Re: [Talk-us] deleting misleading CDPs

2013-05-31 Thread stevea
richard: I agree with your particular case that this CDP (Census Designated Place) might be deleted, mostly for the reason that there is a named town with the same name. A named town has specific borders codified in state or local statute, making it distinctly real and distinctly of local

Re: [Talk-us] Take another look at notes!

2013-05-31 Thread Alex Barth
Craigslist had added a feature to their OSM powered maps to submit map problems back to OSM Have you found that feature actually on craigslist? On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: As I'm sure a lot of you are aware, osm.org has a new notes [1] feature

[Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Frederic Julien
Dear all, I'm working on a presentation and interested to hear your thoughts. What are the top 2-3 changes that could improve OSM data quality? That could be processes, tools, methods, training, peer review, attributes, etc. If this sort of info is available elsewhere let me know. Looking

Re: [Talk-us] deleting misleading CDPs

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Welty [mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:22 PM To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [Talk-us] deleting misleading CDPs my feeling is that if there's a named town then including a much smaller CDP with the same name is quite misleading. i think the same

Re: [Talk-us] Take another look at notes!

2013-05-31 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: Craigslist had added a feature to their OSM powered maps to submit map problems back to OSM Have you found that feature actually on craigslist? It's in the process of posting a housing ad. When you place the marker for

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Mike Thompson
Frederic, How about more mappers? Mike On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Frederic Julien fjulie...@yahoo.comwrote: Dear all, I'm working on a presentation and interested to hear your thoughts. What are the top 2-3 changes that could improve OSM data quality? That could be processes,

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
One thing that would help in the editor software would be, once you select a tag, and list the preset values available, to have the option to list the wiki descriptions of what those values mean. This should be optional, and should come up in a separate window so you don't lose track of what

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Frederic Julien fjulie...@yahoo.comwrote: I'm working on a presentation and interested to hear your thoughts. What are the top 2-3 changes that could improve OSM data quality? That could be processes, tools, methods, training, peer review, attributes, etc.

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
As already noted, quality is in the eye of the beholder. That said, there are some objective quality indicators such as positional accuracy, completeness, resolution. I summarized this in a paper a few years ago from another source, where I also introduced the notion of 'crowd quality' in an

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: and finally how do we make local communities work? Latter is super important because great local data (transit, businesses, addresses) is key to the usefulness (hey, another way of thinking about quality!) of OSM. Great

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Frederic Julien
Thanks to Martijn and others for their input. I'll share my presentation via slideshare once completed. Please continue to share your insights :) Kind Regards, Frederic From: Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org To: Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net Cc: OSM

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread stevea
Frederic: Validator is an excellent tool, but currently only works with JOSM. I'd love to see Potlatch and/or iD do something similar. True, many (most) ignore what Validator may report, and while Errors are always Errors, Warnings are a bit more subtle and really must be taken one at a

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Kai Krueger
Martijn van Exel-3 wrote As already noted, quality is in the eye of the beholder. Yes, quality lies in the eye of the beholder. Or perhaps better said in the eye of the data consumer. Therefore the assessment of quality will depend on the application and use case you have in mind. I think OSM

Re: [Talk-us] Take another look at notes!

2013-05-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/31/13 2:57 PM, Alex Barth wrote: Craigslist had added a feature to their OSM powered maps to submit map problems back to OSM Have you found that feature actually on craigslist? i'd going to go take a look at the UI if i can find it. there is a note on the wiki page for the new feature:

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Richard, We need: 1. More people. A big part of the map is untouched. We could reach out more to the educational community to get middle-school and high-school students involved. 2. Better training for people who are new to OSM. I think learnosm.org is very good. I'm a

Re: [Talk-us] Take another look at notes!

2013-05-31 Thread Ian Dees
On May 31, 2013 5:52 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 5/31/13 6:30 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 5/31/13 2:57 PM, Alex Barth wrote: Craigslist had added a feature to their OSM powered maps to submit map problems back to OSM Have you found that feature actually on

[Talk-us] Post tornado HOT mapping

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
I would like to give a heads-up to any Humanitarian OSM Team folks on this, since assistance may be needed as early as this weekend given developing events with dangerous storms moving through most major Oklahoma cities at this hour. This looks like it's going to be another hairy day for

[Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Norman
After a delay the DWG and OSMF have reached conclusions on the case involving a turn restriction dispute between Paul Johnson and NE2 that was referred to it by Paul Johnson, NE2, and multiple other members of the community. This decision took an extended amount of time due to the investigation

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Russ Nelson
Richard Welty writes: 3) in the US (and you did ask on talk-us), identifying and dealing with the shaky Tiger data from the 2007 tiger import. some of this has been done, but it's an ongoing effort and is one of those things that is easier to say than it is to do I've been adding lakes

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/31/13 9:39 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: I've been working on finding and fixing them in New York State. I've probably got more than half -- maybe 60% fixed. Hopefully even 70%. And I'm just one mapper (well, and you're another mapper who's done a ton, plus there's a few more I'm sure). My main

Re: [Talk-us] Take another look at notes!

2013-05-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: ok, i found report a problem on the map view for housing units in an area. i'll have to go find a map problem and report it via the GUI so i can see the full cycle. I only found two notes for the Greater Seattle

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:02 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: Clifford Snow writes: First you need to define what good data quality is and second, you need to collect data to measure data quality. Once good data is collect then start determining root cause of the problem. Most

[Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments

2013-05-31 Thread James Mast
This user has been brought to my attention with him gun-jumping highways marking them as open when they aren't yet (I-74/US-311 [1] - I've already fixed this one), or adding completely fictional alignments for highways that aren't even under-construction yet or proposed (I-66 in IN [2], and

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martijn van Exel wrote: I think I just wrote half of one of my SOTM US talk. I think you just wrote half of mine too. ;) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OSM-Data-Quality-tp5763578p5763648.html Sent from the USA mailing list archive at

Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments

2013-05-31 Thread Clay Smalley
I've had to clean up his edits before. What bothers me is that he's unresponsive and never leaves any comments on his edits. I've brought him up before to DWG but nothing's been done. On May 31, 2013 9:59 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: This user has been brought to my attention

Re: [Talk-us] OSM Data Quality

2013-05-31 Thread stevea
ramble++; Clifford, yes I could sense what you were trying to say: I have a thirty+ year Quality background at Apple, Adobe, IBM, the University of California (and others) as an employee, contractor, subcontractor and consultant. You are doing fine, you just did fine. OSM does sample