[Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

OSM's USBRS WikiProject is making nice progress on the latest USBR ballots now before AASHTO awaiting approval: for this round, we now have volunteers in Vermont, Kansas, Indiana and Arizona! However, the project could still use additional volunteers to "step right up!" and offer help

[Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

OSM's USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers to help map new United States Bicycle Routes submitted to AASHTO. Please see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_U.S._Bicycle_Route_System , a reference and

[Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

OSM's USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers (especially those in the eastern USA) to help map pending United States Bicycle Routes. These routes are in the final final stage of being proposed: applications by state DOTs to AASHTO for formal approval as actual routes. AASHTO is expected to

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Aah, sounds like the cycle_network proponents may have gotten overzealous, then; good catch. Could someone check history and contact mappers? On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Andy Allan a...@gravitystorm.co.uk wrote: On 20/07/14 18:29, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:17 AM,

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Likewise, I'm in favor of heirarchies similar to road relations for cyclists (ie, Portland area network=lcn becomes US:OR:Multnomah:Portland or US:OR:Metro or US:OR:Multnomah; Tulsa's LCNs would become US:OK:Tulsa:Riverparks or US:OK:INCOG or US:OK:Tulsa or US:OK:Tulsa:Tusla or US:OK:Tulsa:Broken

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

On 2014-07-19 23:29, Paul Johnson wrote: Likewise, I'm in favor of heirarchies similar to road relations for cyclists (ie, Portland area network=lcn becomes US:OR:Multnomah:Portland or US:OR:Metro or US:OR:Multnomah; Tulsa's LCNs would become US:OK:Tulsa:Riverparks or US:OK:INCOG or US:OK:Tulsa

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us wrote: On 2014-07-19 23:29, Paul Johnson wrote: Likewise, I'm in favor of heirarchies similar to road relations for cyclists (ie, Portland area network=lcn becomes US:OR:Multnomah:Portland or US:OR:Metro or

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

I’ve always thought the “signage” thing was a little absurd anyway — as if the signs are somehow the official documentation and not a reflection of the official documentation. Yet somehow, using the official documentation becomes an import. That makes no sense to me. Darrell Steve wasn't

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

On 2014-05-31 14:06, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Since there is no signage for these routes, this is an import and should be following the import guidelines. In the past, on-road bike routes were typically advertised via maps and annual guidebooks rather than reassurance markers. The U.S. Bike

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

On 6/1/2014 12:32 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: Why would that necessarily be imported? And how do you import a route, anyway? Similarly, there have been projects to add route relations to state and county routes. Depending on the availability of sources from the state, the mapper may end up

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Maybe I should have cross-posted? Please see my recent post to the import-us list at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports-us/2014-June/000583.html Oh, and thank you, Minh. While 'tis true that the USBRS itself (as physical infrastructure) needs a good deal of work, like a few

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

I would love to see these routes in OSM, and I think it's a shame that there is such an ongoing fuss about it. I really do appreciate the on-the-ground verifiability rule, but given that even 'approved' imports like the NYC buildings most likely don't fully adhere to that rule, given that it's

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

My apologies for posting the last message using my openstreetmap.us account. This is my personal view, and has nothing to do with my official capacity as osm.us chapter board member. Martijn On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Martijn van Exel mart...@openstreetmap.us wrote: I would love to see

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Martijn van Exel wrote: I would love to see these routes in OSM, and I think it's a shame that there is such an ongoing fuss about it. May I gently offer some experience from n years of both mapping and developing National Cycle Network routes in the UK. (As well as being an OSMer I'm a

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Thanks for sharing your perspective, Richard. Regarding OSM 'not being too far ahead' of reality - I think we should think of OSM as being part of defining that reality, rather than just following it. Authoritativeness in its traditional sense is an eroding concept, and with the quality of

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

On 2014-06-01 10:46, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Generally in the UK we only map proposed NCN routes when a) we have some personal knowledge of them, and b) the route has a serious likelihood of being signposted in the next couple of years This is pretty much the standard for mapping

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Richard (Fairhurst): Thank you for most informative post, sharing with us in the USA your experiences of national bicycle network planning and especially mapping in OSM. Your gentleness is appreciated -- in fact, it goes a long way! The USA equivalent of the UK's Sustrans (as national

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Steve, On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:34 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: After my talk, Serge and Paul (Norman) had lunch with me, and while they said that they did not represent the DWG, in fact they actually did. Serge characterized this as If a cop pulls you over and says 'I'm going

[Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

OSM's USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers to help map new APPROVED United States Bicycle Routes. Please see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_U.S._Bicycle_Route_Systemhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_U.S._Bicycle_Route_System , a reference and status report for

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Since there is no signage for these routes, this is an import and should be following the import guidelines. - Serge On May 31, 2014 3:19 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: OSM's USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers to help map new APPROVED United States Bicycle Routes. Please

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Since there is no signage for these routes, this is an import and should be following the import guidelines. How is this any different than adding bus routes? Are we considering those imports now, too?

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Ian, OpenTripPlanner can handle routing, which is a pretty core part of handling bus data. OpenTripPlanner can also be fed directly from the GTFS data from the transit authority, which simplifies updates, etc., making a really ideal choice for applications where you want to work with local

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Hi, On 05/31/2014 11:24 PM, Ian Dees wrote: How is this any different than adding bus routes? Are we considering those imports now, too? The difference between an import and normal manual mapping is usually not *what* gets into OSM but *how*. If someone deducts bus routes because they travel

[Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Sigh. Frederick: I very much appreciate the time the DWG took to offer me friendly advice. My understanding was that advice was about putting PROPOSED routes (USBRs) into OSM, and I was VERY careful to NOT do that with my recent request. These are ACTUAL routes which are approved by

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

On 5/31/2014 6:43 PM, stevea wrote: It really does seem as important as Interstate highways, but for bicyclists. For my input: I agree - in the US, having a reliable source of bike routes is as important as Interstate highways. If anything, OSM suffers from too few data consumers and a

Re: [Talk-us] USBRS WikiProject seeks volunteer mappers

Serge Wroclawski writes: Since there is no signage for these routes, this is an import and should be following the import guidelines. Huh? I'm assuming that there is a list of roads and intersections which comprise the bicycle route. Why would that necessarily be imported? And how do you