Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Toby Murray
Ok well so far I see no opposition to deleting tiger:upload_uuid. I might go ahead and work on some code for this. Other than that we have some votes for keeping tiger:county, tiger:zip and tiger:separated although I personally still have it in for tiger:separated :) Any thoughts on

[Talk-us] Kern County Import Cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
I happened to be looking at Kern County and noticed two problems with the imports that seem to be systemic over the area. The first is classification of empty areas as landuse=residential (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/540695 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/53993995)

Re: [Talk-us] Kern County Import Cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-07-29 00:30, Paul Norman wrote: While doing this cleanup I would suggest removing attribution, description, kern:Comb_Zn, kern:Zn_Cd1 and setting source=Kern_County_GIS There might be some objects that have been edited, so you'll want to add ;Kern_County_GIS if there is an existing

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Kern County Import Cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-07-29 01:04, Toby Murray wrote: And then we end up with things that are off by 15-20 meters and look crappy: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=34.95455lon=-118.16858zoom=16layers=M It looks like the landuses are shifted by about 28m at 126 degrees from Bing z19 dated

Re: [Talk-us] Highway ref again.

2012-07-29 Thread James Mast
When it comes to Interstates multiplexing, I think we should list first the one that the exit numbers are for on the highway. Some examples would be as follows: ref=I 76;I 70 on the PA Turnpike since I-76 is the main route and all the exits along there use I-76's mileage.ref=I 77;I 74 in NC

Re: [Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2012-07-19 00:42 -0500]: Any other common problems that people have seen? The most common problem I see is a missing way. But all the nodes are there sitting in space. I've also tried:

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Depends whether you visit LA I guess ;) , but assuming you do, let's roll up our sleeves and fix it. I don't think that one self-proclaimed viking deciding not to agree to the new licence completely damns OSM! An

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I rather think the non-responders could have been a separate category, and their data could have been kept. Doesn't fly legally, sadly. You can't say I'm ignoring any rights on this item just because the rights-holder hasn't responded to my e-mails. That said, I did

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread william skora
Here's my 2 cents on the mentioned tiger tags, fwiw: tiger:cfcc - As I understand, its original purpose was to classify different highway types, but once the appropriate OSM tags [derived in part from this tag, and then also from whatever other sources, imagery, personal visit, etc] have been

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread David ``Smith''
Personally, I think there should be a tag to differentiate between a one-way road and half of a divided road; yes, a human can look at the map and make that determination instantly, but a computer requires some advanced analysis. (I can imagine some extra-nice rendering could benefit from this

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, Sorry to be late to chip in. I would keep CFCC. It's a good tag to have both to be able to generate statistics (how much of original TIGER class mapping remains intact?) as well as for reference; I find the CFCC classification is usually good - even if the mapping onto OSM k/v is sometimes

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:21 PM, william skora skorasau...@gmail.com wrote: Tiger:tlid - Could be removed. I've had newbies ask me at mapping parties what it means, I haven't been able to answer them. I haven't seen any use for its inclusion at this point. FWIW, I strongly support removing

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:33 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Some people may not even be aware of this but JOSM silently discards the created_by tag if it exists on any object you change and upload to the API. This tag was deemed unnecessary and counterproductive a long time ago

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: While we're incrementing every single version number of TIGER data, we should think about expanding the road names, too. Using the prefix and suffix data already on the majority of the ways makes this pretty fool-proof, so

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 29 July 2012 23:21, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: While we're incrementing every single version number of TIGER data, we should think about expanding the road names, too. Using the prefix and suffix data

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-07-28 00:33, Toby Murray wrote: What do you think about adding a couple of TIGER tags to be silently dropped? ... tiger:separated tiger:upload_uuid +1 tiger:separated I never knew what it was supposed to mean. If it was (as its name suggests) to indicate a physical separation

Re: [Talk-us] Kern County Import Cleanup

2012-07-29 Thread Nathan Mixter
Kern County does have its set of unique challenges. As mentioned, the rural areas of Kern County I imported from the official county files tend to be too generalized - either landuse=farm for agricultural land or landuse=residential for any type of residential area even if it is rural

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Some people have been removing some TIGER tags already for a while. My only concern would be that, if all the TIGER tags are removed from an object, we should add TIGER05 to the source tag, so as not to

[Talk-us] NYC administrative boundaries and Nominatim

2012-07-29 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Hi all, I'm going to discuss this with the local NYC community (some of which are on this list) but I'm going through NYC and I'm looking for things that aren't right. I've tried to do some nominatim queries and the results have been frustrating at best. Some of these appear to be TIGER

Re: [Talk-us] NYC administrative boundaries and Nominatim

2012-07-29 Thread Skye Book
Brooklyn actually does come up way down in the Nominatim list.. I think part of the confusion may be that this is technically Kings County (which renders invalid the possibility of using the administrative level of county as the key for the boroughs). Boroughs are somewhat unique beasts to New