Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: > I think that is partly due to a failure of tools and expectations. Too > many tools are still geared towards the initial large scale acquisition > of data. There indeed you will likely have a pattern of a few > contributors contributing the b

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On 07/19/2013 09:57 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Clifford Snow > wrote: > >>> Similarly, when the Washington Post covered the local DC hackerspace, >>> we had two people stop in at the space (only two!) and neither of them >>> joined. >> >> I'm not sure that two

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: >> Similarly, when the Washington Post covered the local DC hackerspace, >> we had two people stop in at the space (only two!) and neither of them >> joined. > > I'm not sure that two events are enough data points to state that publicity > doe

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Hello all, While I agree with Clifford that more publicity is essential to grow the organization, another strategy that might be effective is to work through organizations that could have a use for the maps or for mapping as a teaching exercise. We don't have direct access to large au

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

I agree that getting mom & pop websites to use OSM will help a lot in getting people aware of of the project and primed to assist. But that is not possible now. There are two things needed for any mom & pop site to use OSM: 1. Some quick, easy no hassle way to embed a slippery map. 2. Routing av

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

>Maybe we need to ask people, what got them interested in OSM and what keeps them active. Maybe one of the activities we should undertake is to collect that data to help develop plans go active mappers. I'll jump in on this quickly, I first saw OSM as a background in Depiction

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Serge Wroclawski writes: > The real lesson of the ambassador program was that running mapping > parties in other cities than your own results in press (sometimes), > results in various size turnout, but has no track record of creating > sustainable community. Except for MappingDC, for which yo

Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?

It helps that these are actually signposted as black-on-orange "DETOUR" bannered routes. The severely multiplexed and complicated situation this creates causes passengers in my car to giggle when the Garmin announces that you should make a movement following the detour routes, since it'll say thin

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > >> We need publicity! > > > > Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and > should > > try and work on as a group. > > > When I was in DC, t the Washington Post to covered MappingDC. The > Washington Post is not

Re: [Talk-us] Shield rendering and detours; tagging nicknames?

On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:28 PM, James Mast wrote: > > Still, I think detour routes might be a good idea, but only if somebody is > willing to keep track of the projects and fix everything once the > construction is finished. > If the rendering is really really orange and really ugly, it will help

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: > > >> We need publicity! > > > > Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and > should > > try and work on as a group. > > I wish this was the case, but it's

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Richard Weait wrote: >> >> This doesn't have to wait for funding, or permission! There are >> hundreds of OpenStreetMap "ambassadors" reading this list, right now. > > > Are you saying that you are satisf

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Some ideas and thoughts in no particular order: 1) There are a lot of mappers out there who use OSM data without even knowing it: I'm talking about smartphone users with built-in GPS + an app that taps into OSM data (too many to list, yes, and still in the minority, but they are out there).

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: >> We need publicity! > > Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and should > try and work on as a group. I wish this was the case, but it's not. I'll elaborate. > Looking at the data, it is clear that when ever > t

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Hello, Most people would agree that we don't have nearly enough people mapping. Clearly, transcending our early adopter types of GIS and open source software people will be needed. However, effective strategies for on boarding the next million people are going to be very different than what was ne

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

"Clifford, of your 4 ideas only getting coverage in mainstream press would probably be effective." Hey folks, just a quick note to be mindful of the way we're responding to each other's ideas, and to be especially careful since as we all know, tone is easily misread online. (And thanks to Jason

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Clifford Snow wrote: > We need publicity! Harry Wood is trying to recruit more volunteers for the Communication Working Group. You can e-mail him on o...@harrywood.co.uk . cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Steady-increase-in-the-number-of-mappers

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Kai-- those are some really great ideas around publicity! Personally, I think we'd need a dedicated PR person on staff to fully accomplish this. That's not really feasible in the near term, though-- so maybe we should think about ways that we can break that down into volunteer-sized tasks? This se

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Clifford Snow wrote > I'll start by just listing a few of my thoughts: > > We need publicity! Yes! Publicity is in my opinion one of the biggest things we need and should try and work on as a group. Looking at the data, it is clear that when ever there was significant publicity on OSM, the number

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On 07/19/2013 11:06 AM, Kathleen Danielson wrote: > Kai-- those are some really great ideas around publicity! > > Personally, I think we'd need a dedicated PR person on staff to fully > accomplish this. That's not really feasible in the near term, though-- > so maybe we should think about ways tha

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Alex Barth wrote: > The local dimension of OpenStreetMap was exactly why OSM US decided to do > #editathons. There's one happening this weekend, join us. > > http://openstreetmap.us/2013/07/july-summer-editathon/ > Our group is signed up. (Seattle) > > Well I'v

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Am 19.07.2013 12:06, schrieb Kathleen Danielson: > Hi Clifford, > > Wow--thanks for sharing those stats! They are really interesting! > > I just took a look at the link you shared and it looks like we're > seeing the number of mappers contributing on any given day. Do you > know if it's possible

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: [ ... ] > As I envision an OSM Ambassador program, the goals would be similar to > Fedora[1], > > Organize OSM participation at events > Demonstrate OSM to the public > Promote OSM at local events with talks, handouts and swag > Promote Switc

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

+1 to just get going in your city or in your community. Let nothing stop you. The local dimension of OpenStreetMap was exactly why OSM US decided to do #editathons. There's one happening this weekend, join us. http://openstreetmap.us/2013/07/july-summer-editathon/ Well I've been promoting this e

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > This doesn't have to wait for funding, or permission! There are > hundreds of OpenStreetMap "ambassadors" reading this list, right now. > Are you saying that you are satisfied with the number of active US mappers? Really? > > 1) Start you

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Kathleen Danielson < kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote: Anyway, I think that a goal of increasing active mappers is really smart-- perhaps we could set annual or quarterly targets for ourselves? Tracking and publicizing the data monthly should be step 1. Edi

Re: [Talk-us] Steady increase in the number of mappers in the US

Hi Clifford, Wow--thanks for sharing those stats! They are really interesting! I just took a look at the link you shared and it looks like we're seeing the number of mappers contributing on any given day. Do you know if it's possible to find the number of mappers contributing in a week or even mo