[Talk-us] MapQuest release 3 new APIs / tools - XAPI, NPI (new!), Broken Poly tool (new!)

2011-04-08 Thread Antony Pegg
Hello all, MapQuest has pushed out three new developer tools for OSM. Hopefully you will find them useful. Full details are here on the developer blog: http://devblog.mapquest.com/2011/04/07/xapi-npi-broken_polygons/ but to summarize: http://open.mapquest.com/xapi - A running copy of Ian

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/8/2011 12:47 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2011-04-07 13:31, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/7/2011 4:09 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: Exit 183 / SR-247 South / Barstow Road is tagged ref=183 + exit_to=CA-247;Barstow Road + exit_dir=South; Does anyone have examples of places where my suggested model

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-04-07 13:47, Mike N wrote: On 4/7/2011 4:09 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: Case 2. Very occasionally, there will be more than one street name shown, usually when the ramp ends at or near a point where a street changes name. Use semicolons to place multiple values in the exit_to and exit_to_dir

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-04-08 09:55, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 12:47 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2011-04-07 13:31, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/7/2011 4:09 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: Exit 183 / SR-247 South / Barstow Road is tagged ref=183 + exit_to=CA-247;Barstow Road + exit_dir=South; Does anyone have

[Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread James Mast
I just thought I would throw this out there so this can be settled once and for all. Which ref tag setup do you think should be used for State Highways on ways (not relations)? PA-44 or 44. The reason I'm asking is because I've seen several people put the state abbreviation in the ref field

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/8/2011 2:00 PM, James Mast wrote: I just thought I would throw this out there so this can be settled once and for all. Which ref tag setup do you think should be used for State Highways on ways (not relations)? PA-44 or 44. There's a third way: use the correct abbreviation. So Florida, if a

Re: [Talk-us] MapQuest release 3 new APIs / tools - XAPI (JXAPI), NPI (new!), Broken Poly tool (new!)

2011-04-08 Thread Mike N
On 4/8/2011 11:58 AM, Antony Pegg wrote: Hello all, MapQuest has pushed out three new developer tools for OSM. Hopefully you will find them useful. Yes! Thanks for the new tools - some interesting stuff there. ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Nathan Mills
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:11:49 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 2:00 PM, James Mast wrote: I just thought I would throw this out there so this can be settled once and for all. Which ref tag setup do you think should be used for State Highways on ways (not relations)? PA-44 or 44.

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Kristian M Zoerhoff
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 02:03:25PM -0500, Nathan Mills wrote: On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:11:49 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 2:00 PM, James Mast wrote: I just thought I would throw this out there so this can be settled once and for all. Which ref tag setup do you think should be used

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/8/2011 3:03 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: The SR naming leads to ambiguity as to which state's route number is being referenced. Just like name=Main Street leads to ambiguity as to which city's main street it is. I understand the overlap between 20 and 42, but here the solution is to make

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/8/11 3:35 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: Shouldn't the ref tag be an unambiguous reference to a given road in a route network? Clearly, one should not put name=MI XX on a Michigan state route (unless there is a road sign reading MI XX), but ref=MI XX provides said unambiguous reference and can

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/8/2011 3:58 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i know NE2 likes to make the prefix go away for state ref tags For Florida, yes, since that's the statewide standard. For other states, I usually don't tag without a prefix. I certainly don't make it go away en masse.

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/8/11 4:02 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 3:58 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i know NE2 likes to make the prefix go away for state ref tags For Florida, yes, since that's the statewide standard. For other states, I usually don't tag without a prefix. I certainly don't make it go

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-04-07 22:57, James Mast wrote: You know guys, we should also figure out right here and now how to deal with left exits at Interstate splits where both ways are motorways. Here's such an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36.49591lon=-80.74103zoom=16layers=M It's the I-77/I-74

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/8/11 4:26 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 4:18 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 4/8/11 4:02 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 3:58 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i know NE2 likes to make the prefix go away for state ref tags For Florida, yes, since that's the statewide standard. For

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/8/2011 4:46 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 4/8/11 4:26 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Do you have an example of that outside my first few months of editing? this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5223229 from 7/2010, in which the ref tag for

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/8/11 4:50 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 4:46 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 4/8/11 4:26 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Do you have an example of that outside my first few months of editing? this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5223229 from 7/2010, in which

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Mike N
On 4/8/2011 1:16 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: So someone has to parse the sign to be able to properly enter the information? And I'm still not clear on the benefit of having it separated if the first thing the data consumer does is string it back together. Not all consumers are for the purpose of

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-03-28 12:19, Ian Dees wrote: In this picture: http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpg What is the proposed tag for the highway=motorway_junction node? Are we tagging the node with exactly what is on the sign or are we looking down the road

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-04-08 14:06, Mike N wrote: On 4/8/2011 1:16 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: I would not be averse to something like: exit_to=CA-247 South OR exit_to_root=CA-247 exit_to_dir=South Consumers that have evolved can use the second form if it is found, or the first if it is not. Older consumers

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/8/2011 6:22 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2011-03-28 12:19, Ian Dees wrote: In this picture: http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpg What is the proposed tag for the highway=motorway_junction node? Are we tagging the node with exactly what is on

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Mike N
On 4/8/2011 6:34 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: The point of the most recent change was standardization - consumers should not need to code 2 routines to handle both forms. One if does not two routines make. Recent software uses test cases to ensure that quality levels are maintained through the

Re: [Talk-us] update to MQ critical address file for US, CA and GB (4Apr2011)

2011-04-08 Thread Alan Mintz
Just a reminder - please don't blindly import these - they have been shown to be of limited accuracy. Example from the current file: 18175 Chatsworth Avenue,US,CA,Granada Hills,91344,34.263971,-118.528055 a. It's actually Chatsworth Street, not Avenue, according to LA County

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-08 Thread Toby Murray
Yeah... consensus would be great but seems to be rather elusive. Here is a case in point. Another mapper has been tagging ways on Kansas highways as K-xx which is how people usually pronounce it. Street signs usually just have the number inside of the sunflower logo without any kind of lettering

Re: [Talk-us] Peculiar addressing in Burr Ridge, IL

2011-04-08 Thread Kristian Zoerhoff
Ah, rural Chicago addresses. Kane and DuPage counties use an arcane system based on the number of miles you are from State Madison in Chicago. In this case, you in the 16th mile west of State. Within a given mile, addresses increase from 000 to 999, inclusive. What's truly maddening is that

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-04-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/8/2011 10:31 PM, James Mast wrote: Well, I was just testing MapQuest and it thinks that I-74's split there from I-77 is the main highway (somewhat). http://open.mapquest.com/?le=thk=7-OEgrKIB6vs http://open.mapquest.com/?le=thk=7-OEgrKIB6vs= It says Stay STRAIGHT to go onto I-74 E. The