Re: [Talk-ca] Can-Amera border, states and provinces.

2009-08-16 Per discussione James Ewen
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Richard Weaitrich...@weait.com wrote: I think the provincial / state borders will continue to be yucky on the main map until mapnik supports rendering different style sheets per region / country. My thoughts exactly, but does the OSM project support

Re: [Talk-ca] importing geobase data for the Canadian boarder

2009-08-15 Per discussione James Ewen
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Ben Konrathb...@bagu.org wrote: Ok, I did some more poking around and it seems that the land border with the US is really borked. For BC and Alberta, there are 3 - 4 different border lines with the US. I'm willing to do the work required to clean this up by

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Per discussione James Ewen
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:58 PM, William Lachancewrl...@gmail.com wrote: Right, you have to split up a way if the tags change as you describe. However, there's also the (at the very least implied) convention that a way should not be split if the tags don't change. Yup, that's what I was doing

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-11 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Mepham, Michaelmichael.mep...@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca wrote: I would reword the chances of “slim to none” to read “very high to high”. Wow, the winds of bureaucracy do shift every once and a while! Okay, if that's the case then I have to rethink what we can do to

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-11 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:40 PM, William Lachancewrl...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say that as someone who uses OSM data in my own projects, I really don't like the idea of creating our own OSM-CA mapping and tagging conventions. Do we really want to be formatting our OSM data differently

Re: [Talk-ca] Geobase data vs. OSM data on import

2009-06-07 Per discussione James Ewen
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Austin Henryahenry-ostcat...@canoe.staticcling.org wrote: It looks like the data was generally collected in one drive through by a non-local.  I'm not saying the data's crap, some of is really quite good.  But there are parts of it where it looks like a

Re: [Talk-ca] importing geobase data for the Canadian boarder

2009-05-27 Per discussione James Ewen
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: Ok, I did some more poking around and it seems that the land border with the US is really borked. For BC and Alberta, there are 3 - 4 different border lines with the US. I'm willing to do the work required to clean this up by

Re: [Talk-ca] importing geobase data for the Canadian boarder

2009-05-27 Per discussione James Ewen
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Ben Konrath b...@bagu.org wrote: Great! Do you have a record of this communication so that we can archive it in a public place? fromCulham, Doug doug.cul...@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca to James Ewen je...@shaw.ca cc Johnson, Bob bob.john...@nrcan

Re: [Talk-ca] importing geobase data for the Canadian boarder

2009-05-27 Per discussione James Ewen
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.com wrote: For BC and Alberta, there are 3 - 4 different border lines with the US. This one is very very easy. It is the 49th parallel from lake of the woods to the straight of georgia. No so little Grasshopper! It's close to

Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Trans Canada Trail in Cranbrook Kimberley

2009-05-24 Per discussione James Ewen
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Please follow the guidelines.  What you wrote above suggests that you did not get explicit permission to use the tracks.  Do they have  a license or terms of use posted?  Please revert your changes until you confirm that

[Talk-ca] GeoBase acquisition techniques

2009-04-15 Per discussione James Ewen
So, how does GeoBase go about determining where the roads are? I happened to find something interesting in the GeoBase data. There's a little jog in Township Road 520. This is not a real world artifact. This road is just about arrow straight through there.

[Talk-ca] Geobase ferry routes

2009-04-13 Per discussione James Ewen
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2009, Sam Vekemans wrote: Hi, im wondering if you have included the ferry routes as part of your script? They should be. I think there is a ferry somewhere in Alberta to verify, but I can't recall

Re: [Talk-ca] Is Edmonton broken? (NW)

2009-04-06 Per discussione James Ewen
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Vavrek mattvav...@hotmail.com wrote: Edmonton is just weird, not broken. As far as I know, Edmonton was running out of street numbers as the city grew south and east (people don't like negative street numbers, oddly enough), so they started using a

Re: [Talk-ca] Merging OSM + Geobase (summary)

2009-04-05 Per discussione James Ewen
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote: GeoBase also like to show intersecting dual carriageways as all intersecting at a single point. (Can't find one right now...) Figured I should back my claims with proof... http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.54653lon

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] silly borders

2009-03-31 Per discussione James Ewen
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Matthew Schneider mlschnei...@bucketofbolts.net wrote: Fifty-Four Forty or Fight! Actually, it is the 49th parallel, West of Lake of the Woods. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Treaty Yup, 49 it is, but there are minor deviations along that line due to

Re: [Talk-ca] silly borders

2009-03-31 Per discussione James Ewen
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Brent Fraser bfra...@geoanalytic.com wrote: And for those who like to parse latitude and longitude: http://www.internationalboundarycommission.org/products.html#coordinates Aha, the definitive source that I was asking about... Actual lat/long values of the

Re: [Talk-ca] silly borders

2009-03-31 Per discussione James Ewen
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:47 AM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Brent Fraser bfra...@geoanalytic.com wrote: And for those who like to parse latitude and longitude: http://www.internationalboundarycommission.org/products.html#coordinates Aha

Re: [Talk-ca] Province / State borders

2009-03-31 Per discussione James Ewen
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Borders for Vermont and New York appear bolder than for Minnesota and Illinois.  Have they been tagged differently, or duplicated?  Anyone have a border-checker script? I see something similar near Emerson, MB. Both are

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Merging OSM + Geobase

2009-03-27 Per discussione James Ewen
AUGG On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:51 AM, William Lachance wrl...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, I should have noted this-- it probably makes sense in many cases for this script to merge some of the GeoBase segments together into single OSM ways, as there doesn't seem to be any reason for them to

Re: [Talk-ca] Merging OSM + Geobase

2009-03-27 Per discussione James Ewen
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:10 AM, William Lachance wrl...@gmail.com wrote: I see the argument of not wanting to blow away people's hard work, but from my (admittedly NS-centric view), that approach will lead to severe limitations in terms of the quality and consistency of the results. If you

Re: [Talk-ca] Merging OSM + Geobase

2009-03-26 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:00 PM, William Lachance wrl...@gmail.com wrote: I've been following the discussions about the geobase import with interest. There seems to be some concern about how to correlate the existing OSM data with the Geobase dataset. In particular, how do we get the superior

Re: [Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap in The Times - atlas of the world book

2009-03-26 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: This makes me excited because by the end of this year, all of Canada will be complete! I think you're jumping the gun just a little. Even if all the GeoBase data is imported... Even if all the street names are

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Railway tagging

2009-02-27 Per discussione James Ewen
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Re: snowshed i am entering it as 'tunnel', however i do think its worth getting a special icon for it. Or maybe 'shed' would be better? As that is used in railyards, but it could almost be classified as a

Re: [Talk-ca] Curling icons for OSM

2009-02-12 Per discussione James Ewen
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The sport of curling has been ignored by OSM for too long. I've made a set of icons for curling rinks. k:sport; v:curling can now have the dignity it deserves. When was the last time you were in a small Prairie town?

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase import woes...

2009-01-26 Per discussione James Ewen
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca wrote: Would the ability to merge only selected items from one layer to the next make this substantially easier? Yes, indeed it would. Instead of deleting everything I don't want, then merging, reloading all, deleting

Re: [Talk-ca] NRN Fort McMurray area data

2009-01-12 Per discussione James Ewen
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca wrote: If the standalone detection worked properly we should be able to upload the .standalone and not create any duplicate ways (My inputs where based on the Jan 07 canada.osm dump). People could the use the full in JOSM

Re: [Talk-ca] A Question for you

2009-01-08 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM, kevinfarru...@gmail.com wrote: Why is canvec still being brought up? Because Sam's still running in circles... Sam has a project that he would like to complete, and he'd like to use CanVec data in it. James VE6SRV

Re: [Talk-ca] Conflicts between GeoBase and OSM attributes

2009-01-02 Per discussione James Ewen
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Richard Degelder rtdegel...@gmail.com wrote: So if a user adjusts the way slightly or changes some of the attributes for that way we are going to leave it alone as long as it has an NID. An update will only worry about the ways within OSM that do not have an

Re: [Talk-ca] What we dont know from GeoBase

2009-01-01 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Dale Atkin dat...@ibycus.com wrote: I'm sorry if some of the above has come off as a little abrupt, but I'm getting a little frustrated over here. I feel like I have a solution which should work, and should provide a better overall mapset for everyone, and

[Talk-ca] Geobase NRN import script

2009-01-01 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Jason Reid o...@bowvalleytechnologies.com wrote: In terms of actually adding the data into OSM, the only real solution is to use the API and the bulk_upload tool (or a tool with equivalent functionality). But that bulk_upload tool has no provisions for checking

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase Goals

2009-01-01 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: I guess you missed my last message (understanding the role Ibycus can could play), but thats OK. No, I probably saw it, just couldn't figure out what you were trying to convey, or don't believe that the role is

Re: [Talk-ca] Ice Roads

2008-12-26 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Richard Degelder rtdegel...@gmail.com wrote: As one of those southerners that is going to be puzzled when I see a roadway that goes from land over water without a bridge or ferry, and not using a ford either, I have one question. Do the ice roads generally go

[Talk-ca] GeoBase to OSM attribute mapping.

2008-12-26 Per discussione James Ewen
Just looking at some attributes... The alleyway/lane is currently mapped as highway:service. I would suggest that highway:service is more appropriate. Here's the description for a sevice road: Generally for access to a building, motorway service station, beach, campsite, industrial estate,

[Talk-ca] OSM GeoBase import project.

2008-12-23 Per discussione James Ewen
Okay, I have a really silly question to ask... Sam talks about we are working on this project, and they are doing this or that, and an us occasionally, but is there an actual group of people that are working towards making this import a reality? I have seen posts from a few people that obviously

Re: [Talk-ca] Coastlines on OSM

2008-12-17 Per discussione James Ewen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: If the NHN would be imported as nodes with reference back to the source, and the users could connect-the-dots, that might possably work better. I sure hope this doesn't happen. With the world's longest

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase Import - Another idea

2008-12-17 Per discussione James Ewen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: ... IMO were better off working from the ground up, and getting local areas to ask builders/road planners to post the updates, as soon as construction is finished rather than wait for information to be

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase import update Rev. 3

2008-12-13 Per discussione James Ewen
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: D -are we in unanamous agreement that the way to do the import is to; Create a program which will detect existing OSM data and add the UUID# reference onto the point/way/polygon/relation so that it will not

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: Why import all of Geobase/Canvec?

2008-12-11 Per discussione James Ewen
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com wrote: I think we just have to be a bit conscious of project creep and that the map doesn't become too busy. I have to agree, however from the opposite side of the fence. Hydrology and elevation contours are major natural

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase Import - Where we stand now

2008-12-06 Per discussione James Ewen
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Michel Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However when i have done some tests to import Geobase data into osm I did not use intermidiate storage. Here's what i have done: Read osm data (bounding box) Read Geobase data in shape file (same bounding box)

Re: [Talk-ca] importing GeoBase Data (learning from TIGER)

2008-11-26 Per discussione James Ewen
Okay, 'splain this to me... Let's just say that we have the whole of Canada imported from Geobase. How does an update get processed? ie. Geobase makes a big update to it's database, and we want to update OSM from that? Will there need to be some ID tag on each way so that we don't just create a

Re: [Talk-ca] SOTM 2008: The State of The (Canada) Map

2008-07-08 Per discussione James Ewen
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:41 PM, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need to find and enlist GPS enabled users currently... I found out about OSM from the Geocaching community, if I recall correctly. Hmm, I Disagree again - I carry around a pack of 10 GPS units to lend to people at mapping

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