars Aronsson
On 12/15/2013 01:35 PM, Micke wrote: Jag skapade en relation för drygt ett år sedan. http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2307312 Ni får gärna komplettera den med det som saknas eller rätta eventuella felaktigheter. Snyggt! Runt Mjölby saknas ett stycke, men det råder väl inga

Re: [Talk-se] Riksettan

2013-12-15 Per discussione Lars Aronsson
On 12/15/2013 04:46 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: On 12/15/2013 01:35 PM, Micke wrote: Jag skapade en relation för drygt ett år sedan. http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2307312 Ni får gärna komplettera den med det som saknas eller rätta eventuella felaktigheter. Snyggt! Runt Mjölby saknas

Re: [Talk-se] Riksettan

2013-12-15 Per discussione Lars Aronsson
On 12/15/2013 06:06 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: On 12/15/2013 04:46 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: On 12/15/2013 01:35 PM, Micke wrote: Jag skapade en relation för drygt ett år sedan. http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2307312 Ni får gärna komplettera den med det som saknas eller rätta eventuella

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear barrios y zonas dentro de un municipio

2013-12-15 Per discussione Manuel lladosa
No responde nadie, y yo no tengo suficiente experiencia para poder responderte. Simplemente te puedo decir que estoy observando los barrios de Valencia, donde yo vivo, y todos tienen la etiqueta place=suburb, y luego está marcado el contorno del barrio con un área con la etiqueta

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear barrios y zonas dentro de un municipio

2013-12-15 Per discussione Javier Sánchez
Hola Si te sabes los límites administrativos[1], puedes usar una relación[2] frontera[3] de nivel 9 para los distritos como subareas del municipio y de nivel 10 como subareas de los distritos. Lo difícil es saber los límites exactos. Si usas nodos con place usa suburb sólo para barrios de

[Talk-es] Ediciones en Aranjuez

2013-12-15 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
Hola a todos, Me di cuenta que en Aranjuez faltan varias calles principales y a algunas mas no tienen conecciones correctas en los cruces o no corresponden con las imagenes. Al mirar el render se ve que son unos cambios recientes ya que en algunos tiles todavia aparecen estos elementos borrados,

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione N.R.
Man patīk Locus ar vektoru kartēm N. Sent from my iPhone On 15 Dec 2013, at 09:33, Girts Ziemelis girts.zieme...@gmail.com wrote: Ar 30km/h varētu, vismaz pa lielāko daļu. Papētīju drusku to esošo mežu masīvu. Tur līdzīgi ceļi/stigas ir ievadīti kā highway=track Tos arī lietošu. Stigas

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione N.R.
Netrūkst LVM veidotu meža ceļu, taisnu kā līniju, nesaistīti ar stigām Un vispār, tā ir stiga tikai tad, ja tai nav citu funkciju. Citādi dažas no šosejām arī varētu tā marķēt N. Sent from my iPhone On 15 Dec 2013, at 09:43, Jānis Ročāns janis.roc...@gmail.com wrote: Stigas var atpazīt

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Pēteris Brūns
Zināt mēs nevaram, bet stigas mēdz būt dažādas. Nepiekritīšu tik kardinālam apgalvojuma - Un vispār, tā ir stiga tikai tad, ja tai nav citu funkciju. Lielākos meža masīvos kvartālstigas parasti ir lielas un platas(laikam skaitās ne platākas par 5m...), bieži vien kvartālstiga=mineralizētā josla

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione N.R.
Primāri kartes lietotājiem tomēr ir svarīga šo vietu kā ceļu lietošana, nevis kā stigu, tā kā jā, to arī gribēju pateikt. Sent from my iPhone On 15 Dec 2013, at 11:19, Pēteris Brūns peteris.br...@gmail.com wrote: Zināt mēs nevaram, bet stigas mēdz būt dažādas. Nepiekritīšu tik

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Raitis U.
place=isolated_dwelling; name=* - viensēta, kā punkts. Ja tiek izzīmētas ēkas tad uz vienas no tām var likt housename=* ja ciems no 5 mājām: vidū jāliek place=hamlet un nosaukums, ja vairāk, tad place=village. viesu mājas apzīmējumi: building=yes; amenity=guest_house; name=*; addr:subdistrict=YYY

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Uldis Seglins
+1, arī atbalstu praktisku loģiku :-) uldics On Dec 15, 2013 11:20 AM, Pēteris Brūns peteris.br...@gmail.com wrote: Zināt mēs nevaram, bet stigas mēdz būt dažādas. Nepiekritīšu tik kardinālam apgalvojuma - Un vispār, tā ir stiga tikai tad, ja tai nav citu funkciju. Lielākos meža masīvos

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Girts Ziemelis
Liels paldies, izsmeļoši. Amenity=guest_house neatradu http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity Nav domāts tourism=guest_house ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourism Nebūtu pareizāk likt building=hotel, tourism=guesthouse ? Esmu starā par kartes editoru - superīgs verķis :)

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Girts Ziemelis
Super - viss izdevās :) Pa brīvdienām būs jāmēģina pabraukāties un paķibināties ar trekiem. Visiem liels paldies. Locus izskatās labs :) Līdz šim viss strādā un arī vektoru karti no http://www.openandromaps.org smuki paņēma. Reklāma krīt uz nerviem, bet ja viss strādās, tad Pro versija arī

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Rich
On 12/15/2013 11:19 AM, Pēteris Brūns wrote: Zināt mēs nevaram, bet stigas mēdz būt dažādas. Nepiekritīšu tik kardinālam apgalvojuma - Un vispār, tā ir stiga tikai tad, ja tai nav citu funkciju. Lielākos meža masīvos kvartālstigas stiga pilniigi noteikti vienlaiciigi var buut track vai path.

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Rich
On 12/15/2013 12:43 PM, Girts Ziemelis wrote: Liels paldies, izsmeļoši. Amenity=guest_house neatradu http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity Nav domāts tourism=guest_house ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tourism noteikti tourism Nebūtu pareizāk likt building=hotel,

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Rich
On 12/15/2013 11:42 AM, Raitis U. wrote: place=isolated_dwelling; name=* - viensēta, kā punkts. ja ir tikai viena eeka, tad it kaa arii eekai shos tagus var likt. Ja tiek izzīmētas ēkas tad uz vienas no tām var likt housename=* sho noteikti var lietot tad, ja ciemaa ir nevis maaju numuri, bet

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Rich
On 12/15/2013 09:33 AM, Girts Ziemelis wrote: Ar 30km/h varētu, vismaz pa lielāko daļu. Papētīju drusku to esošo mežu masīvu. Tur līdzīgi ceļi/stigas ir ievadīti kā highway=track Tos arī lietošu. Stigas tās ir bijušas sen un par to vairs liecina tikai tas, ka kvadrātos sadala meža masīvu.

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Rich
On 12/14/2013 12:11 PM, Girts Ziemelis wrote: ... Kad tas sazīmētais parādās OSM kartē? It kā changeset rāda, bet kartē nerāda. Tas notiek pēc laika, jeb tur ir kaut kāda apstiprināšanas procedūra? bish jau atbildeeja, bet precizeeshu. normaali izmainjas paraadaas kartee ~ 5 minuushu laikaa,

Re: [Talk-lv] Valsts ceļi

2013-12-15 Per discussione Rich
On 12/13/2013 11:57 PM, Jānis Ročāns wrote: Well, ok... Katrā ziņā stigas tik un tā neviens vēl nezīmēs. Te gan vajag vasaru un cilvēkiem paskatīties, kā īsti ir dabā. Tie ceļi pa stigām mēdz iet līkločiem (kas velo varētu būt svarīgi) un tur vairs neatmaksāsies graizīt līnijas, lai tik kāds

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Communiqué de presse limites administratives

2013-12-15 Per discussione Stéphane Péneau
Le blog data sur le site du monde.fr parle des limites communales : http://data.blog.lemonde.fr/2013/12/12/openstreetmap-acheve-la-collecte-des-limites-communales/ StephaneP ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Convertir les données de type polygones en noeud (gpx, csv, osm) ( était : umap problème de =?iso-8859-1?q?_requ=EAte?=)

2013-12-15 Per discussione sly (sylvain letuffe)
Le samedi 14 décembre 2013 22:50:41, Vincent Pottier a écrit : Ça peut se faire ? fait. ps: ayant dérivé HS plutôt pas mal, je me permet de migrer sur dev-fr pour plus de détails -- sly (sylvain letuffe) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Sletuffe

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Appel à contribution du côté d'Alès (Gard)

2013-12-15 Per discussione Philippe Verdy
disused:* ne veut pas dire que c'est détruit, juste que c'est un ancien usage (par exemple un commerce qui a fermé, mais dont le pas de porte est encore disponible pour un autre usage). On as plutôt destroyed:* pour les démolitions/destructions. (impossibilité que cela puisse redevnir le même

Re: [Talk-GB] Magistrates and Crown Courts listings as open data – hack event coming…

2013-12-15 Per discussione Tim Waters
I wonder if court listings also has the addresses of those involved / defendants? A further source of addresses and postcodes On 9 December 2013 17:16, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: From:

Re: [Talk-GB] Magistrates and Crown Courts listings as open data – hack event coming…

2013-12-15 Per discussione Jonathan
Was that a serious suggestion? Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 15/12/2013 13:36, Tim Waters wrote: I wonder if court listings also has the addresses of those involved / defendants? A further source of addresses and postcodes On 9 December 2013 17:16, Andy Mabbett

[Talk-GB] naptan:Landmark tags

2013-12-15 Per discussione SomeoneElse
Does anyone use the fact that some of these were set to N/A by the original Naptan import? If so, you might want to discuss changeset 19472400 with its author, which has removed a number of these. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list

[Talk-us] Turns on bidirectional highways

2013-12-15 Per discussione Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I've been searching for some documentation to explain an intersection that has several turn restrictions that need to be mapped for routing to work properly. The intersection in question is where Riva Road intersects with West Street[0]. Traffic

Re: [Talk-us] Turns on bidirectional highways

2013-12-15 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/15/13 3:27 PM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: I've been searching for some documentation to explain an intersection that has several turn restrictions that need to be mapped for routing to work properly. The intersection in question is where Riva Road intersects with West Street[0].

Re: [Talk-us] Turns on bidirectional highways

2013-12-15 Per discussione Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 07:36:40PM -0500, Richard Welty wrote: On 12/15/13 3:27 PM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: I've been searching for some documentation to explain an intersection that has several turn restrictions that need to be mapped for

Re: [Talk-us] Turns on bidirectional highways

2013-12-15 Per discussione Richard Welty
On 12/15/13 9:23 PM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 07:36:40PM -0500, Richard Welty wrote: 3) you can use a way as a via, not just a node. Not sure what you mean by that. Can you point to an example, please? consider a u-turn on a motorway with a no u-turn sign posted

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US State highways.

2013-12-15 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
Paul - I believe we should go with what has been adopted the most - this has been a leading argument in my thinking about this: the data dictates and in this case indicates that the member role is the preferred place for the cardinal directions overall. I don't really see how the parent / child

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US State highways.

2013-12-15 Per discussione Martijn van Exel
Edited the page to clarify, but if you think it needs more discussion I'm happy to do that as well! Also I think the page could do with some clarifying diagrams at this point...Anyone good at that? On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: James, all, Work on