Thank you all for the helpful discussion. I have now split California in
a northern and southern part along the recommended counties. Let's see
how long it takes until the parts grow too big again!
Bye
Frederik
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For what it's worth, your proposed dividing line sounds as reasonable as
anything else. (Coming from someone who lived in SoCal briefly, over 25
years ago.)
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 4:28 PM OSM Volunteer stevea <
stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote:
> Reminding everybody that whatever Frederik
Reminding everybody that whatever Frederik decides to do about California, it
isn't "authoritative," simply helpful to keep OSM data manageable. Sure,
keeping "a solution" logical, simple, "politically correct" and achieving some
consensus (as we have) are all helpful towards that goal, but
Thanks Drew!
I don't have any legs to stand on anymore so i'm also going to bow out of
the conversation :)
Anything you decide to do is fine with me Frederik.
Sincerely,
Vivek Bansal
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 10:07 AM Drew Dara-Abrams
wrote:
> Hi Vivek, Interline's OSM Extracts service
Hi Vivek, Interline's OSM Extracts service generates extracts for all of
those California metro regions that you list -- all extracts are updated
daily. See https://www.interline.io/osm/extracts/ and
https://github.com/interline-io/osm-extracts/blob/master/cities.json
Hi Frederik, we see the
I told you Californians loved attention!
I picked 6 Californias because I thought it was the nicest way to divide up
the state into equally sized shapes with some reference to political
boundaries. I also "detest" the politics of breaking up California but I
like the geospatial organization.
I
> On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:58 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea
> wrote:
>
> Taken "straight across the state" (west to east), following the political
> boundaries of "the northern edges of three counties" (admin_level=6) to break
> up a state (admin_level=4), it's both easy (technically, simply "10
Simon Poole wrote:
> I think the question is less where N vs S California is but more if
> there is a regional split of California that would make sense from a
> processing pov. Is for example somebody likely to do something with a
> North-CA extract, or if you would want to do something on a
Counties in California are very different in size and population. A few in
the mountains have under 20,000 people and a rather small area. But Los
Angeles county has 10 million people and covers a huge area.
If 2 files become too big in a few years, it would be most useful to break
up the states
Jumping in here slightly unwarranted, but what the heck :-).
I think the question is less where N vs S California is but more if
there is a regional split of California that would make sense from a
processing pov. Is for example somebody likely to do something with a
North-CA extract, or if you
As another Californian (from the SF Bay Area) with some amount of
opinion here, I suppose I'll chime in.
The straight-ish line (northern boundaries of San Luis Obispo, Kern,
and San Bernardino counties) seems largely reasonable to me as a
possible North/South two-way split.
(Other possible
Bradley White wrote:
> I would suggest splitting into North & South along the northern edge
> of the SLO/Kern/San Bernardino county lines as the first step; this
> will at least split the LA and SF Bay areas into separate files, both
> of which I assume account for a significant portion of CA's
Northern and Southern California would work; make the split along the
county boundaries just north of Bakersfield, which conveniently follow one
line of latitude.
It would also be possible to split the State into Northern, Central and
Southern regions, but this would be harder to define.
Joseph
On Nov 6, 2018,at 12:38:05 AM PST, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> ...on the Geofabrik download server, we usually split up countries into
> sub-regions once their single .osm.pbf has gone over a certain size. The
> aim is to make it easy for people to work with data just for their
> region, even on
Luis Villa writes:
>> My guess is the only split that the majority in the state would instantly
>> recognize would be “Northern California” and “Southern California”. However
>> exactly where that split occurs is likely to be contested. :)
>>
>> Were I to hazard a guess, I would start on the
> 3. what would be a sensible way to split California - in 58 counties, or
> maybe just go with SoCal and NorCal for now?
I would suggest splitting into North & South along the northern edge
of the SLO/Kern/San Bernardino county lines as the first step; this
will at least split the LA and SF Bay
Hi OSM US List -
California native and current resident here --
while implementing California urban planning analysis a few years ago,
we used a grouping based on the transportation governance here.
The grouping is shown graphically in a blog post [0]
CA Landuse is governed at the county
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 5:59 AM Tod Fitch wrote:
>
> For background, I a 40 year resident of California and have lived, worked
> and/or performed volunteer work in five of the “six Californias”. At
> present I live in Orange County (part of the Six California’s “South
> California” and perform
> On Nov 6, 2018, at 5:23 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
> Tod,
>
> generally, the Geofabrik OSM PBF extracts are available across the size
> spectrum from continent to smallest extract, so the California OSM PBF
> extract will not go away (sorry if I was unclear about that).
>
> But my
Tod,
generally, the Geofabrik OSM PBF extracts are available across the size
spectrum from continent to smallest extract, so the California OSM PBF
extract will not go away (sorry if I was unclear about that).
But my assumption was that there might be a need for smaller files
because the
I detested the “Six Californias” when it was being proposed as a ballot
measure. Perhaps that is flavoring my response, but at one time or another I’ve
generated topo maps for areas that lie within four of those six divisions so it
would be a bit of a hassle for me to have that.
If a split
Hi,
On 06.11.2018 11:53, Vivek Bansal wrote:
> 2. I would certainly love smaller more regularly updated extracts! I'm
> not sure how much my team would pay for it though.
The downloads are free of charge. Maybe I should check with the
Interline folks, I don't want to step on their toes with
Hi Frederik,
Yes California is too big! We also like the attention!
1. Since the demise of metrozen extracts, I don't know of a good site
outside of Geofabrik to get regulary updated OSM extracts of California.
There is https://www.interline.io/osm/extracts/ but it is a similar
business model
Hi,
on the Geofabrik download server, we usually split up countries into
sub-regions once their single .osm.pbf has gone over a certain size. The
aim is to make it easy for people to work with data just for their
region, even on lower-spec hardware where it might be difficult to
handle huge
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