Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:28 PM OSM Volunteer stevea < stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: > In Santa Cruz, there is about 50 meters of highway=trunk between Highway > 17 (freeway, motorway) and where 17 ends at signalized Ocean Street > (highway=primary). At first I was nonplussed about this

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Eric Ladner wrote > That may be more of a note to motorists that "hey.. this freeway is coming to > an end" rather than an absolute marker of "this freeway ends here at this > sign". San Diego's own GIS system has it marked as I-8 all the way up to > where it splits into motorway links at

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Eric Ladner
That may be more of a note to motorists that "hey.. this freeway is coming to an end" rather than an absolute marker of "this freeway ends here at this sign". San Diego's own GIS system has it marked as I-8 all the way up to where it splits into motorway links at Nimitz/Sunset Cliffs. Arguing

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 00:17 Albert Pundt or if the road becomes single-carriageway and isn't a super-2 (a > controlled-access freeway in which only one carriageway is constructed with > accommodation for the second later). > A controlled access single carriageway would also be a trunk, not a

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Even at the end, that's still an intersection, though. In the real world, there's a transition to be mafe from freeway to that less than freeway situation at the traffic light. On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 23:02 Evin Fairchild What?! I haven't contradicted myself at all. I already said in my initial >

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Albert Pundt
I always tag based on the actual access control. At the end of a clear freeway, continue the motorway tagging to the first intersection or driveway, or if the road becomes single-carriageway and isn't a super-2 (a controlled-access freeway in which only one carriageway is constructed with

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Nathan Mills
I think this is a good general rule. In the instant case, the tagging should change at the point where the grass median ends northbound, IMO. That marks a definite change in the physical character of the road. I believe it was tagged like that when the carriageways were first split after the

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Evin Fairchild
What?! I haven't contradicted myself at all. I already said in my initial response (the one that I sent to only you by mistake) that in cases where there's an at grade intersection sandwiched in between two interchanges, the road should be marked as trunk in between. Other than that case, a road

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 10:02 PM Evin Fairchild wrote: > Nobody is saying that we should tag as motorways a road with a surface > intersection. I don't understand what it is that we're saying that's > causing you to come to that conclusion. We are simply saying that the > first surface

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Mike N
On 11/28/2018 10:36 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: Adding the intersection did not change the character of the road south of the Gilcrease extension or the rights of adjacent landowners, so I don't see any particular reason to reclassify that segment. If we're looking for a generalized rule,

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
In California some roads have signs that say “End Freeway”, about 1/2 mile before the first intersection, eg I-8 in San Diego. On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:04 PM Evin Fairchild wrote: > Nobody is saying that we should tag as motorways a road with a surface > intersection. I don't understand what it

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Evin Fairchild
Nobody is saying that we should tag as motorways a road with a surface intersection. I don't understand what it is that we're saying that's causing you to come to that conclusion. We are simply saying that the first surface intersection that a road comes across is where the motorway should change

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 9:36 PM Nathan Mills wrote: > Unless there have been significant changes since I moved away, it should > be tagged motorway between the IDL and the light at Apache/Gilcrease > Extension. Before the Gilcrease was extended west of US-75, the Tisdale > should have been

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Nathan Mills
Unless there have been significant changes since I moved away, it should be tagged motorway between the IDL and the light at Apache/Gilcrease Extension. Before the Gilcrease was extended west of US-75, the Tisdale should have been tagged entirely as motorway. Adding the intersection did not

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 9:00 PM Evin Fairchild wrote: > I think you're misrepresenting the discussion. People are simply saying > that the motorway destination should extend all the way to the first at > grade intersection, rather than the interchange prior to the at grade > intersection.

[Talk-us] Fwd: Trunk versus motorway

2018-11-28 Thread Evin Fairchild
-- Forwarded message - From: Evin Fairchild Date: Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Trunk versus motorway To: Paul Johnson I think you're misrepresenting the discussion. People are simply saying that the motorway destination should extend all the way to the