Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Mike Harris
At the risk of reopening earlier very lengthy discussions - this suggestion seems to me to be an unnecessary misuse of the tag highway=cycleway which has an accepted and fairly well agreed meaning. It also seems to be a prima facie case of tagging for the renderers! Surely it is the rendering that

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Dave Stubbs
2009/4/30 Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com: At the risk of reopening earlier very lengthy discussions - this suggestion seems to me to be an unnecessary misuse of the tag highway=cycleway which has an accepted and fairly well agreed meaning. It also seems to be a prima facie case of tagging

Re: [OSM-talk] Zonal restrictions.

2009-04-30 Per discussione Ben Laenen
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: Kurt Roeckx schrieb: I'm looking for a way to map restrictions for a zone. This includes things like maxspeed, maxweight and parking restriction. I want to avoid having to place those tags on all the roads inside the zone, specially for

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione James Stewart
There are lots of paths that are primarily footpaths, but bikes can go on them. I think that cycleway is best kept for paths that are designed and designated for bicycles. For example in our local park bikes can go on all the paths, but there are some specific divided cycle paths too. (We

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Nick Whitelegg
Risk?! Misuse how? Dave My idea: highway=cycleway OR (highway=footway,bicycle=permissive) don't care which (so will be picked up by bike-orientated maps) *and* foot=designated designation=public_footpath so that foot orientated renderers like Freemap will pick it up as a public right of

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Jacek Konieczny
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:36:43AM +0100, James Stewart wrote: There are lots of paths that are primarily footpaths, but bikes can go on them. I think that cycleway is best kept for paths that are designed and designated for bicycles. Sure. For example in our local park bikes can go on

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Mario Salvini
Jacek Konieczny schrieb: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:36:43AM +0100, James Stewart wrote: There are lots of paths that are primarily footpaths, but bikes can go on them. I think that cycleway is best kept for paths that are designed and designated for bicycles. Sure. For

[OSM-talk] Cloudmade Maps routing

2009-04-30 Per discussione Jonas Svensson
According to http://maps.cloudmade.com/ it is not possible to drive by car from Stensättaregatan (58.41685269735186 15.595479011535645) to Skräddaregatan (58.41647059846362 15.597131252288818). Is there some problem in the tagging of the streets or is it because the routing is a little too good at

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL 1.0 Release Candidate now available

2009-04-30 Per discussione Mike Collinson
The new text is available at http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/ and includes diff versions so that you can see clearly what changes are made. A summary of changes and the Open Data Commons comment process lasting up until May 6th is described here:

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Moved to Talk. Jochen Topf wrote Sent: 30 April 2009 8:41 AM To: d...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't? The discussion on using Cloudmade routing on the OSM website points to a deeper question: What is the OpenStreetMap project and how do we want to present it on

Re: [OSM-talk] Python API

2009-04-30 Per discussione Etienne Chové
Etienne Chové a écrit : Dears, I wrote a python class to communicate with OSM API (read, write, update). For interested users, informations are here [1]. May I put sources on the dev server ? Here it is : http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/src/modules/OsmApi.py -- Etienne

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Richard Mann
It comes down to what you think is meant by highway=cycleway. If you think that it means a cycle superhighway, then obviously you don't want to apply that to a shared-with-pedestrians route. But cycle superhighways are pretty rare, and highway=cycleway is used much more widely than that. I've come

Re: [OSM-talk] Zonal restrictions.

2009-04-30 Per discussione Pieren
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Greg Troxel and you define the relation to say that all ways in some area of some type should be in the relation. You try to use relations to define a category but : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Relations_are_not_Categories Pieren

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Jacek Konieczny
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 01:10:13PM +0200, Mario Salvini wrote: If such paths are designated for foot ans bicyle as well, why don't you tag them both as designated? highway=path foot=designated bicycle=designated ( or footway +bicycle=designated or cycleway+foot=desiganted) I do that, when

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Richard Mann
I feel like there's something slightly missing. Perhaps needs a mention of ever-more-accurate data, with the implication that it remains permanently and very-intentionally open to improvement by new people who see details that have been missed. I don't see OSM as providing data, more providing a

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Someoneelse
Richard Mann wrote: ... I've come to the view that cycleway should be used if someone's gone to the trouble to make it good enough to cycle on, and nobody's obviously objecting. I'd agree with that. As a non-cyclist I don't feel somehow discriminated against because somewhere that I walk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Nic Roets
Hi Jochen Andy, There is however a danger in leaving interpretation of the data solely to closed source projects (e.g. Cloudmade) : Because there is no agreement in the community on the exact meaning of many of our tags, it is possible that people may tag for the closed source project. Even

Re: [OSM-talk] Zonal restrictions.

2009-04-30 Per discussione Tobias Knerr
I'll focus on the coexistence vs. zone-only aspect, because most of the other problems can indeed be solved or mitigated by choosing a decent zone representation and throwing in some editor support and documentation. Ben Laenen wrote: - zonal mapping makes it more difficult to write software

[OSM-talk] toposm gets my vote for image of the week

2009-04-30 Per discussione maning sambale
Man! This should be a featured image: http://toposm.com/ma/?zoom=15lat=42.26621lon=-71.02104layers=B000 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog:

Re: [OSM-talk] Zonal restrictions.

2009-04-30 Per discussione Ben Laenen
On Thursday 30 April 2009, you wrote: So you assume that well-designed, liberally licensed (!= GPL) Open Source libraries will exist for all major programming languages and platforms soon? Well, until then, I'll continue to assume that the goal of OSM data being used in creative and unexpected

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Christoph Böhme
Hi everyone in my opinion OSM should not try to compete with mapping websites by offering more and more tools for using maps. This is because I think such an endeavour would have three problems: First, how to decide which of the hundreds of tools out there are integrated on the OSM website and

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Richard Mann
I'd support that highway=path needs to be rendered in the cycle map layer, especially now it's becoming clearer how it's being used (for raw paths as you describe them). The dark grey dashed lines in Mapnik seem a good starting point. If path was rendered then the problem kinda goes away - use

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Alan Wright
Christoph Böhme wrote: Hi everyone in my opinion OSM should not try to compete with mapping websites by offering more and more tools for using maps. This is because I think such an endeavour would have three problems: First, how to decide which of the hundreds of tools out there are

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Andy Allan
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: I'd support that highway=path needs to be rendered in the cycle map layer, especially now it's becoming clearer how it's being used Every time it gets discussed, it becomes *less* clear how it's being

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Andy Allan
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Alan Wright alanwright.a...@googlemail.com wrote: I think OpenStreetMap needs a shop window - perhaps a different website altogether. I disagree. OSM doesn't need a faked-up website to show what can be done. There's plenty of real places using the data for real

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Apollinaris Schoell
full ack some tags are too confusing ... on a lighter note: from tagwatch typo or protest against a very_horrible tag ;-) smoothmess horrible (4), impassable (1) On 30 Apr 2009, at 8:59 , Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Richard Mann

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Ben Laenen
On Thursday 30 April 2009, Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: I'd support that highway=path needs to be rendered in the cycle map layer, especially now it's becoming clearer how it's being used Every time it gets

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag oneway exceptions? Oneway except residents?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Paul Johnson
Eddy Petrișor wrote: Paul Johnson a scris: Ben Laenen wrote: On Sunday 26 April 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: Renaud MICHEL schrieb: I didn't find an answer in the wiki, how should I tag roads that are one way for motorized vehicles but two way for bicycle? The documented and established way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Martin Simon
2009/4/30, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com: Every time it gets discussed, it becomes *less* clear how it's being used to me. And I'm mightily concerned that the 10 people discussing it on these lists might be in no way representative of the 14,990 people who are mapping paths and aren't

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Alan Wright wrote: I'm not only thinking of the standard slippy-map, but contour layers, routing, poi's, etc, etc. Contrary to what some people make you believe, OSM does not have contour layers or elevation data. There's much talk about a possible sister project (open elevation map?

Re: [OSM-talk] German Shapefile, federal states?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Torsten Mohr
Ouch, that's bad. i thought they'd contain some actual data, size implied that. I wonder if anybody knows a way to render the 16 German federal states (Bundesländer)? Actually that's what i want to do in the end.. Is there a way to find out what is in a Shapefile? Like that i can write

Re: [OSM-talk] German Shapefile, federal states?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Torsten Mohr wrote: Is there a way to find out what is in a Shapefile? Use a GIS program like QGIS to open and display the shapefile and you can see what's there! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Mike Harris
Fully agree - and this seems to be in the spirit of most current practice ... Mike Harris -Original Message- From: James Stewart [mailto:j.k.stew...@ed.ac.uk] Sent: 30 April 2009 11:37 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes There are

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Mike Harris
Mario - perhaps inadvertently, but importantly - raises a separate issue for those of us who like the tag designation= . This tag is afaik a more recent introduction than designated= . Although the intention was much the same in each case the wiki descriptions are subtly different. My personal

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Mike Harris
... Part way with James but recognising Jacek's point it would need adding bicycle=permissive or bicycle=yes as appropriate so that the cycle renderers pick up. Where appropriate (e.g. often in the UK) the use of designation=public_footpath (meaning that the default is bicycle=no unless

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Mike Harris
Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:gravityst...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 April 2009 17:00 To: Richard Mann Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Richard Mann

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Mike Harris
I could more or less go with this too - but perhaps only if we could adopt more widely the use of designation= (or designated= - see earlier post!) to allow the definition of legal status (mostly in the UK admittedly) for those of us who are public rights of way workers. Is there a case for adding

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Mike Harris
... Hmm! Interesting alternative approach ... Not sure what I think ... Worth discussing ... By now everyone who cares knows that I like the designation= tag as it solves a lot of problems for me but that is equally compatible with Ben's approach as with any other. Mike Harris -Original

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Hillsman, Edward
I'm one of the people mapping paths (since March) who scans this list, and I have to say that I'm confused. Although part of that may be because I'm new to OSM and not just to the matter of how to deal with tagging and rendering things. And part of that may because a lot of the tagging conventions

[OSM-talk] Mapping Sundderland - Venue confirmed!

2009-04-30 Per discussione Gregory
Hi all, Andy has sorted out a venue for the Sunderland Mapping Party this weekend. It's a couple of miles North on the seafront of Seaburn. Saturday 2nd Sunday 4th May Approx. 10am to 5pm each day Marriott Hotel, Queens Parade, Sunderland, SR6 8DB Phone: 44 191 5292041. Map

Re: [OSM-talk] German Shapefile, federal states?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Hello, Torsten. I think the 16 german federal states (lander) are available as a shapefile in lots of different places. Here is one example: http://wetnet.net/~we7u/xastir/maps/shapefile/Germany/ That is a shapefile (compressed) with 16 polygons, and you also have the population and

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Alan Wright
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Alan Wright alanwright.a...@googlemail.com wrote: I think OpenStreetMap needs a shop window - perhaps a different website altogether. I disagree. OSM doesn't need a faked-up website to show what can be done. There's plenty of real places using the data for

Re: [OSM-talk] toposm gets my vote for image of the week

2009-04-30 Per discussione OJ W
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_image_proposals#TopOSM On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:27 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Man!  This should be a featured image: http://toposm.com/ma/?zoom=15lat=42.26621lon=-71.02104layers=B000

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Alan Wright wrote: Sent: 30 April 2009 9:43 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't? On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Alan Wright alanwright.a...@googlemail.com wrote: I think OpenStreetMap needs a shop window - perhaps a different website

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Sundderland - Venue confirmed!

2009-04-30 Per discussione Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Just a small correction to Gregory's note, Sunday is of course May 3rd. Hope to see some of you on Sat or Sun. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Sent: 30 April 2009 7:56 PM To: Talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Paul Johnson
Richard Mann wrote: Why not tag it as a cycleway? Then it will display as a cycleway. How is it different from anything else that might be tagged as a cycleway? At least when I'm trying to decide, I ask two questions: 1) Does it allow bicycles, and 2) Is it wide enough for two cyclists going

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Paul Johnson
Richard Mann wrote: It comes down to what you think is meant by highway=cycleway. If you think that it means a cycle superhighway, then obviously you don't want to apply that to a shared-with-pedestrians route. Depends on jurisdiction, of course. One problem OSM has with handling Oregon and

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of footways with bicycle=yes

2009-04-30 Per discussione Paul Johnson
Jacek Konieczny wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 01:10:13PM +0200, Mario Salvini wrote: If such paths are designated for foot ans bicyle as well, why don't you tag them both as designated? highway=path foot=designated bicycle=designated ( or footway +bicycle=designated or

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - surface_unification

2009-04-30 Per discussione Per
Proposal page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/surface_unification Proposal discussion http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/surface_unification Please read the talk-page before commenting on this! Introduction: This proposal should improve the current

[OSM-talk] mapof / osmarender export broken

2009-04-30 Per discussione Stefan Baebler
MapOf [1], which is called from the export tab on the main map page, currently only produces an error instead of nice, big Osmarender maps. Stefan [1] http://tah.openstreetmap.org/MapOf/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-04-30 Per discussione Stephan Plepelits
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 08:22:42PM +0200, Colin Marquardt wrote: 2009/4/30 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Stephan Plepelits wrote: In my opionion we should produce a page with featured applications, with a link from the mainpage (before Help Wiki i would propose). Last year

[Talk-in] Mapping an area from a satellite view

2009-04-30 Per discussione Guillaume Audirac
Hello, I would like to map areas (like the Kabini lake) from the Yahoo! Aerial Imagery, but without sketching them manually (as I can do in Potlatch). I was thinking using Gimp on the satellite view to extract an outline and to import it as a way, somehow in Potlatch or JOSM. Then rescaling and

Re: [Talk-in] Mapping an area from a satellite view

2009-04-30 Per discussione Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 30 April 2009 14:11:48 Guillaume Audirac wrote: I would like to map areas (like the Kabini lake) from the Yahoo! Aerial Imagery, but without sketching them manually (as I can do in Potlatch). I was thinking using Gimp on the satellite view to extract an outline and to import it as

Re: [Talk-it] Confronto tra OSM e una cartina escursionistica

2009-04-30 Per discussione Federico Cozzi
2009/4/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: volevo chiedere come vanno le cose. Mi ha scritto Nop (della Mappa dei Io stavo preparando la macchina virtuale ma sono fermo da una settimana. Non è ancora usabile (manca mapnik e altro) performance. Lui chiede se possiamo ospitarla. Offre

Re: [Talk-it] autorizzazione utilizzo dati Regione Lombardia

2009-04-30 Per discussione Vezzo
2009/4/28 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com Ciao, Ciao Sabato mi è arrivata lettera da parte della Giunta della Regione Lombardia - Servizio SIT, in cui, a seguito di una mia richiesta di dicembre 2008, viene autorizzato all'intero gruppo OpenStreetMap l'inserimento di tutti i dati

Re: [Talk-it] autorizzazione utilizzo dati Regione Lombardia

2009-04-30 Per discussione Federico Cozzi
2009/4/30 Vezzo vezz...@gmail.com: Fantastica notizia, quindi adesso si possono utilizzare ma quali? ne ho visti un po'. soprattutto si possono avere anche gli indirizzi da usare in josm di quello che si può usare?? Per il momento non userei il WMS in JOSM a causa dello shift che non siamo

Re: [Talk-it] Confronto tra OSM e una cartina escursionistica

2009-04-30 Per discussione Giovanni Fasano
Federico Cozzi dixit: 2009/4/30 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: volevo chiedere come vanno le cose. Mi ha scritto Nop (della Mappa dei Io stavo preparando la macchina virtuale ma sono fermo da una settimana. Non è ancora usabile (manca mapnik e altro) potrebbe essere

Re: [Talk-it] autorizzazione utilizzo dati Regione Lombardia

2009-04-30 Per discussione Simone Cortesi
2009/4/30 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: La mia domanda è: qual è la stringa esatta da usare per il copyright? non l'ho ancora pubblicata, sono in questo momento quanto di piu' lontano si possa essere da uno scanner... :) -- -S ___ Talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] autorizzazione utilizzo dati Regione Lombardia

2009-04-30 Per discussione Elena of Valhalla
2009/4/30 Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com: Per il momento non userei il WMS in JOSM a causa dello shift che non siamo riusciti a rimuovere. La cosa migliore (attualmente) sarebbe fare il download dei dati in formato SHP, quindi convertirli con shp2osm e fare l'upload (massivo o manuale a

Re: [Talk-it] autorizzazione utilizzo dati Regione Lombardia

2009-04-30 Per discussione Roberto Moretti
La cosa migliore (attualmente) sarebbe fare il download dei dati in formato SHP, quindi convertirli con shp2osm e fare l'upload (massivo o manuale a scelta) Personalmente sono contrario all'upload massimo. Inserire manualmente piccole zone per volta consente un lavoro più accurato, anche se

Re: [Talk-it] autorizzazione utilizzo dati Regione Lombardia

2009-04-30 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 30 aprile 2009 10.35, Roberto Moretti ilr...@gmail.com ha scritto: La cosa migliore (attualmente) sarebbe fare il download dei dati in formato SHP, quindi convertirli con shp2osm e fare l'upload (massivo o manuale a scelta) Personalmente sono contrario all'upload massimo. Inserire

Re: [Talk-it] autorizzazione utilizzo dati Regione Lombardia

2009-04-30 Per discussione Vezzo
2009/4/30 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com Personalmente sono contrario all'upload massimo. Inserire manualmente piccole zone per volta consente un lavoro più accurato, anche se più lungo. Sono penamente d'accordo dato che ho già trovato alcune cose sbagliate nel mio comune, infatti

[Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione Luigi Pirelli
ciao mappatori Lucani e Puglisi, e perche' no... di tutto il resto d'italia :) ancora in dubbio se passare un fantastico sabato a Matera patrimonio dell'Unesco? se non la conoscete, rimarrete senza fiato! portatevi i vostri GPS e portati... anceh se c'e' chi portare' qualche GPS in piu' nel

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione Alessandro De Noia
Il giorno Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:43:16 +0200 Luigi Pirelli l.pire...@acsys.it ha scritto: Pomeriggio: MAPPINGPARTY a cura della comunità OpenStreetMap Mappatura con GPS del centro città... è solo l'inizio Pomeriggio: Mappo ergo Scarico a cura di OpenStreetMap

[Talk-it] Bicitalia

2009-04-30 Per discussione Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi
Luca, qualche novità su dove si svolgeranno i vari eventi? c'e' un link in cui guardare ed al quale puntare dalla nostra wiki? Edo -- Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi ICT Consultant Tel +39.347.008.00.02 website: http://www.edoardomarascalchi.it skype: My status skype:asca_edom?call

Re: [Talk-it] Bicitalia

2009-04-30 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 30 aprile 2009 13.00, Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi edoa...@edoardomarascalchi.it ha scritto: Luca, qualche novità su dove si svolgeranno i vari eventi? non ancora, ieri sera c'era il consiglio di fiab e all'ordine del giorno c'era appunto bicitalia c'e' un link in cui guardare ed al quale

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alessandro De Noia ha scritto: Il giorno Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:43:16 +0200 Luigi Pirelli l.pire...@acsys.it ha scritto: Io e Alessandro siamo entrambi di Terlizzi, ma ormai ci sentiamo più su internet che dal vivo :D Pomeriggio: MAPPINGPARTY a

Re: [Talk-it] Confronto tra OSM e una cartina escursionistica

2009-04-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/4/30 Giovanni Fasano g...@gvf.ve.it: Io stavo preparando la macchina virtuale ma sono fermo da una settimana. Non è ancora usabile (manca mapnik e altro) OK, in teoria è diventato meno urgente, perché lui è stato offerto dello spazio da qualche altre parte, pero lui scrisse che cmq. è

Re: [Talk-it] Dati Provincia di Bologna

2009-04-30 Per discussione albertobonati
Gianmario Mengozzi ha scritto: Alberto, hai avuto poi news dalla provincia? Non ancora. Ho mandato una email prima alla Provincia e poi direttamente al responsabile del SIT ma ancora nulla. Aspetto ancora un po' e poi pensavo di contattarlo al telefono se non riceverò risposta. Appena ho

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 30 aprile 2009 13.47, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com ha scritto: Penso che per iniziare sia più che sufficiente, non mi piacerebbe che tante persone che sabato inizieranno a conoscere OSM, non appena arrivate a casa, registrino due tracce e tentino di installare Mapnik in

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione niubii
Luigi Pirelli ha scritto: ciao mappatori Lucani e Puglisi, e perche' no... di tutto il resto d'italia :) ancora in dubbio se passare un fantastico sabato a Matera patrimonio dell'Unesco? se non la conoscete, rimarrete senza fiato! portatevi i vostri GPS e portati... anceh se c'e' chi

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione Federico Cozzi
2009/4/30 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: se mi date accesso ssh a una macchina debian like ve lo installo io e vi metto a posto tutto Ti prendo in parola - prima o poi ti contatto per un'assistenza remota ;-) Ciao ___ Talk-it mailing list

[Talk-it] osmit 2009

2009-04-30 Per discussione Cristina Moretto
Ciao, sulla pagina web della conferenza osmit.fbk.eu abbiamo pubblicato una bozza del programma. L'elenco degli interventi non e' ancora definitivo in quanto aspettiamo ancora alcune conferme. Come potete leggere i contributi acquisiscono 4 forme: - talk - discussioni - lavoro di gruppo -

Re: [Talk-it] osmit 2009

2009-04-30 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 30 aprile 2009 14.11, Cristina Moretto more...@fbk.eu ha scritto: Sentitevi liberi di dire tutto quello che pensate. non sapevo del costo dell'iscrizione, secondo me è una cavolata e scoraggerà la gente comune a partecipare -- Cristina Moretto ciao Luca

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/4/30 Alessandro De Noia alessandro.den...@gmail.com: Oggi è già giovedi e non ho proprio il tempo di vedermi l'installazione di mapnik su Arch, a saperlo prima avrei guardato qualcosa. A Kosmos avevo pensato anche io ma non avendo Windows avevo desistito. non ti preoccupare, alla fine

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione ZeNo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Ave, ma mica è indispensabile avere mapnik o simili? Per una buona fase di apprendimento non è sufficiente usare un josm e fermarsi lì? Cmq ci si vede sabato! Dal Baslug verremo in 5 forse 6, quasi tutti con GPS :D Martin Koppenhoefer ha

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione Alessandro De Noia
Il giorno Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:10:35 +0200 ZeNo z...@baslug.org ha scritto: Ave, ma mica è indispensabile avere mapnik o simili? Per una buona fase di apprendimento non è sufficiente usare un josm e fermarsi lì? Cmq ci si vede sabato! Dal Baslug verremo in 5 forse 6, quasi tutti con

Re: [Talk-it] osmit 2009

2009-04-30 Per discussione Cristina Moretto
Luca Delucchi wrote: Il 30 aprile 2009 14.11, Cristina Moretto more...@fbk.eu ha scritto: Sentitevi liberi di dire tutto quello che pensate. non sapevo del costo dell'iscrizione, secondo me è una cavolata e scoraggerà la gente comune a partecipare La questione e' che a Povo l'alternativa

[Talk-it] Corrispondenza tra tiles e coordinate (e altre amenità sulle tiles)

2009-04-30 Per discussione Alessandro De Noia
Salve a tutti, mi trovo in difficoltà per il mini software [1] che sto scrivendo per OSMit. Oltre alla mappa dinamica, per la quale ho già contattato Mario Piccinelli, vorrei riuscire a produrre una mappa statica formata dall'unione delle diverse tiles su cui posizionare un marker per ogni evento.

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione ZeNo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Alessandro De Noia ha scritto: Come diceva Martin bastano anche carta e penna, mapnik (o altri renderer) servono solo ad effettuare il rendering, in tempo reale, delle tracce raccolte durante il mapping party. Si, so a cosa servono :) Infatti

Re: [Talk-it] Corrispondenza tra tiles e coordinate (e altre amenità sulle tiles)

2009-04-30 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 30 aprile 2009 15.41, Alessandro De Noia alessandro.den...@gmail.com ha scritto: Salve a tutti, mi trovo in difficoltà per il mini software [1] che sto scrivendo per OSMit. Oltre alla mappa dinamica, per la quale ho già contattato Mario Piccinelli, vorrei riuscire a produrre una mappa

Re: [Talk-it] osmit 2009

2009-04-30 Per discussione Antonio Quartulli
Cristina Moretto ha scritto: Luca Delucchi wrote: Il 30 aprile 2009 14.11, Cristina Moretto more...@fbk.eu ha scritto: Sentitevi liberi di dire tutto quello che pensate. non sapevo del costo dell'iscrizione, secondo me è una cavolata e scoraggerà la gente comune a partecipare La

Re: [Talk-it] Corrispondenza tra tiles e coordinate (e altre amenità sulle tiles)

2009-04-30 Per discussione Alessandro De Noia
Il giorno Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:11:20 +0200 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: scusa ma se invece di generare le tile generi un'immagine singola può andare bene o no? ciao Luca L'immagine non verrà generata dal sw, ma verranno scaricate le tile necessarie, in formato png, dal

Re: [Talk-it] osmit 2009

2009-04-30 Per discussione niubii
Cristina Moretto ha scritto: Sentitevi liberi di dire tutto quello che pensate. HURRA'! Ciao /niubii/ Nessun virus nel messaggio in uscita. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 8.5.287 / Database dei virus: 270.12.9/2087 - Data di rilascio: 04/29/09 18:03:00

Re: [Talk-it] osmit 2009

2009-04-30 Per discussione Cristina Moretto
Antonio Quartulli wrote: Scusate l'intervento, ma e` necessario ai fini organizzativi di alcune persone che da non troppo vicino vorrebbero venire ad assistere alla conferenza. Vorrei chiedere: anche un'eventuale partecipazione di un solo giorno, senza usufruire dei pranzi, costera` 25

Re: [Talk-it] osmit 2009

2009-04-30 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 30 aprile 2009 16.50, Cristina Moretto more...@fbk.eu ha scritto: Ciao, 25 euro e' il minimo assoluto per garantire il funzionamento organizzativo. Provate a confrontare con qualsiasi altro evento di tre giorni e vedrete cifre ben differenti. grass meeting 3 giorni, super buffet ecc ecc

Re: [Talk-it] Sab 2 Maggio: MappingParty a Matera!!!

2009-04-30 Per discussione massimo di stefano
Ciao a Tutti, ... mi unisco al thread, non so se sarà utile ma nella live - DVD di gfoss, che sarà distribuita a matera, sono installati alcuni sw tra cui josm, mapnic osm2pg e varie utility per gps (gpsd, gpsbabel,gpsdrive ... qualcos'altro) c'è anche un db postgis vuoto che può essere

Re: [Talk-it] Corrispondenza tra tiles e coordinate (e altre amenità sulle tiles)

2009-04-30 Per discussione Luca Delucchi
Il 30 aprile 2009 16.25, Alessandro De Noia alessandro.den...@gmail.com ha scritto: L'immagine non verrà generata dal sw, ma verranno scaricate le tile necessarie, in formato png, dal tile server di osm (esattamente come fa tangogps). E' possibile scaricare immagini intere? Se si, sarebbe

Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values for boundary=administrative

2009-04-30 Per discussione maning sambale
Eugene and all, Are you proposing this scheme for admin_levels? (first row is Eugene's proposal as I understand it) 2 -- 2 - National Border (this is a worldwide convention, so there will be no 3 -- 4 - Regions 4 -- 6 - Provinces 5 -- Districts? 6 -- 8 - Cities and municipalities 8 -- 9 -

Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values for boundary=administrative

2009-04-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi maning, Actually, I mentioned in my e-mail that I have specifically excluded congressional districts[1] from the discussion since these do not specify administrative boundaries. Aside from the pork barrel, the representatives don't *administer* their territories. I think these should be tagged

Re: [talk-ph] Reviving plan(s) for Tagaytay Mapping party

2009-04-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
I'm good with May 16. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I've posted the tagaytay mapping party announcement to several people, mailinglist and my blog. Please help in populating more information in the tagaytay mapping party page to help

Re: [talk-ph] Reviving plan(s) for Tagaytay Mapping party

2009-04-30 Per discussione Ed Garcia
Hi, I will try my best to clear my schedules on the morning of May 16 so I can at least meet with you guys in person. Might not be able to map much as I will be on my way to Batangas by noon. Where is our meeting place? thanks ed On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, maning sambale

Re: [talk-ph] Reviving plan(s) for Tagaytay Mapping party

2009-04-30 Per discussione maning sambale
Alright, sige lets post an announcement (blogs, OSM diary, mailinglist, yahoogroups). On 4/30/09, Nacario Neil nbnaca...@yahoo.com wrote: good to go - Original Message From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Re: [talk-ph] Reviving plan(s) for Tagaytay Mapping party

2009-04-30 Per discussione Nacario Neil
good to go - Original Message From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:10:05 PM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Reviving plan(s) for Tagaytay Mapping party Last call for confirming the date: May 16 in Tagaytay Is the

Re: [talk-ph] Reviving plan(s) for Tagaytay Mapping party

2009-04-30 Per discussione maning sambale
I suggest somewhere here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.102332lon=120.951185zoom=18layers=B000FTF We can choose among the restaurants there for the meeting place (one where there's beer and free wifi). Is it too crowded during weekends? @ ed: I posted the mapping party announcement in

Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values forboundary=administrative

2009-04-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Marloue, Slightly off-topic question. Since you're from Davao City, are residents of the city adamant about insisting that Davao City is separate from Davao del Sur? *Some* people from Zamboanga City are positively vocal (and sometimes actually hostile!) whenever people say they are part of

Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values for boundary=administrative

2009-04-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi maning, For your second question, well Ian and I are already converting and implementing the borders in Metro Manila as relations (though the admin_levels are still not finalized). For example, see this relation for Brgy. Urdaneta in Makati: http://openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/103686 Or

Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values for boundary=administrative

2009-04-30 Per discussione maning sambale
Nice! I better start adding marikina boundaries then (well until we agree on the proposal) cheers, maning still at work! midway to finishing the image processing. For example, see this relation for Brgy. Urdaneta in Makati: http://openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/103686 Or this relation

[talk-ph] Chartered Cities

2009-04-30 Per discussione Marloue Pidor
I created a separate thread for this to give focus to the original topic. What I said is actually true, in March 1, 1937 (but Araw ng Dabaw is in March 16) Davao City is inaugurated by President Manuel L. Quezon as a chartered city by then Davao City is separated from Davao del Sur. Unlike Davao

Re: [talk-ph] Manila East Road, Manila North Road, Manila South Road

2009-04-30 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
I guess the DPWH is the agency that should know about these things? I'm not actually familiar with the Manila East,South,North road system. I'm just familiar (somewhat) with the Radial and Circumferential Road system of Metro Manila. As a bit of trivia, did you know that Republic Act No. 8224 (

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