Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-24 Thread Paul Johnson
How about... network=US:I modifier=Future On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com [2013-06-22 20:04 -0400]: Yep, here's picture proof that I personally took a few years ago of a Future I-26 shield:

Re: [Talk-us] Route relation pages

2013-06-22 Thread Paul Johnson
Pretty cool so far, though for the Ref, it'd help a lot if it sorted numerically rather than alphabetically. 117A shouldn't appear before 3... On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi, A few of us were talking about setting up custom highway shield

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Johnson
, 2013 8:25 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: TxDOT is cited in Wikipedia as documenting them as being the same network (farm to market), and no RM and FM have the same number. They just change the sign to RM when the route primarily passes through ranches instead of farms. According

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Johnson
to, and/or the cited source? I'd rather solve this without more mailing list drama, if possible. On Jun 20, 2013 9:06 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Check the Farm-to-market page on Wikipedia. On Jun 19, 2013 11:00 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com wrote: Does the Wikipedia bit

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Also, how is the situation on the state level? I notice that for some states, there are no State Route relation pages. ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_Numbered_Highway_Relations#See_also ) I'm

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Curious if you guys are using US:KS for the network, which would fit the pattern or not? I ask because on the way's ref tags, some people are correctly using KS, but others are just using K. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I'm guessing

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
and there are quite a lot of them. I made a Mapcraft to help add relations to them all: http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/269 I've made a little progress in the Texas Panhandle but we definitely need more people to help out if it's gonna get done. On Jun 19, 2013 7:39 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-19 Thread Paul Johnson
roads. There may be little to no overlap between RM and FM, and they may serve the same purpose, but I see no need to go through them all and change all of them to one network. They are different networks according to the state of Texas. On Jun 19, 2013 12:52 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Kind of looking forward to that, too, since it would allow more accurately mapping situations like Oregon, where State Highways are the original numbers used on trailblazers and what ODOT refers to roads it's roadways as, as opposed to the State Routes that usually traverse multiple state

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Johnson
. ** ** Kerry Irons ** ** ** ** *From:* Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] *Sent:* Saturday, June 08, 2013 11:24 PM *To:* OpenStreetMap talk-us list *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags ** ** ** ** On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-14 Thread Paul Johnson
This would be an acceptable compromise. On Jun 14, 2013 6:00 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 6/14/2013 5:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: We do map proposed routes, we don't map for the renderer. earlier In which I would really prefer this be addressed as a rendering issue. I believe

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute, NE2

2013-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Well, on the flip side, there's also been some serious damage from torquing the primary and trunk tags on an indiscriminate nationwide basis that's still in the process of being fixed two years later. On Jun 12, 2013 8:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I had some positive

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

2013-06-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.orgwrote: But how would such a thing be tagged? By boundary, what's the next level below city? For instance, here in Portland, we have defined neighborhoods, which have neighborhood associations, and a city bureau (the Office

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: It sounds like you want to add a feature to OSM/OCM so that the corridors can be shown. From a mapping standpoint, I don’t see what this accomplishes since the AASHTO map was created at the “50,000 foot level” and

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: So Paul, what you really want is advocacy mapping. Not mapping reality but mapping what you want to have. It comes as a great surprise to me that this is what OSM is all about. Do you think this is the consensus of

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-08 Thread Paul Johnson
I see the route numbers as potentially valuable to differentiate routes where two may cross or duplex. Unless I'm missing something fundamental, pretty much every aspect in a state=proposed relation isn't final until it's official, including the route number. Especially since as far as I'm

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:35 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Again Paul I don’t understand what you are saying: you state “if AASHTO is already referring to them in proposals.” AASHTO has prepared a corridor plan. AASHTO does not develop routes. Route development takes place

Re: [Talk-us] Post tornado HOT mapping

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
-Original Message- From: Paul Johnson ** Sent: May 31, 2013 7:36 PM To: ok...@gis.ou.edu, OpenStreetMap talk-us list ** Subject: [Talk-us] Post tornado HOT mapping I would like to give a heads-up to any Humanitarian OSM Team folks on this, since assistance may be needed as early

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
See, that's the crux of the thing, though... firstly, be aware that NE2 was banned because he was pushing his agenda against the wishes of the community, and taking things off-list where things couldn't be discussed with the community, so you're just as guilty as he is right now with that

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:49 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Actually Paul, people have disagreed. There are those who have taken the position in this exchange that Who does AASHTO think they are? I and others have tried to clarify that. Then I have to wonder why ACA is

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: You really are making this personal Paul, but I don’t understand why. That's not the intent. I only asked that those who might want to help clean up the mis-tagged routes could contact me directly. Is that some

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: ** Adventure Cycling did not propose the USBR route numbers. The route numbering system and the corridor plan came from AASHTO. We had representation on the AASHTO Task Force but were only one of many members on

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson
This creates major issues for many routes in the US, especially bike routes, US Historic 66, US Historic 30, and US Historic 666, which due to regional significance, unique and interesting signage, or both, frequently are missing trailblazers, confirmation signage or way finding signage in part or

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:40 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: I have no problem with OSM mappers putting proposed bike routes on maps but they should not be assigning USBR route numbers to them when they are not approved USBRs. In some cases there is a process underway to get a

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: The current discussion is about tagging a proposed bike route with a number in USBR namespace, when the USBR naming authority has not put that router/number into proposed status. Then the relevant bodies need to stop bandying

Re: [Talk-us] Removing US Bicycle Route tags

2013-06-05 Thread Paul Johnson
What's the source for this system? Is it widely adopted? On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:01 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I just wanted to add that the CycleNet proposal I mentioned in my previous post is simply a numbering protocol added to ALREADY EXISTING (Class I, II and III)

[Talk-us] Post tornado HOT mapping

2013-05-31 Thread Paul Johnson
I would like to give a heads-up to any Humanitarian OSM Team folks on this, since assistance may be needed as early as this weekend given developing events with dangerous storms moving through most major Oklahoma cities at this hour. This looks like it's going to be another hairy day for

Re: [Talk-us] Tag for Tim Horton's

2013-05-29 Thread Paul Johnson
While it tries to be more like an upscale fast-food place, it's core concept and the way people interact with it is definitely cafe. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: I've never been to a Tim Hortons, but it looks like it's very similar to the Dunkin'

[Talk-us] Fwd: RE: Fwd: [okgis] Moore Tornado Aerials- May 21, 2013

2013-05-23 Thread Paul Johnson
Throwing this into the list, I believe this makes the 9 aerial for Moore OK for us. -- Forwarded message -- From: Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org Date: May 23, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [Talk-us] Fwd: [okgis] Moore Tornado Aerials- May 21, 2013 To: Taylor Denniston tay...@btls.us

[Talk-us] Oklahoma disaster mapping

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Johnson
OK, I'm trying to get started on disaster mapping in the Moore area following the storm, since we're talking about a 22 mile track that is affecting navigation and basic mobility in a long swath at the primary egress to a major metro, not to mention everyday navigation for people working and doing

Re: [Talk-us] Oklahoma disaster mapping

2013-05-21 Thread Paul Johnson
really want to map the exact current conditions? I am not trying to be difficult, just want to make a positive contribution, and not do something that someone else will have to spend effort to undo. Thanks, Mike On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote

[Talk-us] May 19 Oklahoma disaster mapping

2013-05-20 Thread Paul Johnson
Having a hard time locating any updated imagery, but if anyone wants to get started on mapping Sunday's devastation, here's the kmz. Stay safe, many of today's storms are near or on the same tracks. http://gis.ou.edu/sympa/arc/okgis/2013-05/msg00050.html

[Talk-us] Expand the network=* tag in bicycle relations to more cleanly handle non-UK situations?

2013-05-09 Thread Paul Johnson
I have to wonder if we're not running into UKisms that don't apply to the US at all, similar to what we ran into with road routes. Perhaps another scheme is needed, similar to how road networks work out. I've run into similar issues with local cycleways, where the LCNs really ought to be divided

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

2013-03-28 Thread Paul Johnson
It it's going to reopen, change highway=* to construction=*, then add highway=construction. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: How do you tag roads that are out of service. We have a section of Widbey Island that was wiped out by a landslide. It will

Re: [Talk-us] Examples Gov using OSM

2013-03-26 Thread Paul Johnson
Yes, TriMet did edit bike data in Portland, and you can get bike directions from their trip planner. On Mar 26, 2013 9:37 AM, alyssa wright alyssapwri...@gmail.com wrote: mentioned this to alex earlier, but i believe trimet was also editing bike path data though not sure what came of that. the

Re: [Talk-us] How to tag toll roads

2013-03-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 3/17/13 11:09 PM, Evan Robohm wrote: My question is how literally should we as mappers tag them--like the Wiki page says or as they're advertised on road signs? This also applies to how ramps are tagged--does

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Let's not chide people for keeping this discussion on the list in the open where it belongs. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:12 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Alex, I am in contact with the mappers involved as they have responded to my initial message. This discussion with your

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
that are not in communication. Kerry -Original Message- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:35 AM To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA What I mean to say is these were likely

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
If I can get the route through Oregon, I wouldn't mind finishing out that route. On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:03 AM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Nathan, Thanks for letting me know the source of the OSM/OCM maps. Paul Johnson has contacted me as well. As you may have seen

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, KerryIrons irons54vor...@sbcglobal.netwrote: It's fine to tag a route as proposed but proposed by who? Let's not get hung up in the semantics; it basically means for all practical purposes not live yet. ___ Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
If it's showing up with an under construction or proposed status, it's subject to change and there for approximate visualization in those cases. If you'd like to propose a better way to handle that situation, I'm sure the folks involved would love to hear it! On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:48 PM,

Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA

2013-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:19 PM Cc: OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] US Bicycle Routes in KY, TN, AL, MS, and GA If it's showing up with an under construction or proposed status, it's subject to change

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, February 21, 2013, Greg Troxel wrote: I have lots of traces, have drawn ways from them (in josm), and I haven't uploaded any of them. So not having traces in one's accounts should not lead to the conclusion that GPS was not used. Curious why someone would keep this information

Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps

2013-02-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, February 21, 2013, Mike N wrote: On 2/21/2013 5:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Curious why someone would keep this information to themselves rather than aiding others in improving the map. In my case, it's sheer laziness. I would also prefer to block out sections around my

Re: [Talk-us] parcel boundaries and associated data in OSM

2013-02-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: o You don't have users making changes that nobody visiting the county real property office will fine. Sounds like a good use for a WMS layer with the current official data accessible to editors, and vigilant locals

Re: [Talk-us] parcel boundaries and associated data in OSM

2013-02-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: Brian Personally I think it's brilliant you're working on this, and I'd love OSM to work hand in hand to make it happen. Ideally I'd love OSM to be the repository for this, it helps everybody. I'm with Steve on this.

Re: [Talk-us] parcel boundaries and associated data in OSM

2013-02-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Marginal. While this doesn't *always* mean that something shouldn't be mapped, we're a crowd-sourced map, and including something the crowd can't improve on seems questionable. Or it means someone in the crowd nailed it

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-02-13 Thread Paul Johnson
: On 2/13/2013 6:27 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: Considering that there's nearly 40 in the area within relation 161645 (Oklahoma), I'd honestly be surprised if there aren't at least 50-something just within states starting with O. AFAIK, all of the reservations in Oklahoma were allotted before

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

2013-02-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:18 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: In other words, New York is just as sovereign as is New Zealand, South Dakota is as much a nation-state as South Korea. I am not an attorney, but I can read. This makes for 51 independent jurisdictions: the fifty

Re: [Talk-us] Previous disputes NE2 and Paul Johnson

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: In my opinion, if you get in an argument with Anthony or NE2 and you are right, you are still wrong. They argue for the sport. The entire point of their argument is the conflict, not the potential for resolution. So

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14989711 NE2 has ignored the discussion intentionally and reverted against consensus. You can't

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute FHP

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Johnson
So can we revert NE2's revert from last night? On Feb 11, 2013 10:35 AM, Michael Patrick geodes...@gmail.com wrote: FYI, an official ruling from Mouseland. This email stuff is pretty cool, one can actually directly ask somebody who is a Subject Matter Expert! ;-) Michael --

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Your information on NE2 is grossly inaccurate. NE2 makes very few positive edits, and many, many destructive ones, as well as previous threats to make more edits that conform with his (and only his) vision of the

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: His malice is encapsulated in his inability to work with other people. For example, I dislike a particular global modification to my work that he has made. I know that he has more spare time than me to pursue his ideas,

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
So he's conveniently ignoring the left turn only arrow there preventing a straight-on movement? On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: NE2 asked me to share this diary entry with the list:

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
The question isn't whether or not it's popular. It's popular to drive the wrong way on one-way streets or left of the centerlines in Portland. But that doesn't make it legal. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:21 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: Well, if you do look at the imagery, it

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
are obvious, but which we think are unconventional? Paul Johnson writes: So he's conveniently ignoring the left turn only arrow there preventing a straight-on movement? On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: NE2 asked me to share this diary

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
/Sections/0316.151.html ) On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Looking through the making turns section of the Florida driver's manual, the maneuver NE2 proposes and the argument you're giving to explain it still doesn't work. You turn

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
the turn using the left-most lane? On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: The same one. It also says to look at the diagram for examples, and shows turns into the nearest available lane. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Put the turn restriction back in. And NE2, if you're reading this? Leave it there. Done. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Wait, what? It's clearly part of the same intersection. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Put the turn

[Talk-us] ref tags

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Someone with local knowledge might want to look over the ref=* tags in Florida, a lot seem to be missing the context that let you know what network they're a part of. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-10 Thread Paul Johnson
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14989711 NE2 has ignored the discussion intentionally and reverted against consensus. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Put the turn

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Good point, though was hoping someone in the Orlando area other than NE2 could weigh in (since this is a rare example of me chasing a Mapdust bug out to his area). On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Apollinaris Schöll ascho...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-09 Thread Paul Johnson
if he were gone. I vote, not that anybody called for a vote, to ask him to leave. -russ Paul Johnson writes: A minor update, since NE2 refuses to handle this as a community: Me: I'm no longer accepting input on this outside of the mailing list. If you want to have any further

Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute

2013-02-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Good point, though was hoping someone in the Orlando area other than NE2 could weigh in (since this is a rare example of me chasing a Mapdust bug out to his area). On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Apollinaris Schöll ascho...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Paul Johnson ba

Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups

2013-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
It's nice, though I question it's accuracy: I'm not listed there. At all. Anywhere. And I *should* be in the gold category on that at this point. Weird. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org

Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups

2013-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: It's nice, though I question it's accuracy: I'm not listed there. At all. Anywhere. And I *should* be in the gold category on that at this point. Weird. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us

Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups

2013-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
. Your center is probably some place where you actually don't map... http://www.yosmhm.neis-one.org/?Metanautics%20fixes# Thanks Jason. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I zoomed out and couldn't find myself anywhere on the continent. I have enough

Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups

2013-02-06 Thread Paul Johnson
I would like to organize one in Tulsa. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I heard from a few of you, so thanks a ton! I just realized this will be a lot easier if I give you the local groups I already have on my list. If you organize *or

Re: [Talk-us] Reaching out to Local User Groups

2013-02-06 Thread Paul Johnson
On Feb 6, 2013 10:30 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I would like to organize one in Tulsa. What's stopping you? Pretty sure I would be alone on that given I haven't received responses from any

Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number

2013-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
, hence only focusing on Midway Schools, so I might have missed it; the schools were definitely was unnumbered). On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Alexander Jones happy5...@gmail.comwrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Would it be appropriate to include addr:housename? On Jan 24, 2013 1:52 PM, Jason

Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number

2013-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
the enhanced 911 system did away with this sort of thing. I did a quick google search and I can't find any address for that school though. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: A PO Box doesn't work for navigation purposes, which is what I thought we

[Talk-us] Addresses with no house number

2013-01-24 Thread Paul Johnson
I've run into a situation trying to map a public school. Address as the post office knows it: Midway Public Schools 3rd Street Council Hill, OK 74428 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Anyone ever talked about adding more Land Ownership data to OSM?

2013-01-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday, January 7, 2013, Ian Dees wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Nathan Mixter nmix...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'nmix...@gmail.com'); wrote: It would be awesome to include the land ownership data from BLM especially if we could do it for the whole US. Unfortunately

Re: [Talk-us] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-02 Thread Paul Johnson
To play Psychostik's advocate, translating girl directions. OK, now stay right while you're turning left, because you're going to hang a right after seriously the biggest tree you've ever seen, go five lampposts down, turn left on McCallaugh...or was it McDowell? McSomething. Then you'll keep

Re: [Talk-us] Texas business route letter subscripts, or how I learned to stop arguing and ignore a certain user

2012-12-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday, December 21, 2012, Clay Smalley wrote: In Texas, every business route has a unique letter attached to it. In this image from TxDOT, there are a few examples: http://onlinemanuals.txdot.gov/txdotmanuals/fsh/images/Figure%204-2.gif These are what show on the vast majority of highway

Re: [Talk-us] Texas business route letter subscripts, or how I learned to stop arguing and ignore a certain user

2012-12-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Martijn van Exel wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: [..] Sounds like yet another problem brought to us by the letters N and E, and the number 2... bingo. So it's safe to assume the

[Talk-us] Tribal boundaries

2012-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
How do we handle tribal administrative boundaries? This is kind of a big one for the US, Canada and Australia.. On Dec 17, 2012 2:51 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Serge, ****This is a good idea. ****I have a large file of data from the Acoma tribe, but my

Re: [Talk-us] Tribal boundaries

2012-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
point http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron -- *From:* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'ba...@ursamundi.org'); *To:* OpenStreetMap talk-us list talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Tribal boundaries

2012-12-17 Thread Paul Johnson
Not having the bandwidth to give it a proper examination at the moment, I would expect, based on description, that this would be a map of lands held in trust for various tribes (that which are the subject of the recent Cobell vs United States case) as opposed to national boundaries of tribes as

Re: [Talk-us] Know of a local user group? Update the page!

2012-12-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Google+ communities? On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: Noticing how many of these user groups host sites outside of OSM, is there any update on making the OSM wiki more social / functional for local area community building? (followup to SOTM birds of a feather

Re: [Talk-us] identifying TIGER deserts

2012-12-07 Thread Paul Johnson
Something else that would be cool for the US OSM server is a tilecache proxy of publicly available, kosher data sources On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: Thanks! I agree about a regularly-updated map. For this one, I used the up-to-date osm2pgsql

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, November 29, 2012, Brian May wrote: On 11/29/2012 9:12 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Secondly, about Census data... The Census Bureau publishes ZIP Code Tabulation Areas (ZCTAs, as polygons) but they are an approximation of US Postal Service data and used for downstream analytical

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, November 29, 2012, Brian May wrote: On 11/29/2012 9:12 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Secondly, about Census data... The Census Bureau publishes ZIP Code Tabulation Areas (ZCTAs, as polygons) but they are an approximation of US Postal Service data and used for downstream analytical

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, November 29, 2012, Brian May wrote: On 11/29/2012 9:12 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Secondly, about Census data... The Census Bureau publishes ZIP Code Tabulation Areas (ZCTAs, as polygons) but they are an approximation of US Postal Service data and used for downstream analytical

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, November 29, 2012, Brian May wrote: On 11/29/2012 9:12 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Secondly, about Census data... The Census Bureau publishes ZIP Code Tabulation Areas (ZCTAs, as polygons) but they are an approximation of US Postal Service data and used for downstream analytical

Re: [Talk-us] US Addressing

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday, November 29, 2012, Mike N wrote: On 11/29/2012 10:32 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Is there a compelling reason not to get parcels instead? As parcels change shape, the centroid can be easily interpolated. It's not really possible to extrapolate geometry from centroid, however

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER expansion bot

2012-11-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Toby Murray wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Brian May b...@mapwise.comjavascript:; wrote: On 11/27/2012 7:06 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.comjavascript:; wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:29

Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - Progress/Todo

2012-11-21 Thread Paul Johnson
I don't think the Tulsa one is going to happen, lack of venue. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi Folks, the organisation of Operation Cowboy seems to be nearly finished.

Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - Progress/Todo

2012-11-21 Thread Paul Johnson
together this weekend (it's not really a good weekend for get togethers in the US), I would love to attend a mapping party in OK in the future. So planning a mapping party in the future could also be a good idea. -- Jim On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Paul Johnson ba

Re: [Talk-us] Newly tweaked TIGER road names tiles

2012-11-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Oh, and they're flat out hosed in the Tulsa County area, particularly at the same latitude as Broken Arrow (TIGER carries Broken Arrow-specific street names into Tulsa City improperly). On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.comwrote: Toby, ****We do

Re: [Talk-us] 'creative' mapping

2012-11-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Looks like someone mapped a haymaze. On Nov 13, 2012 9:12 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I got this from a MapRoulette user: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.414586lon=-84.815333zoom=18layers=M Anyone know what this is about? -- Martijn van Exel

Re: [Talk-us] SOTM-US 2013

2012-11-06 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm going to go ahead and get it started by nominating beautiful Tulsa, Oklahoma for SOTM 2013. On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: Hey Kate - Good question. Given the fact that we're shooting for an early SOTM next year, we're really strapped of time for a

Re: [Talk-us] Difficult USA mapper(s)

2012-11-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Moderation is one thing. Important messages can still go through, if someone is moderated. But in this case he apparently was kicked off the list completely. I'm not sure what behavior caused such a severe sanction, but if it

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations

2012-10-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com wrote: You can check the highway designation file for the correct designation of specific routes. If something else is on the sign, the local district probably screwed up (several TxDOT district offices aren't exactly known

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.comwrote: I think there is still some misunderstanding. One of the transforms is: 1704295,road,US:TX:Spur,601,,US:TX,601,Spur,happy5214,5 Spur in Texas is not a modifier; it's a distinct type of route that is numbered

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Oct 22, 2012 9:57 AM, Alexander Jones happy5...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: FM and RM are the same network...seems odd for them to show up twice here... I could've sworn that the general consensus from a previous argument was one network per shield type. They use the same

Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 4:57 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote: Did they switch from one term to the other at some point? If so, the mix of signs on the same route might be because some of the signs have been replaced as they rusted out and/or got used for target practice. Not

[Talk-us] Fwd: Scrubbing route relations

2012-10-18 Thread Paul Johnson
to have some idea how I'm going to handle that problem when I start going over my Route 66 traces). -- Forwarded message -- From: Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com Date: Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Scrubbing route relations To: Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org

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