Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Ian Dees
Hi folks, This conversation is over. If we can't have a conversation about highway tagging without making personal attacks, then we can't have the conversation. Please work harder to stay on topic, have empathy towards your fellow mapper, and have constructive conversations. The mailing list is

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Nathan Mills
The reason you don't get it is because you are not listening. Nobody has said the motorway tagging should continue through the intersection. The debate is entirely about where the classification change takes place. There are several instances in Arkansas where a motorway ends similarly. In

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Evin Fairchild
Links please? On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 3:06 PM Paul Johnson > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 5:04 PM Evin Fairchild wrote: > >> You are proving my point once again re misrepresentation of what we're >> saying. It would only be accurate for you to say that we're going against >> federal guidelines is if

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Paul Johnson
Sure thing, go back to about the last year of his edits. On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 5:06 PM Evin Fairchild wrote: > Can you provide changesets showing where NE2 mass edited motorways in the > way you're describing? > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 3:02 PM Paul Johnson >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:58

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 5:04 PM Evin Fairchild wrote: > You are proving my point once again re misrepresentation of what we're > saying. It would only be accurate for you to say that we're going against > federal guidelines is if we were to say that the motorway should continue > thru the at

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Evin Fairchild
Can you provide changesets showing where NE2 mass edited motorways in the way you're describing? On Sun, Dec 2, 2018, 3:02 PM Paul Johnson > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:58 PM Thomas Silas wrote: > >> As for the situation in question: I agree with the vast majority of the >> posters both in the

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Evin Fairchild
You are proving my point once again re misrepresentation of what we're saying. It would only be accurate for you to say that we're going against federal guidelines is if we were to say that the motorway should continue thru the at grade intersection. None of us are saying that! I'm really getting

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:58 PM Thomas Silas wrote: > As for the situation in question: I agree with the vast majority of the > posters both in the changeset and in talk-us. There are countless examples > of the motorway tag extending to the first intersection (or to a visible > change in road

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:30 PM Evin Fairchild wrote: > Once again, I see you're misrepresenting the discussion and trying to make > us look like a bunch of idiots for not accepting your way of doing things. > There's no way you're so dense as to assume that because we pretty much all > want the

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 4:19 PM Adam Franco wrote: > I'm not saying that the surface junction itself would still be motorway > (or even the area of reduced speed approaching it), but once one is far > enough beyond those limiting features and the speeds and other aspects are > the same as the

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Evin Fairchild
Once again, I see you're misrepresenting the discussion and trying to make us look like a bunch of idiots for not accepting your way of doing things. There's no way you're so dense as to assume that because we pretty much all want the motorway designation to extend all the way to the first at

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Adam Franco
I'm not saying that the surface junction itself would still be motorway (or even the area of reduced speed approaching it), but once one is far enough beyond those limiting features and the speeds and other aspects are the same as the rest of the motorway, the roadway is functionally a motorway. I

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Michael Corey
Unsubscribe On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 6:18 PM Paul Johnson Can I get some voice of reason in > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/64919426? There seems to be > quite a few people (and one AARoads forum troll egging it on) that are > trying to propel the idea that motorways have at-grade

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Paul Johnson
The commonly accepted definition of freeways in the US excludes surface junctions, whereas expressways (trunks) does include intersections. I honestly am surprised a group of roadgeeks isn't more attuned to this distinction. On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 3:15 PM Adam Franco wrote: > On Sun, Dec 2,

Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway

2018-12-02 Thread Adam Franco
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:36 AM Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 12:30 AM Bryan Housel wrote: > >> I do understand your point, but a dozen or so people on talk-us and the >> six or so people on that changeset 64919426 >> > > Well, 1 person, an AA roads troll and like 5 sockpuppets.

[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #436 2018-11-20-2018-11-26

2018-12-02 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 436, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/11041/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages