Am 12.06.2013 um 03:06 schrieb Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us:
One reason for including boundaries is querying to determine what exists in a
neighborhood. Another is to see the result from a search using nominatim. A
single node doesn't really tell much of a story, while a boundary
Am 12.06.2013 um 06:21 schrieb Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com:
Your reply really doesn't address what William is saying, which is
that neighbourhood boundaries are subjective. I think we all agree
that neighbourhoods are useful, but they're worse than political
boundaries in terms of
On Fri May 31 23:48:45 UTC 2013, Paul Norman penorman at mac.com wrote:
The full text of the DWG recommendation to the board is available at
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/File:DWG_NE2_Turn_Restriction_dispute.pdf
but the executive summary is as follows:
I missed this thread until now, so
On 6/12/2013 7:53 AM, Josh Doe wrote:
I'm
disappointed that the above recommendation didn't acknowledge that NE2
has done good work. I would say that on the whole his contributions in
terms of data are definitely a net positive, including a great deal of
geometry improvement, addition of new
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 08:34:18 -0400
From: nice...@att.net
To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2
On 6/12/2013 7:53 AM, Josh Doe wrote:
I'm
disappointed that the above recommendation didn't acknowledge that NE2
has done good work. I would
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
Your reply really doesn't address what William is saying, which is
that neighbourhood boundaries are subjective. I think we all agree
that neighbourhoods are useful, but they're worse than political
boundaries in terms
I agree with the advantage of polygons when performing queries of the type
'show me all bakeries in this neighborhood'. This will however only work if
that neighborhood is clearly defined in terms of boundaries. If we agree
that this is not the case, we are just going to be creating confusion and
Interesting discussion, I've been working at thinking how to approach doing
this in my hometown of Tempe, AZ
http://www.tempe.gov/index.aspx?page=792
They classify neighborhoods two ways, homeowners associations (the classic
HOA) and neighborhood associations. The former is usually set up by
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
Could we use either Geonames or Zillow to drive improvement to
neighborhood name coverage in OSM?
Using Zillow wouldn't be an improvement. Where I live, Zillow has the same
incorrect information as the TIGER CDP (which I
Martijn writes:
I agree with the advantage of polygons when performing queries of
the type 'show me all bakeries in this neighborhood'. This will
however only work if that neighborhood is clearly defined in terms
of boundaries. If we agree that this is not the case, we are just
going to be
These are based off of Lambertus's work here:
http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl
If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel
free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The
odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by
asking on the talk-us@
2013/6/12 stevea stevea...@softworkers.com
Is Jane Street (NYC) in Chelsea or Greenwich Village? Well, kind of
both. This is where nodes work better.
well, they could also overlap (so you could see from the polygons that
there is a certain area which somehow belongs to both neighbourhoods
Well, on the flip side, there's also been some serious damage from torquing
the primary and trunk tags on an indiscriminate nationwide basis that's
still in the process of being fixed two years later.
On Jun 12, 2013 8:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
I had some positive
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
I agree that most neighborhood boundaries are subjective. Of the cities I've
lived in, some neighborhoods are clearly define, usually by natural or man
made artifacts, others are definitely fluid. When importing
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
The answer to #1 is Yes, neighborhood data is useful.
The answer to #2 is No, for the reasons outlined.
These are *your* answer these questions. I disagree with your conclusion on
#2, for reasons outlined.
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I think we will be VERY reliant on Arm Chair Mappers to help add the NPS
contribution to the community. Program needs will vary from park to park.
Once I get a solid methodology for park OSM tagging worked out, I'll be
looking for assistance with Great Smoky Mtns..
Another important aspect of
I support this. Go to Google Maps and search for SoMa, South Beach, and
Rincon Hill. The office I am sitting in right now is in all of those
polygons.
Some cities formally define their neighborhoods, and OSM could use that
data. Some neighborhoods are more informal, and those may make sense as
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
These are *your* answer these questions. I disagree with your conclusion on
#2, for reasons outlined.
Let's not get personal here...
I don't see how any of the discussions here have addressed some basic
questions, so
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
1. How can someone survey a neighborhood? It seems that in many cases,
neighborhoods are subjective, and people may disagree on where it is,
and both be right. How does your proposal address this issue?
It's the same
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
These are *your* answer these questions. I disagree with your conclusion
on
#2, for reasons outlined.
Let's not get personal here...
Once I get a solid methodology for park OSM tagging worked out,
I am hoping I am misunderstanding this, but isn't it up to the OSM
community to arrive at a consensus as to how things should be tagged?
Another important aspect of NPS OSM mapping, *IMHO*, is mapping the
surrounding community of a
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