Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Warin]

On 26-Jan-17 10:25 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool?

Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake?


No Limits?

You could mark a swimming pool anywhere ... and provided it is a 
'swimming pool' then it would be correct to mark is as such.






On 25 January 2017 at 21:05, Andrew Harvey > wrote:


I would tag the ladder as a node per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder
.

As for the pontoon, per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier
 "The
man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
plus floating=yes

On 25 January 2017 at 18:24, Max Bainrot > wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Quick question
>
> How does one map a swimming pontoon? Our local lake has two
beaches that has
> them.
>
> They consist of a floating platform with a ladder to one side
and are
> anchored to the bottom of the lake and are mostly static
although they do
> move and rotate a little.
>
> Cheers
> Max
>
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Re: [Talk-it-trentino] incontro a Verona "LA CONOSCENZA NELL'ERA DIGITALE"

[Marco Ciampa]

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:28:53AM +0100, Luca Delucchi wrote:
> On 24 January 2017 at 15:48, Marco Ciampa  wrote:
> > Sarebbe bello se venisse qualcuno di Openstreetmap...
> >
> > http://monasterodelbenecomune.blogspot.it/2017/01/sabato-28-gennaio-2017-la-conoscenza.html
> > https://www.facebook.com/monasterodelbenecomune/?ref=bookmarks
> >
> 
> Io non riesco, però potresti estendere l'invito anche alla comunità veneta.
> http://liste.remixtj.net/listinfo/osmveneto
> 
> > bye
> >
> 

Farò, grazie!

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[Talk-tr] Fw: [Bilgi] Linux Kullanıcıları Derneği Contact: openstreetmap.org.tr

[Doruk Fisek]

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:51:42 +0200
From: Mert Kalender 
To: bi...@liste.linux.org.tr
Subject: [Bilgi] Linux Kullanıcıları Derneği Contact:
openstreetmap.org.tr

Merhaba,

Ben Mert. ABD'de yaşayan bir yazılımcıyım. Harita alanında
işler üzerine çalışıyorum, özellikle de açık kaynaklı harita
OpenStreetMap. OpenStreetMap'in Türkiye'de yaygınlaşmasını
artırmak isteyen bir gruba öncülük ediyorum. OpenStreetMap
üzerine bir dernek kurmayı planlıyoruz. Kurulum aşamasında son
adıma geldik.

Amacımız videolar, eğitimler hazırlayarak toplumda açık
kaynaklı harita konusunda bir farkındalık oluşturmak. En önemlisi
de açık kaynaklı haritaya katkıyı artırmak istiyoruz.

www.openstreetmap.org.tr adresinin derneğinize kayıtlı olduğunu
gördüm. İsim hakkını OpenStreetMap alanındaki çalışmalarda
kullanmak istiyoruz. Bu konuda ortak bir çalışma yürütebilir
miyiz diye merak ediyorum.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Itinéraires et balisages FFRP et Club Vosgien

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

Bonjour,

Le 23/01/2017 à 21:08, Antoine Riche a écrit :

Pour info, j'ai récemment (décembre 2016) échangé avec le référent FFRP
du département de Loire-Atlantique, qui avait constaté que plusieurs GR
et GRP avaient été cartographiés sur OSM sans référence à la FFRP. Il a
accepté ma proposition d'ajouter la référence à la FFRP sous la forme
operator=FFRandonnée, ce que je me suis empressé de faire :
https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=10!47.3016!-1.6534

J'ai également ajouté pour les GRP source=, voir par exemple
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4592067. Je vous laisse apprécier
l'incohérence entre la Licence Ouverte utilisée et la mention à l'INPI
pour les créations de la FFRandonnée...

Il ne s'agit certes pas d'un accord formel mais j'ai conservé son accord
par mail. Je me suis bien gardé de lui demander s'il avait l'accord de
la fédération, mais il s'agit peut-être d'un premier pas vers une
collaboration intense avec la FFRP ;-)

Le 21/01/2017 à 22:47, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :



Je serai avec Christian mercredi matin pour cette réunion, d'où mon
absence à Decryptageo, cf. un fil récent.


TL;DR : pas de scoop

On a donc avec Christian passé hier matin 3h (pour 2h prévues) au siège 
de la FFRP, en compagnie d'un des vice-présidents de la Fédration et 
d'un juriste maison.
Les derniers contacts IRL remontaient à 2014, avec d'autres 
interlocuteurs. Le propos d'hier était donc de reprendre contact, et 
(re)présenter les démarches de part et d'autre. Ambiance détendue et 
bonne écoute, il ne s'agissait pas de "renverser la table".
La première heure a quasi uniquement servi à dérouler l'histoire, les 
concepts et principes de fonctionnement d'OSM. Le discours est bien reçu 
dès qu'on parle de contribution volontaire et bénévole dans la mesure où 
les baliseurs des comités locaux de la FFRP sont dans la même approche. 
Il y a en revanche, ça n'est pas un scoop, des contraintes côté FFRP 
d'ordre économique qu'on n'a pas par chez nous, avec des frais de 
fonctionnement, un métier d'éditeur qu s'ajoute à l'activité strictement 
fédérale, et.et une marque déposée. Sur ce point, la FFRP est 
bien consciente que le paysage change avec la prédominance des services 
numériques, et que la démarche de protection stricte de la marque n'est 
pas/plus la seule stratégie possible. C'est l'objet de leur réflexion 
sur cette année, et consulter OSM fait partie de la démarche.
Il est impossible à ce stade de savoir quelle issue prendront nos 
discussions (j'entends Sly qui ricanne au fond, là ;) ), la seule 
décision prise hier a été de se revoir au printemps. Printemps 2017 
j'entends.


Voilà, je me doute que certains restent sur leur faim. De mon côté 
c'était le 1er contact avec eux hier, et je suis clairement en mode 
"verre à 1/2 plein". Rdv en avril pour la suite si tout va bien.


(Merci à Christian pour ses compléménts)

vincent

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Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

[Stewart C. Russell]

Hi Bjenk,

> Most participants here agree that open data initiatives exist so that
> we, the public, organizations including OSM, everyone can use the
> data.

The OSM project can't accept data that might have hidden licensing
issues that might jeopardize OSM's existence. All new licenses are
treated with extreme caution. From the Legal FAQ:

“XYZ Organisation has data for free download under licence N. Can I use
it in OSM?

Approach the data owners, explain OSM, and seek written permission to
licence their data under our licence and contributor terms.

Unless the data is genuinely offered without any restrictions on use at
all (i.e. public domain), please contact the Licensing Working Group for
advice. Do not rely on your own legal interpretation of the licence. OSM
is all about creating a freely and easily redistributable data set.
Anything which taints the dataset or exposes OSM to possible legal
action interferes with that objective.

Even if you only want to use a minor part, or compare the sources, you
should still seek approval in writing. The legal principles involved are
not well developed, and the OSM community wants to develop a free and
untainted dataset and not test any of the legal issues involved here.

In short: be ultra-cautious”



> With that said, It has not yet been clearly explained what are the
> issues nor the sources raising concerns. Many have asked for
> clarifications and these have not been presented.

These responses take time. We're all volunteers who do this for fun.
I've (just) requested clarification from the OSMF License Working group.
I don't know if anyone had before. To OSM, the Ottawa licence is
different from the Federal OGL, so it needs looked at.

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[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada

[Bjenk Ellefsen]

Most participants here agree that open data initiatives exist so that we, the 
public, organizations including OSM, everyone can use the data.

With that said, It has not yet been clearly explained what are the issues nor 
the sources raising concerns. Many have asked for clarifications and these have 
not been presented.

Public servants at the City of Ottawa are supporting the project and OSM and so 
is StatCan, obviously.


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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Would you then mark the inside of the pontoon as a swimming pool?

Could you mark a swimming pool in the middle of a lake?



On 25 January 2017 at 21:05, Andrew Harvey  wrote:

> I would tag the ladder as a node per
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder.
>
> As for the pontoon, per
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier "The
> man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
> pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
> plus floating=yes
>
> On 25 January 2017 at 18:24, Max Bainrot  wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > Quick question
> >
> > How does one map a swimming pontoon? Our local lake has two beaches that
> has
> > them.
> >
> > They consist of a floating platform with a ladder to one side and are
> > anchored to the bottom of the lake and are mostly static although they do
> > move and rotate a little.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Max
> >
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Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

[Alan Richards]

Exactly. Local governments are using this license presumably because the
federal government has gone to the work of creating it. The intention of
all these bodies is to release the data for public use, the license is to
cover them from lawsuits.

In New West in fact, they are having an innovation week and hackathon in
February with the goal of hacking together interesting projects around the
Open Data the city releases. Sadly at the moment it seems I can't use this
data for OSM without getting explicit permission from the city.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:54 PM, James  wrote:

> The only differences I could see is with the province of quebec (OGL-QC),
> but they publish their data under CC-BY 4.0 so we just need to ask for
> their approval to mark refs on contributors page (indirect reference which
> CC-BY requires)
>
> I think it would be logical for other provinces(excluding Quebec, because
> they do their own thing) to follow what the federal goverment has put in
> place in terms of open data. Obviously they need to replace federal with
> municipal, but this shouldnt change the license in itself that allows us to
> copy, create, distribute and derive.
>
> If cities are putting their data on public portals it's obviously so the
> public will use it, instead of it sitting there doing nothing.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 2017 3:30 PM, "john whelan"  wrote:
>
>> I'm under the impression that we are talking about two things.
>>
>> The first is the Open Data licence which I think we are agreed is roughly
>> the same except that BC governments reference the BC privacy law, the
>> Ontario ones the Ontario privacy law and the Federal Government references
>> the Federal Government privacy law which is what you might expect.
>>
>> The differences to me are minor.
>>
>> The second is Paul's letter from a Federal Government civil servant that
>> I shall call a letter of interpretation, and it's this letter that makes
>> Paul very comfortable with the Federal Government Open Data.
>>
>> Unfortunately we have been talking licence so the assumption was made
>> that the BC government /Vancouver Open Data licence was also acceptable and
>> my understanding is some data has been imported and accepted.
>>
>> I do not believe the differences between the BC and Ontario privacy laws
>> are that great that one is acceptable and one is not.
>>
>> If all the Canadian Open Data licences are deemed to be unacceptable what
>> do we do about the data that has been imported?  This includes the CANVEC
>> data.
>>
>> My interest is in the Ottawa Bus stops and I have been working with the
>> City of Ottawa for some years to make them available off line on a tablet /
>> phone.  Somewhere in the City of Ottawa's official web site is a link to
>> this work.  My concern is what will tomorrow bring.  Based on the
>> discussions in talk-ca and on the work done analyzing the Federal
>> Government's Open Data licence before the Metro link address import my
>> impression was we had accepted the Canadian version of the Open Data
>> licence.  These Ottawa Bus stops are now based on OSM data and have been
>> since the discussion on talk-ca last year.
>>
>> Are we seriously saying the data that Metrolink imported should now be
>> removed?
>>
>> The uncertainty, the on / off on acceptence of the Open Data side of
>> things does make life difficult.  Should we be using a different platform
>> for Open Data?
>>
>> If I sidetrack to the Ottawa import process essentially the building
>> outlines are brought into a JOSM layer then using the Bing image layer to
>> confirm they are brought into OSM manually.  My understanding is any
>> building outlines that clash with an existing building in OSM daily dump
>> have been removed from the import file.  Any added in the previous 24 hours
>> can be handled by the manual process.  This is quite different to an
>> earlier import.
>>
>> Thoughts and clarification please.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 25 Jan 2017 2:43 pm, "Alan Richards"  wrote:
>>
>>> Most BC cities seem to be using a version of the OGL-BC now as well.
>>> This is similar to the OGL-CA with references to BC privacy and FOI laws,
>>> similar to the Ontario changes mentioned earlier.
>>>
>>> This business of having to get explicit permission for each dataset from
>>> each government entity is a bit ridiculous when the intent of this license
>>> in the first place was to avoid this.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Blake Girardot 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Paul Norman  wrote:

 > The initial answer was that the license would impose obligations on
 top of
 > the ODbL, our distribution license. This would make the data
 incompatible.

 Hi Paul,

 The above sounds like an interpretation of the answer, not the actual
 answer itself.

 Could you share the 

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

[James]

The only differences I could see is with the province of quebec (OGL-QC),
but they publish their data under CC-BY 4.0 so we just need to ask for
their approval to mark refs on contributors page (indirect reference which
CC-BY requires)

I think it would be logical for other provinces(excluding Quebec, because
they do their own thing) to follow what the federal goverment has put in
place in terms of open data. Obviously they need to replace federal with
municipal, but this shouldnt change the license in itself that allows us to
copy, create, distribute and derive.

If cities are putting their data on public portals it's obviously so the
public will use it, instead of it sitting there doing nothing.


On Jan 25, 2017 3:30 PM, "john whelan"  wrote:

> I'm under the impression that we are talking about two things.
>
> The first is the Open Data licence which I think we are agreed is roughly
> the same except that BC governments reference the BC privacy law, the
> Ontario ones the Ontario privacy law and the Federal Government references
> the Federal Government privacy law which is what you might expect.
>
> The differences to me are minor.
>
> The second is Paul's letter from a Federal Government civil servant that I
> shall call a letter of interpretation, and it's this letter that makes Paul
> very comfortable with the Federal Government Open Data.
>
> Unfortunately we have been talking licence so the assumption was made that
> the BC government /Vancouver Open Data licence was also acceptable and my
> understanding is some data has been imported and accepted.
>
> I do not believe the differences between the BC and Ontario privacy laws
> are that great that one is acceptable and one is not.
>
> If all the Canadian Open Data licences are deemed to be unacceptable what
> do we do about the data that has been imported?  This includes the CANVEC
> data.
>
> My interest is in the Ottawa Bus stops and I have been working with the
> City of Ottawa for some years to make them available off line on a tablet /
> phone.  Somewhere in the City of Ottawa's official web site is a link to
> this work.  My concern is what will tomorrow bring.  Based on the
> discussions in talk-ca and on the work done analyzing the Federal
> Government's Open Data licence before the Metro link address import my
> impression was we had accepted the Canadian version of the Open Data
> licence.  These Ottawa Bus stops are now based on OSM data and have been
> since the discussion on talk-ca last year.
>
> Are we seriously saying the data that Metrolink imported should now be
> removed?
>
> The uncertainty, the on / off on acceptence of the Open Data side of
> things does make life difficult.  Should we be using a different platform
> for Open Data?
>
> If I sidetrack to the Ottawa import process essentially the building
> outlines are brought into a JOSM layer then using the Bing image layer to
> confirm they are brought into OSM manually.  My understanding is any
> building outlines that clash with an existing building in OSM daily dump
> have been removed from the import file.  Any added in the previous 24 hours
> can be handled by the manual process.  This is quite different to an
> earlier import.
>
> Thoughts and clarification please.
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 25 Jan 2017 2:43 pm, "Alan Richards"  wrote:
>
>> Most BC cities seem to be using a version of the OGL-BC now as well. This
>> is similar to the OGL-CA with references to BC privacy and FOI laws,
>> similar to the Ontario changes mentioned earlier.
>>
>> This business of having to get explicit permission for each dataset from
>> each government entity is a bit ridiculous when the intent of this license
>> in the first place was to avoid this.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Blake Girardot 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Paul Norman  wrote:
>>>
>>> > The initial answer was that the license would impose obligations on
>>> top of
>>> > the ODbL, our distribution license. This would make the data
>>> incompatible.
>>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> The above sounds like an interpretation of the answer, not the actual
>>> answer itself.
>>>
>>> Could you share the actual inquiry and response so we can all learn
>>> from it and understand how it requires additional obligations?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> blake
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [Talk-cz] Stav openstreetmap.cz v prohlížečích

[Petr Vozdecký]

Takze vsem diky za aktivitu, uz je to opet skoro v poradku, pretrvava jeden 
neduh:
Firefox pro Android, ver 50.1.0 for Android: nepřepíná vrstvy

vop

-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Tom Ka 
Datum: 24. 1. 2017 v 19:37:16
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Stav openstreetmap.cz v prohlížečích

Uz jsem mel cas to docist cele, jo bude to neco v mezilehlem certifikatu, je
tam ale zrejme se neco rozbilo. Zkouknu to. Dne 24. ledna 2017 18:59 Tom Ka 
napsal(a): > A nejde aspon rozkliknout co je to za certifikat co mu vadi? 
osmap.cz > je na let's encrypt a mel by v rozumne modernich prohlizecich jet
v > pohode. > > Diky > > Dne 24. ledna 2017 10:52 Karel Volný napsal(a): >> 
zdar, >> >> ohledně zobrazení viz druhý (předchozí) mail, ohledně 
certifikátu standardní >> hláška, bez možnosti rozkliknout podrobnosti: >> >
> Chyba certifikátu SSL. >> >> Chyba zabezpečení. >> Stránka kterou se 
snažíte navštívit zaslala SSL Certifikát s temito chybami: >> * Certifikát 
serveru není důvěryhodný. >> Chcete udělit výjimku tomuto certifikátu? >> 
[Yes] [No] >> >> On Monday 23 January 2017 17:33:04 Marián Kyral wrote: >>> 
Nebyl by screenshot nebo textová chyba? Případně další informace ze >>> 
kterých by se dalo něco zjistit? >>> >>> Díky, >>> Marián >>> >>> Dne 23.1.
2017 v 13:22 Karel Volný napsal(a): >>> > QupZilla 2.0.2/QtWebEngine 5.7.0 
(Fedora 25) >>> > musím odkliknout hlášku o nedůvěryhodném certifikátu >>> >
mapa se nezobrazí vůbec >>> > >>> > K. >>> > >>> > On Monday 23 January 2017
12:33:45 Petr Vozdecký wrote: >>> >> Ahoj všem, >>> >> >>> >> současný 
nešťastný stav velmi letmo (kdo je schopen té věci pomoci?): >>> >> >>> >> -
Firefox pro desktop, ver 50.1.0 na Win10: >>> >> nezobrazují se pop-upy v 
aktivní vrstvě (vlevo nahoře je vidět snaha ale >>> >> obsah=0) >>> >> >>> >
> - Chrome pro desktop, verze 55.0.2883.87 m na Win10: >>> >> OK >>> >> >>> 
>> - Firefox pro Android, ver 50.1.0 for Android: >>> >> nepřepíná vrstvy, 
nezobrazuje pop-upy pro aktivní vrstvu >>> >> >>> >> - Chrome pro Android, 
verze 55.0.2883.91 for Android: >>> >> nenačte a nezobrazí vůbec - důvodem 
je kolize zabezpečení https: "Vaše >>> >> připojení není soukromé" >>> >> >>
> >> vop >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> __
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] FANTOIR et métro parisien ?

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

Bonsoir,

Le 25/01/2017 à 12:46, Donat ROBAUX a écrit :


Y a moyen de rajouter le FANTOIR également sur les *building et
*landuse? Je ne sais pas si c'est déjà le cas.


Tout objet de type polygone combinant les tags name=* et 
ref:FR:FANTOIR=* est déjà candidat aux rapprochements BANO. On tolère 
l'absence de ref:FR:FANTOIR pour les landuse=residential (cas des 
résidences et lotissements parfois) et les amenity=parking (cas des 
parking portant le nom de la place qu'ils occupent).

Le code correspondant est là :
https://github.com/osm-fr/bano/blob/master/sql/highway_insee.sql#L47-L50
Donc en l'état, ajouter un ref:FR:FANTOIR sur un building=* ou un 
landuse=* fait de ces objets des candidats au rapprochement BANO.


À toi de jouer Donat ;)

vincent

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[Talk-es] Etiquetando fuentes

[Ibai Gurrutxaga]

Hola.

Leyendo la wiki sobre como etiquetar fuentes de agua me surgen un par de 
dudas. Las fuentes que encontramos en el monte suelen ir asociados a 
manantiales por lo que entiendo que deben ir etiquetados como 
"natural=spring", añadiendo "drinking_water=yes" si el agua es potable [1].


En cambio, para fuentes canalizadas, típicamente urbanas, está 
"amenity=drinking_water", que lleva la potabilidad implicita [2].


La primera duda es, ¿es correcto etiquetar una fuente de montaña (de 
manantial) como "natural=spring"+"amenity=drinking_water"? Yo entiendo 
que no, pero veo que hay más de 200 nodos así en España (es mi primera 
experiencia con overpass así que puedo equivocarme, pero creo que no).


La segunda pregunta es, ¿existe alguna etiqueta para describir mejor un 
manantial? Me refiero a poder diferenciar entre un manantial de agua 
potable sin ningún tipo de fuente artificial, un manantial con fuente, 
con fuente y abrevadero, un gran manantial que da origen a un río... La 
propia wiki muestra fotos de lo que digo [1], pero no veo modo de 
etiquetarlos, más allá de "drinking_water=yes". ¿No  os parece que sería 
útil poder indicar qué tipo de manantial es?


Un saludo,
Ibai Gurrutxaga.

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Tag:natural%3Dspring
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Tag:amenity%3Ddrinking_water


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Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

[john whelan]

I'm under the impression that we are talking about two things.

The first is the Open Data licence which I think we are agreed is roughly
the same except that BC governments reference the BC privacy law, the
Ontario ones the Ontario privacy law and the Federal Government references
the Federal Government privacy law which is what you might expect.

The differences to me are minor.

The second is Paul's letter from a Federal Government civil servant that I
shall call a letter of interpretation, and it's this letter that makes Paul
very comfortable with the Federal Government Open Data.

Unfortunately we have been talking licence so the assumption was made that
the BC government /Vancouver Open Data licence was also acceptable and my
understanding is some data has been imported and accepted.

I do not believe the differences between the BC and Ontario privacy laws
are that great that one is acceptable and one is not.

If all the Canadian Open Data licences are deemed to be unacceptable what
do we do about the data that has been imported?  This includes the CANVEC
data.

My interest is in the Ottawa Bus stops and I have been working with the
City of Ottawa for some years to make them available off line on a tablet /
phone.  Somewhere in the City of Ottawa's official web site is a link to
this work.  My concern is what will tomorrow bring.  Based on the
discussions in talk-ca and on the work done analyzing the Federal
Government's Open Data licence before the Metro link address import my
impression was we had accepted the Canadian version of the Open Data
licence.  These Ottawa Bus stops are now based on OSM data and have been
since the discussion on talk-ca last year.

Are we seriously saying the data that Metrolink imported should now be
removed?

The uncertainty, the on / off on acceptence of the Open Data side of things
does make life difficult.  Should we be using a different platform for Open
Data?

If I sidetrack to the Ottawa import process essentially the building
outlines are brought into a JOSM layer then using the Bing image layer to
confirm they are brought into OSM manually.  My understanding is any
building outlines that clash with an existing building in OSM daily dump
have been removed from the import file.  Any added in the previous 24 hours
can be handled by the manual process.  This is quite different to an
earlier import.

Thoughts and clarification please.

Thanks

Cheerio John

On 25 Jan 2017 2:43 pm, "Alan Richards"  wrote:

> Most BC cities seem to be using a version of the OGL-BC now as well. This
> is similar to the OGL-CA with references to BC privacy and FOI laws,
> similar to the Ontario changes mentioned earlier.
>
> This business of having to get explicit permission for each dataset from
> each government entity is a bit ridiculous when the intent of this license
> in the first place was to avoid this.
>
> Alan
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Blake Girardot 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Paul Norman  wrote:
>>
>> > The initial answer was that the license would impose obligations on top
>> of
>> > the ODbL, our distribution license. This would make the data
>> incompatible.
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> The above sounds like an interpretation of the answer, not the actual
>> answer itself.
>>
>> Could you share the actual inquiry and response so we can all learn
>> from it and understand how it requires additional obligations?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> blake
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

[Alan Richards]

Most BC cities seem to be using a version of the OGL-BC now as well. This
is similar to the OGL-CA with references to BC privacy and FOI laws,
similar to the Ontario changes mentioned earlier.

This business of having to get explicit permission for each dataset from
each government entity is a bit ridiculous when the intent of this license
in the first place was to avoid this.

Alan

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Blake Girardot  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Paul Norman  wrote:
>
> > The initial answer was that the license would impose obligations on top
> of
> > the ODbL, our distribution license. This would make the data
> incompatible.
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> The above sounds like an interpretation of the answer, not the actual
> answer itself.
>
> Could you share the actual inquiry and response so we can all learn
> from it and understand how it requires additional obligations?
>
> Cheers,
> blake
>
>
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] TfWM Swift Collector Import

[Brian Prangle]

 Hi everyone

Following on from my previous post proposing an import, to which no-one
objected here's more detail:

Last total from the data provided by TfWM I have is 111 Swift Collectors,
so not a huge import. If anyone wants to inspect the data I can send them
the csv file.

More will  be rolled out in future so we will need to agree a process with
TfWM for regular updates after the initial import

The current fields are (** indicates the fields proposed to import)

naptan  ** UID
x
y
lat **
lon **
shelter ** asset no of shelter
osgrid
postal
name **
address
address2
city
category  **  stop;interchange;station
status **
location
BSName
BSAddress
Mode ** bus, metro, rail

There has been no response either from talkgb or talktansit on my
suggestion of how to tag these so I propose:

amenity=vending
vending=public_transport_ticket
public_transport_ticket= Swift Collector Card
payment=no
top-up=yes
source=TfWM

Currently  I think this tag is not rendered.

I also propose that these are added as separate nodes rather than added to
the  naptan bus stop node, because they can be attached either to the pole
or the shelter or can be situated in a bus station or on a metro platform.

Comments welcome

Regards

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Re: [Talk-it] nome posto di polizia

[Alecs]

Sarei per la soluzione più semplice, del tipo
name= Posto di polizia ferroviaria agente scelto Salvatore Farinaro
operator=Polizia Ferroviaria

Ciao,
Alessandro


Marco wrote
> Mappando una stazione di polizia ferroviaria mi è sorto un dubbio; sul 
> muro esterno della stessa c'è una lapide/targa con scritto "Posto di 
> polizia ferroviaria Rho, agente scelto Salvatore Farinaro". Cosa uso 
> come valore del tag name? inserisco tutto ciò che c'è scritto sulla 
> targa oppure uso solo "Polizia Ferroviaria" ed inserisco il resto in un 
> tag apposito? (quale?)
> 
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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Tom Ka]

On Jan 25, 2017 16:13, "Milan Cerny"  wrote:

Za mě opraveno, zas taková hrůza to nebyla. Je tam hodně odstraněných
rozcestníků, v db přidány tagy "odstraněn" a " smazat"
Ještě mě napadá, jde nějak zjistit počet nahraných fotek podle uživatelů?
Zajímalo by mě,


Ahoj,

pro jiz neaktualni fotky prosim pouzivejte tag 'zruseno' - to je ta
obrovska nevyhoda reseni s tagy , kazdej si tam prida co ho napadne a
pouzit to pak temer nejde :-(

pocet fotek uzivatele snad umi vratit wallybo api, ale ted z telefonu to
asi nenajdu, kdyztak zitra.

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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap as a data source for visually impaired people

[SK53]

and also the specific work of OSM contributors LuluAnn and bahnpirat:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HaptoRender#Reinhard-Niether-Krankenhaus_in_Wilhelmshaven.2C_Germany

On 25 January 2017 at 17:38, Christian Ledermann <
christian.lederm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.maproomblog.com/2016/02/3d-printed-maps-for-
> the-blind-and-visually-impaired/
> may be of help
>
> On 25 January 2017 at 16:31, SK53  wrote:
> > I'm not sure under-researched is the right term.
> >
> > A blind friend, now dead, was participating as a subject in a research
> > project on the geographical awareness of blind people back in the 1960s.
> > Using OSM for providing data and applications for the visually impaired
> has
> > been an active subject since at least 2008: see for example
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Visual_Impairment.
> >
> > I don't have off-hand a list of recent research in the area. I'm sure
> there
> > have been a number of undergraduate research projects using OSM data.
> >
> > However, the major issue generally is actually translating research into
> > something usable in a practical way by visually impaired people.
> >
> > The practical constraints I'm aware of:
> >
> > OSM rarely contains enough consistent detail of things like tactile
> paving,
> > existence of pavements, street furniture obstacles, boundary features of
> > pedestrian ways etc.
> > The difficulty of keeping the above information up-to-date.
> > OSM generally maps centre lines not the edges of features. Many blind
> people
> > make extensive usage of edges for navigation, but also to ensure their
> > safety.
> > The level of detail apparently needed is vast: well beyond what is
> feasible
> > for ordinary mappers to collect.
> > GPS accuracy whilst perfectly adequate for standard routing for
> pedestrians
> > using OSM, may not be accurate enough when the two pavements of a road
> have
> > very different characteristics.
> >
> > Additionally, as for wheelchair users, it may be that the specific
> > requirements of each visually impaired user are different.
> >
> > Probably the area which is most immediately useful is the ability to
> produce
> > tactile maps from OSM using 3-D printing. These can be used by people to
> > gain an awareness of unfamiliar areas. Once again most examples I'm
> aware of
> > one-off demonstrations by university researchers or hobbyists associated
> > with hackspaces.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 25 January 2017 at 15:35, Dave Dowding  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm studying Geographic Information Systems and am doing a dissertation
> on
> >> whether OSM data is a good data sources for visually impaired people.
> The
> >> evaluation of different geographic data sources for visually impaired
> people
> >> seems to be under researched, though very important for those who need
> the
> >> data.
> >> I hope to be able to be able to come up with some ways to improve the
> OSM
> >> data for visually impaired people and to create an map to show
> geographical
> >> areas where more data is needed.
> >> To help me with the project I would appreciate your help in filling in a
> >> survey at
> >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeVTB0m1CV6zJ_5ZG9dq0l-
> lAq7KkdsWrnlmdUPq6THoSR3Yw/viewform
> >> More information about the project can be found at
> >> http://dowd.in/diss.htm. Any advice or feedback appreciated.
> >>
> >> Many Thanks
> >>
> >> Dave
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>
> 1) Don’t drive species to extinction
>
> 2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
>
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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,
když klikneš na své jméno, tak se zobrazí jen tvé fotky. Stačí takto?

Marián

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Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref 
"Nebylo by možné do tabulky na http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img
doplnit možnost seřazení podle autorů

Pražák


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Datum: 25. 1. 2017 11:20:09
Předmět: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

"Ahoj,

konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).

http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img

Diky

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[Zdeněk Pražák]

Nebylo by možné do tabulky na http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img
doplnit možnost seřazení podle autorů

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"Ahoj,

konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).

http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img

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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap as a data source for visually impaired people

[Christian Ledermann]

http://www.maproomblog.com/2016/02/3d-printed-maps-for-the-blind-and-visually-impaired/
may be of help

On 25 January 2017 at 16:31, SK53  wrote:
> I'm not sure under-researched is the right term.
>
> A blind friend, now dead, was participating as a subject in a research
> project on the geographical awareness of blind people back in the 1960s.
> Using OSM for providing data and applications for the visually impaired has
> been an active subject since at least 2008: see for example
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Visual_Impairment.
>
> I don't have off-hand a list of recent research in the area. I'm sure there
> have been a number of undergraduate research projects using OSM data.
>
> However, the major issue generally is actually translating research into
> something usable in a practical way by visually impaired people.
>
> The practical constraints I'm aware of:
>
> OSM rarely contains enough consistent detail of things like tactile paving,
> existence of pavements, street furniture obstacles, boundary features of
> pedestrian ways etc.
> The difficulty of keeping the above information up-to-date.
> OSM generally maps centre lines not the edges of features. Many blind people
> make extensive usage of edges for navigation, but also to ensure their
> safety.
> The level of detail apparently needed is vast: well beyond what is feasible
> for ordinary mappers to collect.
> GPS accuracy whilst perfectly adequate for standard routing for pedestrians
> using OSM, may not be accurate enough when the two pavements of a road have
> very different characteristics.
>
> Additionally, as for wheelchair users, it may be that the specific
> requirements of each visually impaired user are different.
>
> Probably the area which is most immediately useful is the ability to produce
> tactile maps from OSM using 3-D printing. These can be used by people to
> gain an awareness of unfamiliar areas. Once again most examples I'm aware of
> one-off demonstrations by university researchers or hobbyists associated
> with hackspaces.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
> On 25 January 2017 at 15:35, Dave Dowding  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I'm studying Geographic Information Systems and am doing a dissertation on
>> whether OSM data is a good data sources for visually impaired people. The
>> evaluation of different geographic data sources for visually impaired people
>> seems to be under researched, though very important for those who need the
>> data.
>> I hope to be able to be able to come up with some ways to improve the OSM
>> data for visually impaired people and to create an map to show geographical
>> areas where more data is needed.
>> To help me with the project I would appreciate your help in filling in a
>> survey at
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeVTB0m1CV6zJ_5ZG9dq0l-lAq7KkdsWrnlmdUPq6THoSR3Yw/viewform
>> More information about the project can be found at
>> http://dowd.in/diss.htm. Any advice or feedback appreciated.
>>
>> Many Thanks
>>
>> Dave
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If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left,
you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If
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1) Don’t drive species to extinction

2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.

3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.

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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap as a data source for visually impaired people

[SK53]

I'm not sure under-researched is the right term.

A blind friend, now dead, was participating as a subject in a research
project on the geographical awareness of blind people back in the 1960s.
Using OSM for providing data and applications for the visually impaired has
been an active subject since at least 2008: see for example
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Visual_Impairment.

I don't have off-hand a list of recent research in the area. I'm sure there
have been a number of undergraduate research projects using OSM data.

However, the major issue generally is actually translating research into
something usable in a practical way by visually impaired people.

The practical constraints I'm aware of:

   - OSM rarely contains enough consistent detail of things like tactile
   paving, existence of pavements, street furniture obstacles, boundary
   features of pedestrian ways etc.
   - The difficulty of keeping the above information up-to-date.
   - OSM generally maps centre lines not the edges of features. Many blind
   people make extensive usage of edges for navigation, but also to ensure
   their safety.
   - The level of detail apparently needed is vast: well beyond what is
   feasible for ordinary mappers to collect.
   - GPS accuracy whilst perfectly adequate for standard routing for
   pedestrians using OSM, may not be accurate enough when the two pavements of
   a road have very different characteristics.

Additionally, as for wheelchair users, it may be that the specific
requirements of each visually impaired user are different.

Probably the area which is most immediately useful is the ability to
produce tactile maps from OSM using 3-D printing. These can be used by
people to gain an awareness of unfamiliar areas. Once again most examples
I'm aware of one-off demonstrations by university researchers or hobbyists
associated with hackspaces.

Jerry



On 25 January 2017 at 15:35, Dave Dowding  wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm studying Geographic Information Systems and am doing a dissertation on
> whether OSM data is a good data sources for visually impaired people. The
> evaluation of different geographic data sources for visually impaired
> people seems to be under researched, though very important for those who
> need the data.
> I hope to be able to be able to come up with some ways to improve the OSM
> data for visually impaired people and to create an map to show geographical
> areas where more data is needed.
> To help me with the project I would appreciate your help in filling in a
> survey at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeVTB0m1CV6zJ_5ZG9dq0l-
> lAq7KkdsWrnlmdUPq6THoSR3Yw/viewform
> More information about the project can be found at http://dowd.in/diss.htm.
> Any advice or feedback appreciated.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Dave
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Re: [Talk-it] Digest di Talk-it, Volume 122, Numero 61

[Carlo A. Nicolini]

Scusa la sbadataggine, ho guardato la cava a cui ti riferivi…. Ed ho travisato… 
io parlavo di questo

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/44.09833/10.14024

… comunque la sostanza non cambia…

Ciao ancora
C.
> Il giorno 25 gen 2017, alle ore 13:00, talk-it-requ...@openstreetmap.org ha 
> scritto:
> 
> Re: [Talk-it] Strade di servizio nelle cave

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Re: [Talk-it] Strade di servizio nelle cave

[Carlo A. Nicolini]

Concordo con te riguardo a “ service”

Noto anche che hai conoscenza diretta dello stato dell’arte…

Converrai pero’ che la cosa fondamentale e per niente semplice, sarebbe 
riuscire a distinguere il bacino dove viene estratto il blocco e relative aree 
di lavorazione e l’area dove viene asportato il materiale … di conseguenza i 
ravaneti (magari distinti tra quelli antichi, che avevano una pezzatura 
notevole, e quelli ‘moderni’ che tolta la ciccia restano meno della ghiaia….le 
vie di arroccamento, come giustamente dicevi.

Oltretutto questa è una mappatura in divenire… lo skyline, per dirla 
all’…..americana, si modificano da un’anno all’altro…
E forse ci potrebbe essere chi … me taccio!

Saluti
Carlo

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> scritto:
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> Re: [Talk-it] Strade di servizio nelle cave

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[Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap as a data source for visually impaired people

[Dave Dowding]

Hi,
I'm studying Geographic Information Systems and am doing a dissertation on
whether OSM data is a good data sources for visually impaired people. The
evaluation of different geographic data sources for visually impaired
people seems to be under researched, though very important for those who
need the data.
I hope to be able to be able to come up with some ways to improve the OSM
data for visually impaired people and to create an map to show geographical
areas where more data is needed.
To help me with the project I would appreciate your help in filling in a
survey at
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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Tomas Novotny]

Ahoj Tome,

zatim 2 drobnosti:
1) do mych starych prehledovych fotek rozcestniku jsem doplnil tag
"prehledova", tak tyto fotky muzes vynechat z kontroly. Jestli je na to lepsi
tag, dej prosim vedet
2) tento konkretni bezkarsky rozcestnik nema ref (mozna neni ani zmapovany).
Co s tim?
http://api.openstreetmap.cz/table/id/3454

Diky,

T.

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:18:43 +0100
Tom Ka  wrote:

> Ahoj,
> 
> konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
> parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
> uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
> popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
> to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).
> 
> http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img
> 
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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Milan Cerny]

Za mě opraveno, zas taková hrůza to nebyla. Je tam hodně odstraněných 
rozcestníků, v db přidány tagy "odstraněn" a " smazat"
Ještě mě napadá, jde nějak zjistit počet nahraných fotek podle uživatelů? 
Zajímalo by mě, jak moc jsem se snažil:-)

Milan 

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> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 25.01.2017 11:18
> Předmět: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>
>Ahoj,
>
>konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
>parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
>uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
>popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
>to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).
>
>http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

[Blake Girardot]

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Paul Norman  wrote:

> The initial answer was that the license would impose obligations on top of
> the ODbL, our distribution license. This would make the data incompatible.

Hi Paul,

The above sounds like an interpretation of the answer, not the actual
answer itself.

Could you share the actual inquiry and response so we can all learn
from it and understand how it requires additional obligations?

Cheers,
blake


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Re: [Talk-ko] Talk-ko Digest, Vol 47, Issue 4

[최규성]

To Whom It May Concern,

Though unintended, this will surely bring up the OpenStreetMap awareness to
the public. It's really encouraging! We need to leverage this opportunity
at our local activities in South Korea.

Any idea sharing is welcome.

(주)이지매핑 대표 최규성 드림  (M. 010-5414-4374)
Kyu-sung Choi, EZMapping (M. +82-10-5414-4374)

2017-01-25 21:00 GMT+09:00 :

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>1. OSM 신문 기사 (Changwoo Ryu)
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> -- 전달된 메시지 --
> From: Changwoo Ryu 
> To: OpenStreetMap 
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:22:32 +0900
> Subject: [Talk-ko] OSM 신문 기사
> 어제 한국에 오픈한 포켓몬 GO에 사용되서 관심을 끌게 된 것 같지만, 꽤 자세한 기사가 나왔네요.
>
> https://it.donga.com/25837/
>
>
> -- 전달된 메시지 --
> From: Max 
> To: OpenStreetMap Korea 
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 09:20:26 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ko] OSM 신문 기사
> Do I see this right: Pokemon Go might lead to a lot more OSM edits by
> newbies in Korea?
> While generally a good thing, this might lead to a lot of problematic
> edits that a very small group of active editors need to verify.
>
>
> On 2017년 01월 25일 02:22, Changwoo Ryu wrote:
>
>> 어제 한국에 오픈한 포켓몬 GO에 사용되서 관심을 끌게 된 것 같지만, 꽤 자세한 기사가 나왔네요.
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Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

[John Marshall]

Paul,

The City add the the building footprints to their open data portal in order
to have it add to OSM.

Also the City of Ottawa uses OSM: http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset
/sledding-hills

Ottawa Hydro which is owned by the City uses OSM. https://hydroottawa
.com/outages/info/outage-centre


Let's move on.


John

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:12 PM, James  wrote:

> The city of Ottawa has the same license as the city of Vancouver:
> http://vancouver.ca/your-government/open-data-catalogue.aspx#tab19099
>
> Which seemed to have been deemed compatible, must we revert all vancouver
> imports as well?
>
> You have even stated that OGL-CA is compatible with ODBL in this mail
> archive:
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2013-
> December/007685.html
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:58 PM, James  wrote:
>
>> Paul your answer is not clear. what is it that the license(ODL i'm
>> guessing?) would impose on top of ODBL?
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:52 PM, john whelan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So since it is the same license as the Feds which you have a letter of
>>> interpretation saying its fine with the exception of the Ontario Privacy
>>> laws does that mean the fed license is to be written off as well?
>>>
>>> Pity as I like my bus stops and CANVEC highways.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
>>>
>>> On 24 January 2017 at 20:38, Paul Norman  wrote:
>>>
 On 1/21/2017 3:11 PM, Paul Norman wrote:

 On 1/20/2017 5:33 PM, john whelan wrote:

 Did you include permission for the bus stops as well? They are from the
 same source and the same licence.  I think I might have included one pitch
 sport soccer.  The pitch was mapped but the sport soccer was I must confess
 taken from their open data source.


 I kept it generic, not specifying a particular dataset. That way we'll
 have a final answer one way or the other and won't have to go back to them
 all the time.


 The initial answer was that the license would impose obligations on top
 of the ODbL, our distribution license. This would make the data
 incompatible.

 I have gotten back to them with some additional questions which might
 offer a way forwards and clarify the problems. If I can't get anywhere
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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Tom Ka]

Doplneno, pripadne navrhy na upravy textu vitany ;-)

Bye

Dne 25. ledna 2017 13:01 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
> A ještě jedna drobnost mne napadla. Nad tu tabulku by to chtělo nějaký
> nadpis aby bylo hned jasné, co tam právě je. A kdyby byl pod tím nějaký
> krátký popis co s tím, tak by to bylo ještě lepší :-D
>
> Marián
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Marián Kyral 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 25. 1. 2017 12:38:59
>
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>
> Tak jedna věc je link na josm pro úpravu existujícího rozcestníku a druhá je
> link na osmap.cz pro posun fotky rozcestníku. Hodily by se oba linky.
>
> Marián
>
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Tom Ka 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 25. 1. 2017 12:00:31
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>
> Nejsou priraditelne k zadnemu rozcestniku, takze neco spatne je, bud
> poloha fotky nebo rozcestniku v OSM. Co to musi rozhodnout a spravit
> dany clovek. Jo, ted je tam link na editaci v JOSMu ale asi to jeste
> nejak upravim, spis do tabulky te dane fotky nebo tak neco, zamyslim
> ze.
>
> Bye
>
> Dne 25. ledna 2017 11:33 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
>> Ahoj,
>> to všechny fotky co jsou v tom seznamu jsou špatně?
>>
>> A když přesouvat, tak by bylo dobré doplnit k těm souřadnicím link na
>> osmap.cz
>>
>> Třeba:
>> https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=19/49.64133/18.55362=dKAGB
>>
>> Díky,
>> Marián
>>
>> -- Původní e-mail --
>> Od: Tom Ka 
>> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
>> Datum: 25. 1. 2017 11:20:09
>> Předmět: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>>
>> Ahoj,
>>
>> konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
>> parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
>> uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
>> popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
>> to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).
>>
>> http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img
>>
>> Diky
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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Marián Kyral]

No já to raději vidím přímo na mapě. Odtamtud se už v případě potřeby 
dostanu i na tu fotku.
No neva, forknul jsem si to repo, večer se na to mrknu a případně pošlu 
patch ;-)

Marián

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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 25. 1. 2017 13:50:32
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref 
"V prvnim sloupci je odkaz do databaze fotek odkud jsou pak dalsi
informace, vim neni to primo ale kdyz jsem s tim delal, tak tohle bylo
vetsinou to, co jsem potreboval nejvic.

Dne 25. ledna 2017 12:37 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
> Tak jedna věc je link na josm pro úpravu existujícího rozcestníku a druhá 
je
> link na osmap.cz pro posun fotky rozcestníku. Hodily by se oba linky.
>
> Marián
>
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Tom Ka 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 25. 1. 2017 12:00:31
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>
> Nejsou priraditelne k zadnemu rozcestniku, takze neco spatne je, bud
> poloha fotky nebo rozcestniku v OSM. Co to musi rozhodnout a spravit
> dany clovek. Jo, ted je tam link na editaci v JOSMu ale asi to jeste
> nejak upravim, spis do tabulky te dane fotky nebo tak neco, zamyslim
> ze.
>
> Bye
>
> Dne 25. ledna 2017 11:33 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
>> Ahoj,
>> to všechny fotky co jsou v tom seznamu jsou špatně?
>>
>> A když přesouvat, tak by bylo dobré doplnit k těm souřadnicím link na
>> osmap.cz
>>
>> Třeba:
>> https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=19/49.64133/18.55362=dKAGB
>>
>> Díky,
>> Marián
>>
>> -- Původní e-mail --
>> Od: Tom Ka 
>> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
>> Datum: 25. 1. 2017 11:20:09
>> Předmět: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>>
>> Ahoj,
>>
>> konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
>> parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
>> uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
>> popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
>> to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).
>>
>> http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img
>>
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[Tom Ka]

V prvnim sloupci je odkaz do databaze fotek odkud jsou pak dalsi
informace, vim neni to primo ale kdyz jsem s tim delal, tak tohle bylo
vetsinou to, co jsem potreboval nejvic.

Dne 25. ledna 2017 12:37 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
> Tak jedna věc je link na josm pro úpravu existujícího rozcestníku a druhá je
> link na osmap.cz pro posun fotky rozcestníku. Hodily by se oba linky.
>
> Marián
>
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Tom Ka 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 25. 1. 2017 12:00:31
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>
> Nejsou priraditelne k zadnemu rozcestniku, takze neco spatne je, bud
> poloha fotky nebo rozcestniku v OSM. Co to musi rozhodnout a spravit
> dany clovek. Jo, ted je tam link na editaci v JOSMu ale asi to jeste
> nejak upravim, spis do tabulky te dane fotky nebo tak neco, zamyslim
> ze.
>
> Bye
>
> Dne 25. ledna 2017 11:33 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
>> Ahoj,
>> to všechny fotky co jsou v tom seznamu jsou špatně?
>>
>> A když přesouvat, tak by bylo dobré doplnit k těm souřadnicím link na
>> osmap.cz
>>
>> Třeba:
>> https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=19/49.64133/18.55362=dKAGB
>>
>> Díky,
>> Marián
>>
>> -- Původní e-mail --
>> Od: Tom Ka 
>> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
>> Datum: 25. 1. 2017 11:20:09
>> Předmět: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>>
>> Ahoj,
>>
>> konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
>> parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
>> uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
>> popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
>> to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).
>>
>> http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img
>>
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[Talk-br] Bing liberta mais de 8.5 milhões de quilómetros quadrados de imagem aérea do Brasil

[Marcos Oliveira]

http://blogs.bing.com/maps/January-2017/Over-8-5M-Square-
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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Marián Kyral]

A ještě jedna drobnost mne napadla. Nad tu tabulku by to chtělo nějaký 
nadpis aby bylo hned jasné, co tam právě je. A kdyby byl pod tím nějaký 
krátký popis co s tím, tak by to bylo ještě lepší :-D

Marián

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Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref 
"Tak jedna věc je link na josm pro úpravu existujícího rozcestníku a druhá 
je link na osmap.cz pro posun fotky rozcestníku. Hodily by se oba linky.

Marián


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Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref 
"Nejsou priraditelne k zadnemu rozcestniku, takze neco spatne je, bud
poloha fotky nebo rozcestniku v OSM. Co to musi rozhodnout a spravit
dany clovek. Jo, ted je tam link na editaci v JOSMu ale asi to jeste
nejak upravim, spis do tabulky te dane fotky nebo tak neco, zamyslim
ze.

Bye

Dne 25. ledna 2017 11:33 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
> Ahoj,
> to všechny fotky co jsou v tom seznamu jsou špatně?
>
> A když přesouvat, tak by bylo dobré doplnit k těm souřadnicím link na
> osmap.cz
>
> Třeba:
> https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=19/49.64133/18.55362=dKAGB
>
> Díky,
> Marián
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Tom Ka 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 25. 1. 2017 11:20:09
> Předmět: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>
> Ahoj,
>
> konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
> parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
> uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
> popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
> to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).
>
> http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] FANTOIR et métro parisien ?

[Donat ROBAUX]

Vincent,

Y a moyen de rajouter le FANTOIR également sur les *building et *landuse?
Je ne sais pas si c'est déjà le cas.

Donat


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> To: talk-fr@openstreetmap.org
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:40:47 +0100
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] FANTOIR et métro parisien ?
>
> Pour info : certaines stations ont deux codes FANTOIR, notamment celles à
> cheval sur deux arrondissements (ex : métro Vaneau à cheval entre 6e et 7e
> ) ou celles qui dans un même
> fichier apparaissent deux fois dans un même arrondissement sans raison
> connue (ex : métro St Jacques dans le 14e
> ). A l'exception des
> stations en deux parties (comme Montparnasse), j'ai mis les deux codes
> séparés par un point-virgule quand je sais qu'il y a clairement une seule
> et unique station. Dans le doute : je n'ai pas renseigné.
>
> J'ai également ajouté ce cas de figure dans le Wiki :
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:ref:FR:FANTOIR#Cas_particuliers
> (je sais que les valeurs multiples avec un ';' font débats... mais en
> attendant il faut bien un exemple !).
>
> Cordialement,
>
> LeTopographeFou
>
> Le 24/01/2017 à 21:33, LeTopographeFou a écrit :
>
> Bonjour, ok et merci ! Il n'y a plus qu'à...
>
> Cordialement,
>
> LeTopographeFou
>
> Le 23/01/2017 à 22:41, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :
>
> Bonsoir,
>
> Le 22/01/2017 à 22:55, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :
>
>
> Le 22/01/2017 à 22:37, LeTopographeFou a écrit :
>
>
> A mes heures perdus j'essaie de forcer le rapprochement des données
> cadastres avec OSM via Osmose ou le site cadastre.openstreetmap.fr
>  . Et
> il s'avère que certaines stations
> de métro parisiennes (pas tous ?) ont un numéro FANTOIR et apparaissent
> dans l'onglet des Lieux-dits. Ex :
> http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/#insee=75113=4
>
> La question à 5 sous : est-ce que rajouter à ces stations (ou à la
> "relation définissant la station" quand elle existe, qu'on l'aime ou
> pas) un attribut ref:FR:FANTOIR suffit ? Faudrait-il ajouter un place=*
> (si oui quelle valeur ?) pour en faire un "lieu-dit" ? Ou bien il faut
> mettre ces deux attributs sur un node à part car le lieu-dit existe et
> qu'il n'est pas nécessairement restreint à la station (ex : sa surface
> au sens du cadastre couvrant un quartier entier alors que la station est
> plus petite) ?
>
> Je penche pour un ref:FR:FANTOIR sur le node station (ou la relation...)
> et puis basta.
>
> A ce jour aucune station de métro ne semble avoir une réf FANTOIR dans
> OSM, d'où aussi ma question de savoir si c'est volontaire.
>
> La même question peut se poser sur un hôpital (ex : hôpital de la
> Salpêtrière), un cimetière (ex : cimetière du Montparnasse), une gare...
>
>
> Oui, rajouter le ref:FR:FANTOIR directement sur les objets (ici les
> stations, en node ou en relation), pourquoi pas. En l'état ça ne devrait
> pas suffire pour permettre le rapprochement, car côté lieux-dits on
> cherche explicitement un tag name ET un tag place. Mais l'idée, hormis
> pour le tag ref:FR:FANTOIR lui-même, a toujours été d'adapter BANO à OSM
> et pas l'inverse. Donc il faudra côté BANO élargir le critère de
> recherche des lieux-dits (au sens FANTOIR du terme) dans OSM pour
> provoquer des rapprochements. Un assouplissement pourrait être notamment
> de chercher un tag place OU un tag ref:FR:FANTOIR. Ça fonctionnerait
> pour un metro, mais aussi un hôpital ou un cimetière comme tu l'évoques.
>
> => https://github.com/osm-fr/bano/issues/131
>
>
> J'ai traité le cas, en élargissant aux objets dôtés conjointement des tags
> name=*, ref:FR:FANTOIR=* et d'au moins un tag parmi amenity=* et railway=*.
> Par un effet de bord, les metros du XIIIe et l'hôpital de la Pitié se
> retrouvent non plus dans les lieux-dits, mais dans les "voies sans adresse"
> :
> http://cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/#insee=75113=3
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Strade di servizio nelle cave

[Max1234Ita]

Visto che quelle strade servono agli addetti per raggiungere la zona in cui
si svolge il lavoro, e che di solito si tratta di vere e proprie strade
percorse anche da mezzi pesanti (camion e macchinari vari), secondo me
/service/ ci sta, eccome.

Poi, *di solito*, queste aree sono anche equiparate ai cantieri, con tanto
di cartelli che prescrivono le varie misure di precauzione (allontanarsi
dalle macchine, indossare elmetto e scarpe antinfortunio, ecc.), ci sta
anche /private/, a maggior ragione se sono anche presenti cancelli o sbarre
che limitano in qualche modo l'accesso all'area.

Quindi sono d'accordo, gli escursionisti che ci vanno la domenica lo fanno a
loro rischio & pericolo.

In ogni caso, se vuoi vedere un altro esempio di cava, io ho mappato questa: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/44.9721/9.1495
   (non estraggono
marmo ma altri materiali per l'edilizia, però il principio generale direi
che è il medesimo).


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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Marián Kyral]

Tak jedna věc je link na josm pro úpravu existujícího rozcestníku a druhá je
link na osmap.cz pro posun fotky rozcestníku. Hodily by se oba linky.

Marián


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"Nejsou priraditelne k zadnemu rozcestniku, takze neco spatne je, bud
poloha fotky nebo rozcestniku v OSM. Co to musi rozhodnout a spravit
dany clovek. Jo, ted je tam link na editaci v JOSMu ale asi to jeste
nejak upravim, spis do tabulky te dane fotky nebo tak neco, zamyslim
ze.

Bye

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> Ahoj,
> to všechny fotky co jsou v tom seznamu jsou špatně?
>
> A když přesouvat, tak by bylo dobré doplnit k těm souřadnicím link na
> osmap.cz
>
> Třeba:
> https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=19/49.64133/18.55362=dKAGB
>
> Díky,
> Marián
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>
> Ahoj,
>
> konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
> parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
> uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
> popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
> to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).
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Re: [talk-au] How to tag swimming pontoons

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I would tag the ladder as a node per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder.

As for the pontoon, per
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpier "The
man_made=pier tag is used for a raised walkway over water supported by
pillars made of metal/wood, or floating and secured using chains",
plus floating=yes

On 25 January 2017 at 18:24, Max Bainrot  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Quick question
>
> How does one map a swimming pontoon? Our local lake has two beaches that has
> them.
>
> They consist of a floating platform with a ladder to one side and are
> anchored to the bottom of the lake and are mostly static although they do
> move and rotate a little.
>
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Re: [Talk-it] collaborazioni tra comunità OSM locali ed enti pubblici

[Maurizio Napolitano]

> - CAI (anche se non è propriamente un PA e siamo solo all'inizio)

aggiungo allora l'esempio di ENEL
http://de.straba.us/2013/08/06/enel-incontra-openstreetmap/

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Re: [Talk-it] collaborazioni tra comunità OSM locali ed enti pubblici

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Al volo con qualche riferimento

Comune di Schio
nel 2009 il Comune ha aperto i dati ed ha fatto anche
attività di formazione
http://www.slideshare.net/piazzatech/schiosm

Comune di Storo
nel 2009 il comune di Storo ha fatto una delibera per aprire i dati
ed ha importato i civici su osm (e continua l'aggiornamento)
https://openstreetmap.it/2009/09/storo-libera-i-dati/
http://www.comune.storo.tn.it/delibere2009/g09_029.htm

Comune di Venezia
durante l' open data day del 2013
http://wiki.opendataday.org/Venezia2013#11:30_Import_Party
c'è stato un incontro con la comunità OSM e il Comune per importare i dati

Provincia Autonoma di Bolzano
ha instaurato un rapporto con la comunità openstreetmap dell'alto adige
ed ha importato numeri civici e strade assieme a loro
http://www.opengisdata.eu

Consiglio Regionale del Piemonte
con il Piemonte Visual Contest ha supportato e divulgato l'uso di OpenStreetMap

... molte altre

Personalmente starei a guadare a chi cerca un dialogo piuttosto a chi importa


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Re: [Talk-it] collaborazioni tra comunità OSM locali ed enti pubblici

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2017-01-25 11:57 GMT+01:00 Alessandro Palmas :
>
>
> Per quel che ricordo direi:
> - Milano, tramite AMAT, per rete di trasporti pubblici e grafo stradale
> - Bergamo per monitoraggio cicli di apertura e chiusura esercizi commerciali
> - Arenzano che ha caricato quasi tutto su OSM

- CAI (anche se non è propriamente un PA e siamo solo all'inizio)


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Re: [Talk-it] collaborazioni tra comunità OSM locali ed enti pubblici

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Regione Emilia Romagna ha caricato tutti i civici.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Emilia_Romagna_import_numeri_civici_2016

Il mer 25 gen 2017, 11:58 Alessandro Palmas 
ha scritto:

> Il 25/01/2017 11:27, Germano Massullo ha scritto:
>
> Salve, avrei bisogno di conoscere quali sono state le più proficue
> collaborazioni tra comunità OSM locali e comuni, sia in Italia che nel
> resto del mondo.
> Buona giornata
>
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>
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> - Bergamo per monitoraggio cicli di apertura e chiusura esercizi
> commerciali
> - Arenzano che ha caricato quasi tutto su OSM
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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

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Nejsou priraditelne k zadnemu rozcestniku, takze neco spatne je, bud
poloha fotky nebo rozcestniku v OSM. Co to musi rozhodnout a spravit
dany clovek. Jo, ted je tam link na editaci v JOSMu ale asi to jeste
nejak upravim, spis do tabulky te dane fotky nebo tak neco, zamyslim
ze.

Bye

Dne 25. ledna 2017 11:33 Marián Kyral  napsal(a):
> Ahoj,
> to všechny fotky co jsou v tom seznamu jsou špatně?
>
> A když přesouvat, tak by bylo dobré doplnit k těm souřadnicím link na
> osmap.cz
>
> Třeba:
> https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=19/49.64133/18.55362=dKAGB
>
> Díky,
> Marián
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Tom Ka 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 25. 1. 2017 11:20:09
> Předmět: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref
>
> Ahoj,
>
> konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
> parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
> uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
> popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
> to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).
>
> http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img
>
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Il 25/01/2017 11:27, Germano Massullo
  ha scritto:


  Salve, avrei bisogno di conoscere quali sono state le più proficue
collaborazioni tra comunità OSM locali e comuni, sia in Italia che nel
resto del mondo.
Buona giornata

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Re: [Talk-it] Strade di servizio nelle cave

[demon.box]

Gianluca Boero wrote
> in questa zona ci sono alcune cave di estrazione pietra. Non sono state 
> mappate da me...se vuoi prendile di esempio.

grazie, peccato che le strade ad uso dei mezzi al lavoro nella cava non sono
mappate eccetto poche highway=track che la attraversano



Federico Cortese wrote
> Invece che tag pensi di usare per highway?

beh fino ad ora ho mappato come track ma forse ci starebbe anche service...





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Re: [Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,
to všechny fotky co jsou v tom seznamu jsou špatně?

A když přesouvat, tak by bylo dobré doplnit k těm souřadnicím link na osmap.
cz

Třeba:
https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=19/49.64133/18.55362=dKAGB

Díky,
Marián

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"Ahoj,

konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).

http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img

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Re: [Talk-it] [dev-italia] Nuovo welcome tool

[Marco Minghini]

>
> Ho integrato la modifica di Lorenzo,
> adesso appare la località anche nella tabella.
>
> Grazie, siete super :)

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Salve, avrei bisogno di conoscere quali sono state le più proficue
collaborazioni tra comunità OSM locali e comuni, sia in Italia che nel
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[Talk-cz] OsmHiCheck - parovani rozcestniku dle ref

[Tom Ka]

Ahoj,

konecne jsem nasel trochu casu a doplnil do nevyuzitych obrazku
parovani dle REF pokud je vyplneno a je shodne s REF na existujicim
uzlu rozcestniku v OSM. Zkuste prosim projit svoje zaznamy a
popresouvat, pripadne jinak poopravovat bud fotku nebo uzel v OSM (na
to je vhodna znalost mista tj. od toho kdo to fotil je to idealni).

http://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/OsmHiCheck/gp/?img

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Re: [Talk-it] [dev-italia] Nuovo welcome tool

[Stefano]

Il giorno 25 gennaio 2017 10:20, Marco Minghini 
ha scritto:

> Complimenti e grazie per questo bellissimo strumento!
>
> Per essere ancora più utile sarebbe bello avere un'idea in che zona il
> nuovo utente è diventato attivo.
>
>> Sarebbe bello di poter fare lo in automatico.
>>
>> +1
>
>>
>> Puoi accedere alla pagina dell'utente. Sulla sinistra vedi il più vicino
>> luogo in cui l'utente ha fatto il primo edit. Dalla stessa pagina puoi
>> scrivere una nota.
>>
>> Vero, ma così se voglio trovare utenti attivi nella mia zona devo andare
> a vedermeli ad uno ad uno. L'informazione sulla "First edit location:" che
> compare nella pagina dell'utente la aggiungerei anche nella tabellona
> principale.
>

Ho integrato la modifica di Lorenzo,
adesso appare la località anche nella tabella.

>
> Ciao!
> Marco
>

Ciao,
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[Talk-at] Folie für den Open Data Day Austria 2017 Abschlussveranstaltung 3.3. Wien

[Johann Höchtl]

Hallo,

für den Open Data Day in Österreich ist jeder, der etwas mit offenen 
Daten gemacht hat, eingeladen eine Folie 
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1kynJXJbR-Psemj04X3gsifrWJ-533wWY4w498bNac5A/edit?usp=sharing 
zu gestalten. Wird bei der Abschlussveranstaltung als Loop laufen ...



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Re: [Talk-it] [Talk-it-trentino] incontro a Verona "LA CONOSCENZA NELL'ERA DIGITALE"

[Luca Delucchi]

On 24 January 2017 at 15:48, Marco Ciampa  wrote:
> Sarebbe bello se venisse qualcuno di Openstreetmap...
>
> http://monasterodelbenecomune.blogspot.it/2017/01/sabato-28-gennaio-2017-la-conoscenza.html
> https://www.facebook.com/monasterodelbenecomune/?ref=bookmarks
>

Io non riesco, però potresti estendere l'invito anche alla comunità veneta.
http://liste.remixtj.net/listinfo/osmveneto

> bye
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Re: [Talk-it] Strade di servizio nelle cave

[Federico Cortese]

2017-01-24 22:47 GMT+01:00 demon.box :
>
> sono strade non pavimentate che spesso all'inizio hanno delle sbarre o un
> cartello di divieto di accesso tranne che per gli addetti ai lavori.
> di fatto però quando non ci lavorano (cioè soltanto la domenica) a piedi, in
> mtb o anche in moto la gente ci passa dentro senza problemi.
>
> domanda forse banale come taggo l'accessibilità di queste strade?
>
> access=private ?
>

Visti i divieti io userei access=private, perchè se uno ci entra lo fa
a suo rischio e pericolo.

Invece che tag pensi di usare per highway?

Ciao
Federico

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Re: [Talk-GB] Announcing OSM UK at #geomob

[Brian Prangle]

Go for it Jez!  All I would add is that OSMUK discussions and voting take
place on Loomio rather than TalkGB

Regards

Brian

On 25 January 2017 at 08:45, Jez Nicholson  wrote:

> It is the #geomob meetup in London tonight. I suggested to Ed that he
> announce that OSM UK is now "open for business" and that people
> could/should signup as members.
>
> This has rapidly changed into *me* announcing it rather than Edwhich
> is probably better as it will focus attention. I'm not meaning to be
> presumptuous and put myself as OSM UK spokesperson, but it would be good to
> pass the message on and I am happy to do it. There is a good chance other
> OSM-UKers will be there (Jerry? Andy? Harry?).
>
> I am planning to say:
> * OSM UK branch has been formed
> * Talk-GB mailing list is getting busier
> * Quarterly projects
> * you could put yourself forward to be a Director if you hurry
> * everyone should sign up as a member now (whilst it is free!)
> * web site is osmuk.org
>
> Any other important points?
>
> If anyone feels they are a better candidate to announce...or were already
> doing it, then please just say.
>
> regards,
> Jez
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] oxfam wereldwinkels

[Julien Minet]

Hi Joost,

In Wallonia, there are named as "Oxfam - Magasins du monde". See this map:
http://www.oxfammagasinsdumonde.be/acheter-equitable/magasins-du-monde-oxfam/#.WIhsf2co-Cg

In Arlon (where I checked), there are two Oxfam shops, one focused on
selling food & craft and the second one focused on selling 2nd hand
clothes. The Oxfam shop that sells fair trade food and crafts is tagged as
a shop=convenience and the other one that sells second hand clothes is
tagged as shop=clothes & second_hand=only.

I'm OK with mapping as convenience the Oxfam shop. I don't know if we'd
better map Oxfam 2nd hand clothes as shop=clothes or shop=charity... After
a  look on the wiki, it seems OK to map Oxfam 2nd hand shops as charity
since the money goes to Oxfam for charity. Anyway, I knwo some places where
the Oxfam shops mix the second hand clothes and the fair-trade food and
crafts.

Julien

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:08 PM, joost schouppe 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was looking at fair trade stores recently. I've always considered Oxfam
> Wereldwinkel (don't know what they're called in French, it's the Oxfam
> shops with fair trade products from around the world) to be something like
> a convenience store (a kruidenier, a small supermarktet), with just fair
> trade shops. Much like a bio-shop is a convenience store with organic stuff.
>
> So in that logic you would have:
> shop=convenience + respectively fair_trade=only or organic=only .
>
> In the case of organic shops, the case seems closed, but I saw a lot of
> Oxfam shops tagged as shop=charity. While Oxfam does have charity shops
> (where they sell second hand books or clothes), I don't think their
> Wereldwinkels are within the scope of that definition.
>
> How do you feel about this?
>
> (I'm in the proces of building a little mapcontrib app [1] to add
> fair_trade tags to places like this, but wanted to know your opinion on
> these shops first. Most of these shops are in the U.K. but I wanted to ask
> here first, as here I know these places myself; I don't know what they look
> like in the UK)
>
>
> 1: https://www.mapcontrib.xyz/t/7865e7-Fair_trade_shops
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Re: [Talk-it] [dev-italia] Nuovo welcome tool

[Marco Minghini]

Complimenti e grazie per questo bellissimo strumento!

Per essere ancora più utile sarebbe bello avere un'idea in che zona il
nuovo utente è diventato attivo.

> Sarebbe bello di poter fare lo in automatico.
>
> +1

>
> Puoi accedere alla pagina dell'utente. Sulla sinistra vedi il più vicino
> luogo in cui l'utente ha fatto il primo edit. Dalla stessa pagina puoi
> scrivere una nota.
>
> Vero, ma così se voglio trovare utenti attivi nella mia zona devo andare a
vedermeli ad uno ad uno. L'informazione sulla "First edit location:" che
compare nella pagina dell'utente la aggiungerei anche nella tabellona
principale.

Ciao!
Marco
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Re: [Talk-it] Strade di servizio nelle cave

[Gianluca Boero]

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/44.7541/7.2192

in questa zona ci sono alcune cave di estrazione pietra. Non sono state 
mappate da me...se vuoi prendile di esempio.



Il 24/01/2017 22:47, demon.box ha scritto:

ciao, forse stò per chiedere una incredibile boiata ma secondo me vale sempre
la pena confrontarsi

mi trovo a mappare le strade di servizio che passano attraverso le cave di
marmo.

sono strade non pavimentate che spesso all'inizio hanno delle sbarre o un
cartello di divieto di accesso tranne che per gli addetti ai lavori.
di fatto però quando non ci lavorano (cioè soltanto la domenica) a piedi, in
mtb o anche in moto la gente ci passa dentro senza problemi.

domanda forse banale come taggo l'accessibilità di queste strade?

access=private ?

motor_vehicle=private?

che dite?

grazie.



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[Talk-GB] Announcing OSM UK at #geomob

[Jez Nicholson]

It is the #geomob meetup in London tonight. I suggested to Ed that he
announce that OSM UK is now "open for business" and that people
could/should signup as members.

This has rapidly changed into *me* announcing it rather than Edwhich is
probably better as it will focus attention. I'm not meaning to be
presumptuous and put myself as OSM UK spokesperson, but it would be good to
pass the message on and I am happy to do it. There is a good chance other
OSM-UKers will be there (Jerry? Andy? Harry?).

I am planning to say:
* OSM UK branch has been formed
* Talk-GB mailing list is getting busier
* Quarterly projects
* you could put yourself forward to be a Director if you hurry
* everyone should sign up as a member now (whilst it is free!)
* web site is osmuk.org

Any other important points?

If anyone feels they are a better candidate to announce...or were already
doing it, then please just say.

regards,
Jez
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Re: [Talk-it] Pesa a ponte per camion

[Gianluca Boero]

io devo sempre mappare i due punti peso del mio comune. Non sono per 
camion ma la filosofia è la stessa, sono più piccoli ma non cambia di 
molto come struttura.. Ci si pesa la legna, il fieno ecc ecc.



Il 24/01/2017 22:38, demon.box ha scritto:

ciao, come si mappa correttamente una pesa a ponte per camion come questa:



ho trovato qualcosa qui ma non mi è del tutto chiaro

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dweighbridge

grazie



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Re: [Talk-cz] Patra a nákupní galerie ...

[Dalibor Jelínek]

Ahoj,

1) to Atrium Flora je zmapované správně - dokonce i ten mnou upravený iD editor 
to pěkně umí prohlížet [1] - viz nahoře přepínač pater.

No, to teda neni. Patra jsou proste spatne. Ovocny svetozor je podle vytahu v 
patre ctvrtem, nikoli prvnim.

Vsechno je to posunute.

 

Dalibor

 

From: Pavel Zbytovský [mailto:zbytov...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:16 PM
To: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Subject: Re: [Talk-cz] Patra a nákupní galerie ...

 

Ahoj,

 

reaguju trochu po delší době, ale je to zajímavé téma.

 

1) to Atrium Flora je zmapované správně - dokonce i ten mnou upravený iD editor 
to pěkně umí prohlížet [1] - viz nahoře přepínač pater.

 

2) Už podle Simple Indoor Tagging [2] by měly level tagy koresponodovat zejména 
s označením ve výtahu/v realitě. Také to doporučuji.

"Local level notations per building should be reused. e.g. at Munich Airport 3 
is the ground level."

 

3) Podle mého proposalu [3] by šlo doplnit i ty footwaye - viz OC Smíchov [4]. 

 

4) Ve 2D je relativně snadný hack jak to zpřehlednit - a to filtrovat u 
way/areas pouze level=0, ale s nodama nic neuděláme. A než se to ujme, tak to 
bude nepřehledné :-)

 

Mějte se 

Pavel

 

 

[1] https://openstreetmap.cz/edit/#level=0 
 
=19.20/14.46135/50.07867

[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_Indoor_Tagging

[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/CoreIndoor

[4] http://openstreetmap.cz/edit/#id=w382843342 
 
=18.06/14.40284/50.07310  

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:41 AM Pavel Machek  > wrote:

Ahoj!

> Jo. Je to takové nepřehledné. Mně by se líbilo, kdyby byly zakresleny i
> ty zdi, aby měl člověk představu, jak to uvnitř přesně vypadá. Ale to by
> chtělo podporu na hlavní mapě. Udělat tu budovu interaktivní a po
> rozkliknutí zobrazit nějaký pokročilý prohlížeč.
>
> Ale jak to vykreslit ve 2D, aby to bylo pokud možno přehledné, to fakt
> netuším.

MUNI v Brne (tusim) ma 3D zmapovane budovy, a maji na to i
prohlizec. Nekde jsem videl zaznam z prednasky..

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] There is a misunderstanding from new mapper with the tag name:*=*

[Johan Van de Wauw]

Note that one of the developers of maps.me will be at fosdem, could be
a chance to talk about this:
https://fosdem.org/2017/schedule/event/geo_osmoffline/

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 4:59 AM, Marc Gemis  wrote:
> I think it is a maps.me problem. The mappers will not know they are adding
> the same value multiple times.
>
> Should be reported to the devs of that app.
>
> m
>
>
> Op 24 jan. 2017 22:02 schreef "Jakka" :
>
>> Hi,
>> I have seen that new mappers use the name:codelanguage=alwayssametext
>> How and where can we inform them that adding in this form is of no use...
>> Or am I completely wrong
>>
>> See
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4624827493
>>
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