Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links (Kevin Kenny)

So many conversations at once; this list-digest medium proves limiting at times, even often. Helpful old-fashioned aids here might be sketch boards where small-group (two, three people?) sub-projects can spin out and a main thread group where someone explains what s/he sees going on and how we

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 3:46 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 14:33 Richard Welty wrote: > >> On 8/24/18 3:15 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: >> > This is a criticism I've had about the Standard renderer for a while >> > now. Andy Allan's rendering refs from relations. Osmand is

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 14:33 Richard Welty wrote: > On 8/24/18 3:15 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > This is a criticism I've had about the Standard renderer for a while > > now. Andy Allan's rendering refs from relations. Osmand is rendering > > refs from relations. Magic Earth is rendering refs

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On Aug 24, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Evin Fairchild wrote: > Hey, I totally agree that we need to fix the rendering so that the renderer > will show ref tags on route relations. But until then, it's impractical to > expect people to avoid putting the ref tags on the ways. Evin, we agree to disagree

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On 8/24/18 3:15 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > This is a criticism I've had about the Standard renderer for a while > now.  Andy Allan's rendering refs from relations.  Osmand is rendering > refs from relations.  Magic Earth is rendering refs from relations.  > Pretty sure Mapbox and Rand McNally are

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 13:41 Evin Fairchild wrote: > Anyway, to get back on topic, I don't agree with tagging the ref tags on > link roads, as long as it's part of the route relation. I have seen > instances, though, where people tag what should be a motorway link as a > motorway when a route

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

This is a criticism I've had about the Standard renderer for a while now. Andy Allan's rendering refs from relations. Osmand is rendering refs from relations. Magic Earth is rendering refs from relations. Pretty sure Mapbox and Rand McNally are as well. On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 12:03 Evin

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

Hey, I totally agree that we need to fix the rendering so that the renderer will show ref tags on route relations. But until then, it's impractical to expect people to avoid putting the ref tags on the ways. I do agree with not tagging for the renderer, but I was merely pointing out that it's

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

Agree with that, Evin. Unfortunately I think there are still quite a few countries where route relations are not as widely used / accepted (I remember the UK bring among them? Perhaps someone can do an overpass query to visualize) so unless we get everyone on board with them we're likely stuck

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

The only way you can get people to stop putting reg tags on ways and only put them on relations is if the renderer actually rendered reg tags from relations. Currently it doesn't do this, so it's impractical for people to do what you're suggesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, don't tag for the

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

The ref=* tag on ways is already 100% redundant if the way is already a part of the appropriate route relations and should be phased out so ref can be used to actually describe the way's ref, where applicable. Also, can we kill this dinosaur entirely already? Route relations have been a widely

[Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

Hey everyone! We're looking for your opinion on the existence of ref tags on links - should it be there? Is it redundant if the link is already in a route relation that has the ref tag? We've created a Github ticket to let us