Re: [OSM-talk-nl] JOSM plugin "Ga naar" ontwikkeling.

2019-10-07 Per discussione Marc Gemis
Je bedoelt zoiets als dit : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/utilsplugin2#Use_custom_URL_.28Shift.2BH.29 ? mvg m On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 12:23 PM Allroads wrote: > > Hallo, > > Er is ondertussen veel data, die we mogen gebruiken voor mapping/tagging in > Openstreetmap. > Data,

Re: [talk-au] Discussion K: Evaluation of ACT paths audit 2012 and the OSM ACT dataset

2019-10-07 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
This is getting ridiculous. Richard -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Australia-f5416966.html ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ZIP codes from OSM in non-compatible licensed dataset

2019-10-07 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 7. Oct 2019, at 19:48, Kathleen Lu via legal-talk > wrote: > > In my view, if you are keeping the two zip codes in different columns and not > removing duplicates, then essentially what you have is one property that is > "OSM ZIP" and one property that is

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 20:03, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/10/19 19:57, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I added this to the ATG as amenity=community_centre + > community_centre:for=man, > > > 'man' may mean both men and women. On the other hand it maybe the original > use was for males

[talk-au] Discussion K: Evaluation of ACT paths audit 2012 and the OSM ACT dataset

2019-10-07 Per discussione Herbert.Remi via Talk-au
# Discussion K: Evaluation of ACT paths audit 2012 and the OSM ACT dataset ## The Issue It is clear from the OSM dataset for in the ACT, that it is the product of using the editor presets for paths. The OSM Australian Tagging Guidelines (ATG) is consistent with the real use and the legal

[talk-cz] Pozvánka na mapathon a hackathon

2019-10-07 Per discussione Jan Macura
Zdravím ve spolek, přijměte prosím pozvání na 2. mapathon Missing Maps v Plzni, který se bude konat tento pátek 11. 10. v TechHeaven (přihlášení zde ). Zároveň vás zvu na vůbec první hackathon s Lékaři bez hranic v ČR,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ZIP codes from OSM in non-compatible licensed dataset

2019-10-07 Per discussione Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:16 AM Lars-Daniel Weber wrote: > From: "Kathleen Lu via legal-talk" > > In my view, if you are keeping the two zip codes in different columns > > and not removing duplicates, then essentially what you have is one > > property that is "OSM ZIP" and one property that is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ZIP codes from OSM in non-compatible licensed dataset

2019-10-07 Per discussione Lars-Daniel Weber
From: "Kathleen Lu via legal-talk" > In my view, if you are keeping the two zip codes in different columns > and not removing duplicates, then essentially what you have is one > property that is "OSM ZIP" and one property that is "proprietary ZIP", > and they are two different properties that are

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] map drawn based on OSM tiles

2019-10-07 Per discussione Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
> Thus, assuming the shapefiles are essentially the equivalent of > > simplified OSM border shapefiles, the shapefiles are covered by ODbL. > > Actually, it's like 40% OSM borders (hard borders, like roads, rivers, > topography and administrative stuff) and 60% own borders, which don't > appear

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] map drawn based on OSM tiles

2019-10-07 Per discussione Lars-Daniel Weber via legal-talk
From: "Kathleen Lu via legal-talk" > So if what is extracted is solely what was in the database, then the > extraction is not > material that the tile license covered (the tile license cannot actually > change the license of the data, which is ODbL, as that would be > impermissible under ODbL).

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ZIP codes from OSM in non-compatible licensed dataset

2019-10-07 Per discussione Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
In my view, if you are keeping the two zip codes in different columns and not removing duplicates, then essentially what you have is one property that is "OSM ZIP" and one property that is "proprietary ZIP", and they are two different properties that are not used to improve each other, so it is a

[OSM-talk] An own platform for tagging related discussions

2019-10-07 Per discussione Valor Naram
Hey, see also https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-September/083286.html (Tagging Goverance) and upfollowing discussion. Some of you and I mentioned that it might be necessary to switch from a mailing list "tagging" to another communication platform like Gitlab (or other git

[Talk-it] OSMit 2020

2019-10-07 Per discussione mbranco2
Ciao Lista, riprendo quanto discusso poco tempo fa [1] riguardo a come organizzare la giornata di sabato 22 febbraio 2020 al convegno di Torino su Software e Dati Geografici Free e Open Source [2]. In questi giorni ho riscontrato da più parti un forte interesse perché OSMit sia denso di contenuti

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Lieux-dits Fantoir surfaciques

2019-10-07 Per discussione osm . sanspourriel
Le 06/10/2019 à 21:17, Christian Rogel - christian.ro...@club-internet.fr a écrit : Le 5 oct. 2019 à 13:39, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : En général les endroits habités ont une représentation surfacique. Où peut-on la trouver ? Le

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] map drawn based on OSM tiles

2019-10-07 Per discussione Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
In my mind, the tile license (CC-BY-SA) sits on top of the database license, as the license to a produced work by the OSMF. So if what is extracted is solely what was in the database, then the extraction is not material that the tile license covered (the tile license cannot actually change the

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] JOSM plugin "Ga naar" ontwikkeling.

2019-10-07 Per discussione Stefan de Konink
On Thursday, October 3, 2019 12:29:06 PM CEST, Allroads wrote: Wat denken jullie van het plan en de uitvoerbaarheid? Het is een goed plan, mits je het in tweeen kan splitsen. De JOSM voorkant is slim, zeker voor OpenStreetMap gebruikers, maar het feit dat je weet bij wie je moet zijn als je

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sur 01net L’incroyable histoire de Waze, la carte routière la plus précise au monde... conçue par des bénévoles

2019-10-07 Per discussione HELFER Denis (SNCF RESEAU / SIEGE SNCF RESEAU / DT GE PPE)
C’est curieux l’article n’aborde pas la question : comment Waze a été/est financé. 520 employés c’est un budget, non ? Ca doit intéresser personne, sans doute. Un indice : https://www.capital.fr/entreprises-marches/comment-waze-brasse-des-millions-grace-a-vous-1341068 Denis De : Christian

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sur 01net L’incroyable histoire de Waze, la carte routière la plus précise au monde... conçue par des bénévoles

2019-10-07 Per discussione Christian Quest
Waze, en France, a été initialisé avec un filaire routier dont je ne connais pas la source. Il ne possédait pas les noms de rues ou routes, ni d'infos sur leur type ou sens de circulation. Je m'en rappelle plutôt bien car j'ai pas mal ajouté d'infos comme les noms dans Waze avant de découvrir

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Géocodage : différence entre les API

2019-10-07 Per discussione Christian Quest
J'ai plusieurs instances d'addok avec différents référentiels sur addok.xyz: - ban.addok.xyz : c'est la BAN "ODbL" qui est derrière - bano.addok.xyz: c'est BANO - poi.addok.xyz: ce sont les POI d'OSM - demo.addok.xyz: c'est BANO + POI + Geonames, l'idée étant de voir comment addok se comporte sur

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] map drawn based on OSM tiles

2019-10-07 Per discussione Lars-Daniel Weber
From: "Simon Poole" > I'm not ruling out the first interpretation either and potentially both > licenses would have to apply in full (which isn't possible without > conflict). I would like to clarify once again that I really do want to attribute OSM. But it's damn difficult for me to find out

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] map drawn based on OSM tiles

2019-10-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 07.10.2019 um 01:23 schrieb Lars-Daniel Weber: > I thought, whenever you re-digitize OSM data from a printed map, it would get > ODbL again. According to current ruling by European Court of Justice, a > printed map is just a database (it has been judged for a German topographical > map in

Re: [Talk-it] inserimento postamat piccoli comuni

2019-10-07 Per discussione Andreas Lattmann
>...e magari anche con licenza libera? Non mi aspetto nulla da una >s.p.a. >che blinda persino i codici di avviamento postale Dura realtà quella dei CAP... ed assurda. Il 6 ottobre 2019 22:27:45 CEST, Cascafico Giovanni ha scritto: >Il dom 6 ott 2019, 20:11 Lorenzo Rolla ha >scritto: > >*Mi

Re: [Talk-it] inserimento postamat piccoli comuni

2019-10-07 Per discussione Andreas Lattmann
> >natural=christmas_tree >oppure > >artificial=tree >+ >christmas_tree=yes > >? È un albero particolare...  genus=Ilex leaf_cycle=evergreen leaf_type=broadleaved natural=tree species=Ilex aquifolium xmas:feature=tree xmas:location=L' albero si trova in centro ad una piazzetta di fronte al

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 07.10.2019 um 15:50 schrieb David Woolley: > On 07/10/2019 14:23, Mark Goodge wrote: >> The ONS website explicitly states that their postcode products are OGL > > The OGL only applies to the parts of the data that relevant government > organisation has the ability to grant rights to.  It

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 07.10.2019 um 15:50 schrieb David Woolley: > On 07/10/2019 14:23, Mark Goodge wrote: >> The ONS website explicitly states that their postcode products are OGL > > The OGL only applies to the parts of the data that relevant government > organisation has the ability to grant rights to.  It

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/10/2019 14:50, David Woolley wrote: On 07/10/2019 14:23, Mark Goodge wrote: The ONS website explicitly states that their postcode products are OGL The OGL only applies to the parts of the data that relevant government organisation has the ability to grant rights to.  It excepts

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-07 Per discussione David Woolley
On 07/10/2019 14:23, Mark Goodge wrote: The ONS website explicitly states that their postcode products are OGL The OGL only applies to the parts of the data that relevant government organisation has the ability to grant rights to. It excepts "third party rights the Information Provider is

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Mark Goodge
On 07/10/2019 11:43, Simon Poole wrote: Am 03.10.2019 um 10:26 schrieb Mark Goodge: ONSPD solves this problem, because it includes the "large user" flag. It's the nature of the beast that when we are discussing OGL licensed datasets that when something turns up that was previously

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-07 Per discussione David Woolley
On 07/10/2019 11:43, Simon Poole wrote: It's the nature of the beast that when we are discussing OGL licensed datasets that when something turns up that was previously thought to be part of a proprietary dataset all alarm bells go off. Do you know how they derived that flag and if there is

[Talk-ca] hebdoOSM Nº 480 2019-09-24-2019-09-30

2019-10-07 Per discussione theweekly . osm
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 480 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12433/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 480 2019-09-24-2019-09-30

2019-10-07 Per discussione theweekly . osm
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 480 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12433/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

[Talk-ht] hebdoOSM Nº 480 2019-09-24-2019-09-30

2019-10-07 Per discussione theweekly . osm
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 480 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12433/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

[Talk-africa] hebdoOSM Nº 480 2019-09-24-2019-09-30

2019-10-07 Per discussione theweekly . osm
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 480 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12433/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Andrew Harvey
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 21:03, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/10/19 19:57, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > I added this to the ATG as amenity=community_centre + > community_centre:for=man, > > > 'man' may mean both men and women. On the other hand it maybe the original > use was for males

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Simon Poole
Am 03.10.2019 um 10:26 schrieb Mark Goodge: > > ONSPD solves this problem, because it includes the "large user" flag. > > It's the nature of the beast that when we are discussing OGL licensed datasets that when something turns up that was previously thought to be part of a proprietary dataset all

Re: [Talk-cat] Importació centres docents a Catalunya

2019-10-07 Per discussione Lanxana .
Bon dia, sí, així és, l'script ha de convertir els camps del csv o xml (el format que et vagi més bé) a format osm amb l'etiquetat detallat. He vist que em vaig oblidar posar a la taula que a tots els centres s'ha d'afegir la etiqueta "source=Generalitat de Catalunya", suposo que no serà cap

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Ewen Hill
The feminine term is a pretty standard "Hen's shed" so perhaps name=Boyanup Hens Shed community_centre=community_shed gender=female Take shed more as a collective noun rather than a structure per se. Ewen On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 20:15, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:07 PM

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Warin
On 07/10/19 19:57, Andrew Harvey wrote: I added this to the ATG as amenity=community_centre + community_centre:for=man, 'man' may mean both men and women. On the other hand it maybe the original use was for males only. I think the value is not good. There are only 4 uses of the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Importer/exporter facilement filtres JOSM

2019-10-07 Per discussione PanierAvide
Effectivement les niveaux intermédiaires ne sont pas réellement gérés pour l'instant. Selon les besoins que tu as pour ce projet, on peut discuter des évolutions de l'outil à mettre en place. L'objectif est qu'il soit justement plus simple et intuitif que JOSM pour la partie carto intérieure.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Importer/exporter facilement filtres JOSM

2019-10-07 Per discussione Axel Listes
Bonjour, Le 07/10/2019 à 09:21, PanierAvide a écrit : > > Peut-être qu'une solution plus simple pour gérer l'ajout de données en > intérieur serait d'utiliser le nouvel éditeur dédié "OsmInEdit", qui > gère automatiquement la notion d'étages, permet l'import de plans en > fond pour aider à la

Re: [talk-au] Discussion J: regionalisation of editor presets

2019-10-07 Per discussione Andrew Harvey
There is another thread here about the ATG being recently changed and it being discussed to revert this back, so could you please post what tags and kinds of infrastructure you're talking about? On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 10:05, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: >

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Andrew Harvey
I added this to the ATG as amenity=community_centre + community_centre:for=man, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Australian_Tagging_Guidelines=revision=1856025=1855758. Not saying we need to follow, this if the discussion leads elsewhere it can be updated. To me it seems more like

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Sam Wilson
I think it'd take all three keys, if a item needs the further clarification of man/woman (although my local is pretty inclusive I think, so it's not absolute). Also, if anyone's in the mood for cataloguing men's sheds, there aren't many in Wikidata yet: https://w.wiki/9bA :-) On 7/10/19

Re: [talk-au] Consistent tagging of botanic gardens around Australia - leisure=park vs leisure=garden

2019-10-07 Per discussione Andrew Davidson
On 7/10/19 3:55 pm, Warin wrote: The landuse=forest one is probably an arboretum. It's a botanical garden laid out in an area of bushland: https://www.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/things-to-do/recreation-area/stony-range-regional-botanic-garden I separated out the arboreta from the list.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Importer/exporter facilement filtres JOSM

2019-10-07 Per discussione PanierAvide
Bonjour, Peut-être qu'une solution plus simple pour gérer l'ajout de données en intérieur serait d'utiliser le nouvel éditeur dédié "OsmInEdit", qui gère automatiquement la notion d'étages, permet l'import de plans en fond pour aider à la saisie, et ne nécessite pas d'installation car

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Graeme Fitzpatrick
> 7 Oct 2019, 08:39 by matkoni...@tutanota.com: > > Based on images it sounds close to hackerspace/makerspace, but with no (or > lower) focus > on software part and greater on direct working with wood and similar > materials. > > See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dhackerspace >

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 16:25, Ewen Hill wrote: > Exceddingly happy with community.shed as proposed > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, 5:15 PM Sam Wilson wrote: > >> I think amenity=community_centre makes sense, and I think there’s enough >> in Australia to warrant a specific community_centre=mens_shed (or

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Warin
On 07/10/19 17:43, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 7 Oct 2019, 08:39 by matkoni...@tutanota.com: Based on images it sounds close to hackerspace/makerspace, but with no (or lower) focus on software part and greater on direct working with wood and similar materials. See

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Mateusz Konieczny
7 Oct 2019, 08:39 by matkoni...@tutanota.com: > Based on images it sounds close to hackerspace/makerspace, but with no (or > lower) focus > on software part and greater on direct working with wood and similar > materials. > > See >

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Jonathon Rossi
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 4:14 PM Sam Wilson wrote: > I think amenity=community_centre makes sense, and I think there’s enough > in Australia to warrant a specific community_centre=mens_shed (or maybe > community_shed, which Wikipedia suggests as the generic term). > I think shed (sometimes)

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Ewen Hill
Please don't forget the Hen's shed or Hen House (Boyanup wa from memory). They do all differ with some having lots of mechanical stuff (Forrest Wa) to others which are more craft and sudoko in a house or annex or former shire office. Exceddingly happy with community.shed as proposed On Mon, 7 Oct

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Jonathon Rossi
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:53 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 14:23, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Existing; >> >> amenity=community_centre >> community_centre:for=men >> name=North Sydney Men's Shed >> >> > >> name=Parramatta District Men's Shed >> office=charity

Re: [talk-au] Men's Shed?

2019-10-07 Per discussione Sam Wilson
I think |amenity=community_centre| makes sense, and I think there’s enough in Australia to warrant a specific |community_centre=mens_shed| (or maybe |community_shed|, which Wikipedia suggests as the generic term). On 7/10/19 1:57 pm, Warin wrote: On 07/10/19 16:52, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: