Re: [OSM-talk] replace some obviously mistaken surface values by their clear intended meaning

2023-02-11 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
sounds good to me On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 1:17 PM john whelan wrote: > Sounds wonderful. > > John > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 12:49 Mateusz Konieczny via talk < > talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> I propose to replace following surface tags by doing an automated edit: >> >> obvious typos: >> >>

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

2022-12-05 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
That is a good summary, though "Once the OSM available satellite imagery does not show the feature" is perhaps a bit too strict. Some things aren't always visible or clear from aerial imagery and need to be surveyed in person. I'm sure the intent of this phrase is not to encourage people to

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

2022-10-26 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:11 PM Greg Troxel wrote: > > I think people should keep in mind that a culture of deltionism is > demoralizing to contributors and harms OSM more than a few marginal > items in the database. > This is a fair point, but given how often this comes up, it doesn't seem

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

2022-10-25 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 4:37 AM Frederik Ramm wrote: > If someone does a > lot of good work for OSM otherwise and would really like to record an > ancient former railroad that ran through where their house now sits - I > shrug and let them do it. Only if someone starts to make it their > mission

Re: [Talk-us] Jefferson Notch Road and latest "GPS made me do it" in the news

2020-01-01 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
This looks like something that there still is not consensus on. Here are couple of roads that are not plowed in the winter in my area of Vermont. Both are tagged differently: Lincoln Gap Road: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19729533 VT 108 through Smugglers Notch:

Re: [Talk-us] Burlington, Vermont road classification

2012-10-18 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
100% agreed. I'm the other local mapper and I'm certainly not worked up about it. Andrew just asked my opinion about some changes he was thinking of making and my opinion didn't line up with his so we figured getting some additional opinions wouldn't be a bad idea. -- Zeke On Thursday,

Re: [Talk-us] Proposal: delete census-designated place polygons

2010-11-14 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
In my area some of the CDP boundaries do correspond to official administrative boundaries, and others do not. Deleting them all statewide would remove some good data. The data is good though, and the ones that aren't real boundaries usually are real places. For example there are several

Re: [Talk-us] tagging a national forest boundary

2010-10-01 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
This exact question is the reason why I haven't imported the Green Mountain National Forest in Vermont (well also the fact that I haven't figured out how to convert Shapefiles to OSM format yet, but anyhow….). My research leads me to believe the the National Forest Boundary is simply the area

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] layers in OSM?

2010-09-04 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
apologize for bringing up dead topic. I'd be interested to know what was said though. Zeke -- Zeke Farwell Burlington, VT, USA On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Eric Jarvies e...@csl.com.mx wrote: On Sep 4, 2010, at 6:57 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] layers in OSM?

2010-09-04 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Sure do. Quite useful. On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:59 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 5 September 2010 02:04, Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote: I've been thinking about layers for a while. In OSM we do not use layers for different types of features as one would

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] layers in OSM?

2010-09-04 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 3:32 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: yes, but it get's even harder when the information is split over several layers and you do edits without even seeing the data, because it is on a different layer. How could you maintain integrity and topology?

Re: [OSM-talk] What's wrong with this multipolygon?

2010-08-28 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote: As you know, Mapnik will render multipolygons correctly as long as all the ways form complete rings and are tagged with outer and inner as needed, but it turns out that Osmarender

Re: [OSM-talk] What's wrong with this multipolygon?

2010-08-27 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Nathan, I have run into similar issues with complicated multipolygons rendering just find in Mapnik but not fine in Osmarender. Another mapper (who's area I had temporarily broken) told me that the member ways of my relations were in the wrong order. At the time I primarily used Potlatch which

Re: [Talk-us] Over-digitized imports?

2010-08-24 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
In looking at some of those ways I'd say your simplification is completely warranted. The curves still look very smooth after you've removed 73% of the nodes. I agree with others that storage is cheap and saving space in the DB may not be that important. More nodes make for smoother, more

Re: [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-20 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 20-6-2010 0:53, Val Kartchner wrote: So, apparently we have to work it out ourselves before they'll even consider making the change. The problem is that once we add a tag to the stylesheet, and it starts rendering, it is

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-17 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.comwrote: mentioned earlier already. the ref tag is taken by a standardization in osm worldwide. sure osm is free and everyone is allowed to change things but then don't expect to get any useful rendering anywhere. it

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-17 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: You know that nat and int are short for national and international, right? Yup. If they are needed for something else then those tags can be avoided and a new one could be created (us_ref?). It just seems better to

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-16 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: 7 instead of US 7, NY 7, (7), etc. Yes. Thank You. I've never liked putting network prefixes in the ref tag. The reference number for United States Highway 7 is simply 7 not US 7. No one calls it US 7 either.

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-15 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Classifying by runway length does make some sense to me, but I really have no idea how Mapnik or any other renderer works. Not sure if this would in fact be easy or not. It also means a renderer needs the runway tagged as a way or polygon in order to make a decision. What is a renderer to do

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Steve, I like this as a possible solution as well. Perhaps the admin_level tag could be used? Same as for boundaries. The challenges in my eyes are not making the tagging scheme overly complicated, and making if verifiable based on physical characteristics. In my opinion OSM only needs three

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
at 11:33 PM, Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, I like this as a possible solution as well. Perhaps the admin_level tag could be used? Same as for boundaries. The challenges in my eyes are not making the tagging scheme overly complicated, and making if verifiable based

Re: [Talk-us] Changing Data Attribution

2010-06-13 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
The way I see it, any given feature may have many components to it's data. With a road you've got the geometry, name, classification, surface, etc…. . These components may all come from one source, or they make come from several. If the road is unmodified since the TIGER import then the source

[Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-12 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Hi everyone, You may or may not know that currently in OSM there is only one [rendered] tag to describe the many different types of places where planes can take off and land (aeroway=aerodrome). I'm trying to figure out how we can tag tiny airstrips and gigantic international airports

Re: [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-12 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Would something like this work, Val? Personal Airstrip: aeroway=aerodrome aerodrome=airstrip access=private RC Airstrip: aeroway=aerodrome aerodrome=rc_airstrip Another possibility for RC Airstrip: aeroway=aerodrome aerodrome=airstrip aircraft_type=radio_controlled On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at

Re: [Talk-us] Changeset to revert (or defend?)

2010-05-24 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Well said. Zeke On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: i think i have issues with both sides of this argument: as far as putting layer on a river, there's explicit language about that here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:layer as far as

Re: [Talk-us] Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Yes! I agree 100%. Zeke On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: It's time to retire ref=* on highway=* ways to describe attributes of the overlying route instead of the physical attributes of the way itself. Using the ref= tag on ways to describe routes

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-newbies] Fwd: Re: Re: Time to retire ref= on ways?

2010-03-08 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Part of Paul's original email: * Many bridges and tunnels have signed references that would actually be physical attributes of a way, but with the ref= tag on ways describing the overlying route instead of the way itself, makes it impossible to properly describe these attributes if ref= on a

Re: [Talk-us] Marking closed bridges

2009-12-17 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Christopher Covington c...@vt.edu wrote: I really think we should expand the meaning of the existing restriction tag. It was originally made for turn restrictions, and currently supports hours and days of the week, but there's no reason why it couldn't also

Re: [Talk-us] Marking closed bridges

2009-12-04 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
for that matter, there are roads in the Alps that don't get plowed, are there any european mappers following this list who know if those get tagged for seasonal closure, and if so, how? I've seen a variety of discussions about seasonal closures on the wiki, but none with lasting results.

Re: [Talk-us] Marking closed bridges

2009-12-03 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
The Crown Point bridge (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/28436071) comes to mind; it's constructed of non-reinforced concrete and was essentially condemned recently with only a few hours notice ( http://www.poststar.com/news/local/article_e77cd748-ba8b-11de-9ff0-001cc4c03286.html ).

Re: [Talk-us] Marking closed bridges

2009-12-03 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
something as simple as closed=yes/closed=temporary/closed=indefinite would seem to suffice. I like this proposal as it could also encompass regular seasonal closures. There are many roads through the mountains in Vermont that are generally closed from Nov 1st through May 30th each year due

Re: [Talk-us] Massachusetts topo map

2009-04-29 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Wow, that looks great! I'm psyched to see someone people like you working on US centric tileservers. Zeke On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Lars Ahlzen l...@ahlzen.com wrote: Hi OSMappers! I've been working on a topographic map based on OSM data, somewhat similar in style to the National

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] silly borders

2009-04-02 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
a member of the appropriate relations. Bit of a pain, but it's mostly done now. For the US/Canada border I've found the Canadian Geobase data to be more accurate than the TIGER data. Zeke Farwell Burlington, VT On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-03

Re: [Talk-us] National Park Boundaries

2009-02-20 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
. I think eventually another layer should be created that show the distinctions between BLM, USFS, NPS State Parks, etc In preparation for that we should definitely have a wiki page detailing how to tag these public land types. Zeke Farwell Burlington, VT On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Re: [Talk-us] US Route Tagging With Relations

2008-12-24 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Chris, Thanks for putting up that table. Looks great. I have two suggestions: I think the network identifiers should be simpler. What about this scheme? Interstate = Interstate signed highway system US = US signed highway system [state abbr.] = State signed highway system TX = Texas CA =

Re: [Talk-us] US Route Tagging With Relations

2008-12-24 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
Yeah we're getting a little ahead of ourselves with the shields. The first step is tagging the highways in a standard scheme which would give a renderer sufficient data to draw shields. Then someone has to actually build a renderer that draws the shields. Thats a whole other can of worms. I

[Talk-us] US Route Tagging With Relations

2008-12-23 Per discussione Zeke Farwell
that we all start using relations to tag numbered highways in the United States, and when Mapnik eventually gets around to rendering reference numbers from relations, we can stop using the ref tag on ways themselves entirely. Zeke Farwell Burlington, VT, USA