Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-23 Thread Richard Weait
On Jan 22, 2014 11:10 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The publicity aspect of Meetup really gets people to your events. Though i wonder if these people are the long term contributors to OSM that we

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-23 Thread Serge Wroclawski
I agree with Alex and Paul here. It would be ideal to say Oh we can replicate the functionality of a user calendar- that's absolutely true. The discovery functionality is what's not replicatable. I've had one user here in NYC who does not wish to participate on the meetup because he doesn't want

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-22 Thread Richard Weait
On Jan 22, 2014 12:09 AM, Brian DeRocher br...@derocher.org wrote: ...   The publicity aspect of Meetup really gets people to your events.  Though i wonder if these people are the long term contributors to OSM that we want. You control that in part with the way that you write your event

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The publicity aspect of Meetup really gets people to your events. Though i wonder if these people are the long term contributors to OSM that we want. It is in part a numbers game. Only a small percentage will become

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-22 Thread Martijn van Exel
I dislike relying on volatile third party services as much as the next person, but: * As stated before, it does get you unparalleled exposure outside of the regular channels, targeted at people actively looking to explore new interests / meet new people. Sure, many of these folks may just be

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-22 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Surprising probably no one, I have a lot of thoughts on this topic, so I've been watching this conversation with interest. Not to toot my own horn, but I gave a talk on this very subject at SOTM US 2013, which you can watch here:

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Not to toot my own horn, but I gave a talk on this very subject at SOTM US 2013, which you can watch here: http://vimeopro.com/openstreetmapus/state-of-the-map-us-2013/video/68098498 Among my key points

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us The reply I received back from Laura Blackett, Meetup.com, is show below. They do not offer any corporate sponsored group rates nor can third parties pay for accounts. If OSM-US

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-21 Thread Brian DeRocher
Here's an idea. How about we get back to using Upcoming.org? Oh yeah, it was bought by Yahoo and shutdown. It's for this reason OSM runs their own web servers, wikis, mail servers. I'm generally in support of running our own calendar server. But as Paul said, being a calendar is only half

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Richard Welty
On 1/15/14 6:03 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: What's wrong with using Google+'s events functionality? Almost everyone with an Android and everyone with hosting through Google, is on YouTube or a gmail account has this. there are a lot of people in OSM who are uncomfortable with having their

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Kam, Kristen -(p)
PM To: Clifford Snow Cc: Martijn van Exel; OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups What's wrong with using Google+'s events functionality? Almost everyone with an Android and everyone with hosting through Google, is on YouTube or a gmail account has this. On Jan 14

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Paul Norman
; OpenStreetMap talk-us list Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups Why can't you use Meetup for existing groups and also use Facebook as a mechanism organize members for new groups and associated events? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Alex Barth
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote: However the cost is expensive for individuals to start a Meetup group. I recommend either crowd funding a meetup group or getting a local company to sponsor. Like Ian said, at OSM US we've spent quite some cycles on

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread David Fawcett
Despite the cost overhead of Meetup, it is definitely worth investigating. Our local Python group started using meetup last year and it gave us a huge boost in exposure and has brought in quite a few new people who didn't know that we existed. To me, the exposure to the (literally) thousands of

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Simon Poole
Just a couple of observations from the other side of the Atlantic: - please make it easy to contact your group without having to go through a sign up procedure with yet another service. Not everybody is interested in joining permamently and making a meetup account mandatory just means you wont

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Paul Johnson
Sure! It's commonly used on the Furry Fandom community (particularly on the plains) to coordinate furmeets and share convention experiences. It ties in nicely to Google Calendar as well, and ergo, Android. https://plus.google.com/communities/113331563119234748188/events has examples from that

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Randy Meech
A corporation might offer a grant for that to OSM US if it wanted to manage that (especially if tax deductible), but it would be challenging to offer it to a number of smaller groups. -Randy On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: What's wrong with using Google+'s events functionality? Almost everyone with an Android and everyone with hosting through Google, is on YouTube or a gmail account has this. Paul, I've never even heard of Google+ events

Re: [Talk-us] Local user groups

2014-01-15 Thread Alex Barth
Simon's comment makes me realize that the central argument for meetup.comhasn't been mentioned. meetup.com covers the bases for core organizing (events + mailing lists) but most importantly, it provides incredible visibility. Esp. in the US, people actively browse meetup for stuff they're