[Talk-us] [talk-us] Currently available good GPS for use with OSM mapping in the USA?

2013-11-27 Thread Volker Schmidt
Volker, in the last year, I have been busy hiking, mapping and updating national forest and wilderness areas in and around Big Sur (the whole of Monterey County, or MoCo, actually). Not only did another prolific mapper and I complete a careful import (Farm Mapping Project from State of

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US State highways.

2013-11-27 Thread Peter Davies
Martijn, I think it would be conceptually clearest for all the 2-way single carriageway ways to point the same way and would suggest that this should normally in be the direction of increasing milepoints/pointes kilometriques (usually northwards or eastwards). At Castle Rock we call this the

Re: [Talk-us] [josm-dev] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward

2013-11-27 Thread Peter Davies
Martijn I, too, await your clarification for KristenK, as I'm a little confused too. We need to keep in mind that positive and negative GIS Linear Reference directions (which are handy as global solutions applying everywhere in the US at least) beginning at milepoint 0.0, usually on the southern

Re: [Talk-us] [josm-dev] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward

2013-11-27 Thread Peter Davies
When I typed The cost of reporting the whole route is usually prohibitive. below I meant The cost of reposting the whole route is usually prohibitive. By posting I mean signing. Peter Davies, Castle Rock On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Peter Davies peter.dav...@crc-corp.comwrote: Martijn

Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US State highways.

2013-11-27 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 01:11 2013-11-27, Peter Davies wrote: Martijn, I think it would be conceptually clearest for all the 2-way single carriageway ways to point the same way and would suggest that this should normally in be the direction of increasing milepoints/pointes kilometriques (usually northwards or

Re: [Talk-us] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward

2013-11-27 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 23:12 2013-11-26, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 03:46:47PM -0700, Martijn van Exel wrote: So the relation between the east--west and north--south member roles is equivalent to the relation between forward--backward. Because the cardinal direction is commonly included on the

[Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Josh Doe
I recently hiked a very small section of the Appalachian Trail, and was shocked to see the section hadn't been mapped yet in OSM. Looking at what's in the relation, only 2689 km of the 3504 km trail are mapped. Granted, there's very likely some sections that have been mapped but not added to the

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Adam Schreiber
Josh, A while ago, I had imported and simplified the ATC centerline data from the trailhead in GA through part of VA. I stopped there as that was where individual mappers had started to trace GPS data. This work was done by sadam-AT. Regards, Adam On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Josh Doe

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/27/13 7:44 AM, Josh Doe wrote: Massachusetts, 2991960, 8.3, 145.2 Connecticut, N/A, 0, 83 New York, 2007688, 78.4, 142.3 i'm willing to take a look at NY/CT/MA over the next couple of months richard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/27/13 8:26 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 11/27/13 7:44 AM, Josh Doe wrote: Massachusetts, 2991960, 8.3, 145.2 Connecticut, N/A, 0, 83 New York, 2007688, 78.4, 142.3 i'm willing to take a look at NY/CT/MA over the next couple of months looking at the gap from NY 17 west now. this is

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Thanks for raising this-- I just took a look at the PA relation which apparently was last edited by me (what?). There's a gap in my hometown (which I may or may not have created). Fixing now! On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 11/27/13 8:26 AM,

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/27/13 9:09 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 11/27/13 8:26 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 11/27/13 7:44 AM, Josh Doe wrote: Massachusetts, 2991960, 8.3, 145.2 Connecticut, N/A, 0, 83 New York, 2007688, 78.4, 142.3 i'm willing to take a look at NY/CT/MA over the next couple of months looking

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: [...] the data appears pretty good, the segment in Orange County NY that i just filled in meets up appropriately with previously mapped sections (presumably the result of OSM hikers with GPS units and where i looked

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/27/13 10:51 AM, Josh Doe wrote: I agree with you. What about attributes, anything useful we should import when possible? I can't view the data now, but I believe I saw SURFACE and CLUB which might be useful. A whole lot of unneeded GPS info. i'm not keeping any of it, the source tag

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Adam Schreiber
There used to be a shelters/springs data set that would probably be useful to include. Cheers, Adam On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 11/27/13 10:51 AM, Josh Doe wrote: I agree with you. What about attributes, anything useful we should import

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Richard Welty wrote: Josh Doe wrote: I believe I saw SURFACE and CLUB which might be useful. i'm not keeping any of it, the source tag points back to the original data set and that should be sufficient. [...] i don't know that i see a mapping from the AT surface attributes to our surface

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/27/13 12:11 PM, Adam Schreiber wrote: There used to be a shelters/springs data set that would probably be useful to include. i saw that set, it's on the same download page, along with a parking area set. i figured it could wait until the trail proper was complete. richard

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/27/13 1:00 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: If you can find a mapping from the Trail surface to OSM surface= tags, or even to tracktype= at a pinch, that'd be superb. I've just built a cycling router (using OSRM) and surface tags make _all_ the difference. They're something OSM greatly

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/27/13 10:59 AM, Richard Welty wrote: if we want club info, i'd suggest breaking up the relations where needed and adding the clubs to those rather to the ways. now that i've thought about it, i would like to suggest redoing the relations by the responsible clubs, as the division by

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/27/13 2:03 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 11/27/13 12:11 PM, Adam Schreiber wrote: There used to be a shelters/springs data set that would probably be useful to include. i saw that set, it's on the same download page, along with a parking area set. i figured it could wait until the trail

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
since there haven't been any objections, i'm going to upload what i did this morning. single focused changeset so it can be reverted easily enough. richard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 11/27/13 10:59 AM, Richard Welty wrote: if we want club info, i'd suggest breaking up the relations where needed and adding the clubs to those rather to the ways. now that i've thought about it, i would like to

Re: [Talk-us] [josm-dev] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward

2013-11-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: On Tue, November 26, 2013 1:57 pm, Ian Dees wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:30:25PM -0700, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, I'm new to this list so please bear with me. The

Re: [Talk-us] [josm-dev] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
On 11/27/13 2:46 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: You also have compass-point letters used to distinguish between branches of the same route. For example, US 31 runs north/south. A portion of it branches off as US 31W, which runs roughly parallel, some miles westward of US 31, and eventually merges

Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Kam, Kristen -(p)
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Re: [Talk-us] Completing the Appalachian Trail relation

2013-11-27 Thread Richard Welty
NY is more or less done. will wait a day or two before starting CT in case some CT mapper steps forward. On 11/27/13 2:28 PM, Josh Doe wrote: And agreed about mass import, we need to do QC. I did notice there are some sections which have been rerouted and need to be updated, and some sections

Re: [Talk-us] [josm-dev] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward

2013-11-27 Thread Saikrishna Arcot
The same applies for I-35 in the DFW area; I-35E runs through Dallas while I-35W runs through Fort Worth. Saikrishna Arcot On Wed 27 Nov 2013 03:56:51 PM EST, Richard Welty wrote: On 11/27/13 2:46 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: You also have compass-point letters used to distinguish between

Re: [Talk-us] [josm-dev] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward

2013-11-27 Thread James Mast
However, with the split Interstates (I-35W/I-35E in both TX and MN I-69E/I-69C/I-69W in TX) US Highways (and a few state highways), the letters are part of the route number. So, they wouldn't have any effect on the role part for relations. When given routing info, they'd act just like