Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-17 Başlik H. Can Unen
I could not find that document but I found that the gazetteer Roman used was prepared as part of a UN Group Of Experts on Geographical Names (UNGEGN) program trying to achieve standardization of geographical names. Mr. Ulgen will most probably have valuable information on the use of those gazettee

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-17 Başlik H. Can Unen
The link from HGK prohibits the redistribution of maps, Roman is right on that aspect. The Geographic Names Gazetteer is most probably bound by different terms and conditions. The use of the gazetteer is bound by the order of Turkish Armed Forces in 2009, as stated in the link: http://www.hgk.msb.

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-17 Başlik Paul Norman
> From: Roman Neumüller [mailto:em...@katpatuka.org] > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:04 AM > To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source > > I wrote about this subject already to the list in September 2011: > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tr/2011- > Sep

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-17 Başlik Roman Neumüller
I wrote about this subject already to the list in September 2011: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tr/2011-September/000193.html I just used http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/urunler/diger/gazetteer/Turkey_and_Neighborhood_GAZ_00_ing.xls for the place names of villages and mountains -

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-17 Başlik Paul Norman
No, if they’re not clean, they need to be removed. They can’t be kept around and confirmed. Also, hiding and making visible contradict each other. Before using General Directorate of Highways maps you need to confirm that the license grants the necessary permissions. From: H. Can Unen [mailt

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-17 Başlik H. Can Unen
Paul, It also says in the link you sent that, to distribute the data to third parties would be available via the consent of the map owners and paying them loyalties. But I still suggest finding another source we can use and change the tags. Can On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM, H. Can Unen wr

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-17 Başlik H. Can Unen
Hello, HGK prohibits every action besides personal use of the purchased maps, so using HGK data as a source is wrong. However, there are other sources such as the road maps of Turkish General Directorate of Highways that we may be able to check and confirm those place names and change the source

Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

2013-04-17 Başlik Orkut Murat YILMAZ
Dear Paul, Yes, HGK is the acronym for General Command of Mapping and I guess that they won't permit this situation. H. Can Ünen and me are going to try finding some official answers as soon as possible. Thanks for your warning. Best, Murat On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Paul Norman wrote: