Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-06 Thread Metcalf, Calvin (DOT)
pm To: calvin.metc...@dot.state.ma.us Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project Calvin, getting back to your original comment, what exactly do you mean use ZIP codes?  They are currently tagged with the key addr:postcode.  Are you proposing

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Nathan Mills
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:39:24 -0700, Paul Norman wrote: In this case the A was part of the house number and 112A had no connection to 112. What I see around here more often is suite numbers (e.g. 101, 102) that are placed in front of the number when written out, but sometimes are placed

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Peter Dobratz
For secondary house numbers, I use addr:flats as this appears to be at least semi-documented on the wiki. I also use addr:full in this case to write the whole address so it's clear what's going on. We have a number of buildings around here that use Sutie/Apartment/Lot/Unit numbers along with the

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Carl Anderson
For range data there is uncertainty how to increment addresses when an end is such as N82W15855 VALLEY VIEW DR,, MENOMONEE FALLS, WI, 53051-3709, USA 45-558 KAMEHAMEHA HWY STE B3,, KANEOHE, HI, 96744-1944, USA 46-026 A ALALOA ST,, KANEOHE, 96744-3824, USA, HI On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mike

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-10-04 18:38, Ian Dees wrote: When I use addr:street I put the entire street's name in the field. Breaking apart that street name into pieces is the job of other tags, I would imagine. I proposed, and have widely used addr:street_direction_prefix for the cardinal direction of

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Mike N
On 10/5/2011 8:46 AM, Carl Anderson wrote: For range data there is uncertainty how to increment addresses when an end is such as N82W15855 VALLEY VIEW DR,, MENOMONEE FALLS, WI, 53051-3709, USA 45-558 KAMEHAMEHA HWY STE B3,, KANEOHE, HI, 96744-1944, USA 46-026 A ALALOA ST,, KANEOHE, 96744-3824,

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 10/5/2011 7:51 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: ZIP codes, which in America are not copy righted [sic] Are you sure about this? and (at least in MA) widely available. Are these precise or TIGER's horrible approximations? ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Metcalf, Calvin (DOT)
: Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com Sent: 10/5/2011 8:53 pm To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project On 10/5/2011 7:51 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: ZIP codes, which in America are not copy righted [sic] Are you sure about

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 10/5/2011 9:15 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: In MA they are good in they are precise How have you tested this? don't know about the rest of the country but say wht you will about the census they tend to get the areas right in the sense of getting all the houses. In Florida, they omit

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Dale Puch
Are you sure it is omitted, and not just a tiny dataset ( say 30 ) since I think there are only a few Disney executives residences there? On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/5/2011 9:15 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: In MA they are good in they

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Carl Anderson
Although there is only 1 edge on the TIGER 2010 edges dataset having zipl = '32830' or zipr = '32830' (TLID = 94368893) there are 539 faces in the TIGER 2010 faces dataset having ZCTA5CE10 = '32830' or ZCTA5CE00 = '32830' You might consider using the ZCTA5CE00 and ZCTZ5CE10 face data in

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 10/5/2011 10:08 PM, Carl Anderson wrote: Although there is only 1 edge on the TIGER 2010 edges dataset having zipl = '32830' or zipr = '32830' (TLID = 94368893) there are 539 faces in the TIGER 2010 faces dataset having ZCTA5CE10 = '32830' or ZCTA5CE00 = '32830' Are these based on roads or

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Carl Anderson
Census faces are areas. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/5/2011 10:08 PM, Carl Anderson wrote: Although there is only 1 edge on the TIGER 2010 edges dataset having zipl = '32830' or zipr = '32830'  (TLID = 94368893) there are 539 faces in the

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-05 Thread Brad Neuhauser
: Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com Sent: 10/5/2011 9:37 pm To: calvin.metc...@dot.state.ma.us Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project On 10/5/2011 9:15 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: In MA they are good in they are precise How have

[Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, I'd like to announce a broad-based project to improve addresses in OSM. The project page is here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_Improvement The purpose of this project is to improve the tagging and better reflect local addressing practice, particularly in areas where the

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'd like to announce a broad-based project to improve addresses in OSM. The project page is here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address_Improvement Can you summarize the project? All the Wiki page says

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Steven Johnson
Serge, I don't have canned solutions, but I do think there needs to be greater specificity and flexibility in address tagging. The page links to a relatively new national (US) address standard and how we can adopt a lightweight profile of the standard to gain that flexibility and specificity.

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Dees
I'm a bit confused about how Karlsruhe doesn't apply to the US. When I'm adding addressing information I usually use the following two tags: addr:street=* addr:housenumber=* Those seem to cover the vast majority of addressing use cases in the US. What am I missing? On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:17

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Dees
When I use addr:street I put the entire street's name in the field. Breaking apart that street name into pieces is the job of other tags, I would imagine. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: When you use addr:street you normally add the street type (e.g.

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Mike N
On 10/4/2011 9:04 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: The purpose of this project is to improve the tagging and better reflect local addressing practice, particularly in areas where the Karlsruhe schema does not fit local practice. This includes Japan and United States, but likely other regions as well.

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have canned solutions, but I do think there needs to be greater specificity and flexibility in address tagging. If there's something wrong with the way we're handling addresses, let's bring it up on this forum.

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Toby Murray
I would put splitting cardinal directions out into their own tag on the same level as breaking them out on streets. I'm sure some people do it (in fact I seem to recall a discussion about that a few months ago?) but I don't plan on making it a priority for myself any time soon. The one address

Re: [Talk-us] Announcement: Address Improvement project

2011-10-04 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] The one address component that I have seen missing is suite. We have a couple of places where businesses share housenumbers and use suite numbers or letters. I'm sure this is not uncommon. Some places write it as