[Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

Hey everyone! We're looking for your opinion on the existence of ref tags on links - should it be there? Is it redundant if the link is already in a route relation that has the ref tag? We've created a Github ticket to let us

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

The ref=* tag on ways is already 100% redundant if the way is already a part of the appropriate route relations and should be phased out so ref can be used to actually describe the way's ref, where applicable. Also, can we kill this dinosaur entirely already? Route relations have been a widely

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On Aug 24, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Evin Fairchild wrote: > Hey, I totally agree that we need to fix the rendering so that the renderer > will show ref tags on route relations. But until then, it's impractical to > expect people to avoid putting the ref tags on the ways. Evin, we agree to disagree

Re: [Talk-us] Shaped highway shields - trying to revive

Really glad to see that someone is reviving this and actually taking the step to get it rendered. Frankly, I never understood why Phil didn't do this in the first place. I even mentioned this to him at the time (can't remember his response though). -Evin (compdude) On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 2:21 PM

Re: [Talk-us] Shaped highway shields - trying to revive

Agreed. I think it's really nice to have active thinking and work around this. The key is to get the rendering stack people involved. Perhaps Paul Norman can function as a liaison? Martijn Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2018, at 12:06, Evin Fairchild wrote: > > Really glad to see that

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

This is a criticism I've had about the Standard renderer for a while now. Andy Allan's rendering refs from relations. Osmand is rendering refs from relations. Magic Earth is rendering refs from relations. Pretty sure Mapbox and Rand McNally are as well. On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 12:03 Evin

Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 129, Issue 27

> Evin Fairchild wrote > The only way you can get people to stop putting reg tags on ways and only put > them on relations is if the renderer actually rendered reg tags from > relations. Currently it doesn't do this, so All good and correct so far... > it's impractical for people to do what

Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 129, Issue 27

Use procmail to split digests into their original individual messages before replying, please. On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 12:57 OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > > it's impractical for people to do what you're suggesting. > > By "you" Evin means Paul Johnson and by "do what you're suggesting" — >

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 14:33 Richard Welty wrote: > On 8/24/18 3:15 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > This is a criticism I've had about the Standard renderer for a while > > now. Andy Allan's rendering refs from relations. Osmand is rendering > > refs from relations. Magic Earth is rendering refs

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

Hey, I totally agree that we need to fix the rendering so that the renderer will show ref tags on route relations. But until then, it's impractical to expect people to avoid putting the ref tags on the ways. I do agree with not tagging for the renderer, but I was merely pointing out that it's

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 13:41 Evin Fairchild wrote: > Anyway, to get back on topic, I don't agree with tagging the ref tags on > link roads, as long as it's part of the route relation. I have seen > instances, though, where people tag what should be a motorway link as a > motorway when a route

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On 8/24/18 3:15 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > This is a criticism I've had about the Standard renderer for a while > now.  Andy Allan's rendering refs from relations.  Osmand is rendering > refs from relations.  Magic Earth is rendering refs from relations.  > Pretty sure Mapbox and Rand McNally are

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

Agree with that, Evin. Unfortunately I think there are still quite a few countries where route relations are not as widely used / accepted (I remember the UK bring among them? Perhaps someone can do an overpass query to visualize) so unless we get everyone on board with them we're likely stuck

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

The only way you can get people to stop putting reg tags on ways and only put them on relations is if the renderer actually rendered reg tags from relations. Currently it doesn't do this, so it's impractical for people to do what you're suggesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, don't tag for the

Re: [Talk-us] Shaped highway shields - trying to revive

I'm trying to get them involved, but tile-serving rejects my mails. There's someone on the server admin team looking into it, but no luck yet. There may have been further progress today, but I've been out hiking and only just got back to my email. I'm not yet to the bottom of my inbox. On Fri,

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 3:46 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 14:33 Richard Welty wrote: > >> On 8/24/18 3:15 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: >> > This is a criticism I've had about the Standard renderer for a while >> > now. Andy Allan's rendering refs from relations. Osmand is

Re: [Talk-us] ref=* tags on links (Kevin Kenny)

So many conversations at once; this list-digest medium proves limiting at times, even often. Helpful old-fashioned aids here might be sketch boards where small-group (two, three people?) sub-projects can spin out and a main thread group where someone explains what s/he sees going on and how we