Re: [Talk-us] User in Florida changing several motorways to trunk
On 1/8/2020 9:20 AM, James Mast wrote: Honest mistakes on his end? Perhaps.� But I'm just seeing way too many downgrades to be conformable with his 'highway type' changes to be honest.� There's probably quite a few roads that he retagged as primary that need to be re-upgraded to trunk and so on. Routing algorithms have probably been seriously damaged by some of the changes unfortunately. This is the first case I remember where the trend was to downgrade everything in sight, and he hasn't given the usual alternative point of reference to clarify where he was coming from. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User in Florida changing several motorways to trunk
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:22 AM James Mast wrote: > As for restoring the 'motorway' roads, I've honestly just been manually > fixing them. Sure, takes longer, but allows me to catch the 'Emergency > U-Turn' crossovers that are improperly tagged as a '_link', and fix them at > the same time. I've cleared & restored the proper motorway/motorway_link > tags on FL-414, FL-429, FL-451, & FL-453 manually so far. Leaves FL-408, > FL-417, FL-528, and a few non-state roads around Walt Disney World. But > those routes are some pretty long ones, and will take some time to fix > since they have several exits along them. > Not a bad time to doublecheck lane tagging and capture that detail, too. I'm working through that on I 405 in LA right now, which somehow still had mostly barely-improved-since-TIGER data. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User in Florida changing several motorways to trunk
Well, I have noticed he has downgrade a ton of roads that were 'trunk' for 6+ years, which leads me to be believe they were tagged correctly if no other local mapper touched them in that time period. There were also a few ways in that changeset you mentioned that he changed to secondary that at a previous time was trunk (till he changed it to primary late last year). See: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/216669397/ Honest mistakes on his end? Perhaps. But I'm just seeing way too many downgrades to be conformable with his 'highway type' changes to be honest. There's probably quite a few roads that he retagged as primary that need to be re-upgraded to trunk and so on. Routing algorithms have probably been seriously damaged by some of the changes unfortunately. As for restoring the 'motorway' roads, I've honestly just been manually fixing them. Sure, takes longer, but allows me to catch the 'Emergency U-Turn' crossovers that are improperly tagged as a '_link', and fix them at the same time. I've cleared & restored the proper motorway/motorway_link tags on FL-414, FL-429, FL-451, & FL-453 manually so far. Leaves FL-408, FL-417, FL-528, and a few non-state roads around Walt Disney World. But those routes are some pretty long ones, and will take some time to fix since they have several exits along them. From: Levente Juhász Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:56 AM To: talk-us Cc: James Mast Subject: Re: [Talk-us] User in Florida changing several motorways to trunk FYI the user also joined the changeset discussion as of recently. Based on the message and previous changeset comments (e.g. "trunk-primary fixes (that i messed up)" in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79132672#map=12/28.4681/-81.4027) it seems to be an honest mistake. I can help out with fixes over the weekend. Let me know if you come up with a plan to restore highway=motorway tags. Levente On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:39 PM James Mast mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com>> wrote: I was just alerted to this by a friend, and thought I'd post about it here as well, since I don't really have the time to work on doing all the reverting that unfortunately needs to be done here (there's a lot). But over the last 2 weeks, there's been a user changing several 100% motorways (& are toll highways to boot) that just happen to be state highways in Florida from motorway to trunk. This is mostly as far as I can tell in the Orlando area, but might affect other areas in FL too. I did leave the user a message on Changeset 79155661 ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79155661 ). Hoping he will see it, but with all the major highways that have been seriously demoted in priority that could seriously affect routing very badly, I honestly couldn't wait for a response before I posted a message to here as well. Anybody willing to help out here in restoring the motorway tags to the proper highways? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User in Florida changing several motorways to trunk
FYI the user also joined the changeset discussion as of recently. Based on the message and previous changeset comments (e.g. "trunk-primary fixes (that i messed up)" in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79132672#map=12/28.4681/-81.4027) it seems to be an honest mistake. I can help out with fixes over the weekend. Let me know if you come up with a plan to restore highway=motorway tags. Levente On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:39 PM James Mast wrote: > I was just alerted to this by a friend, and thought I'd post about it here > as well, since I don't really have the time to work on doing all the > reverting that unfortunately needs to be done here (there's a lot). > > But over the last 2 weeks, there's been a user changing several 100% > motorways (& are toll highways to boot) that just happen to be state > highways in Florida from motorway to trunk. This is mostly as far as I can > tell in the Orlando area, but might affect other areas in FL too. > > I did leave the user a message on Changeset 79155661 ( > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79155661 ). Hoping he will see > it, but with all the major highways that have been seriously demoted in > priority that could seriously affect routing very badly, I honestly > couldn't wait for a response before I posted a message to here as well. > > Anybody willing to help out here in restoring the motorway tags to the > proper highways? > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] User in Florida changing several motorways to trunk
I was just alerted to this by a friend, and thought I'd post about it here as well, since I don't really have the time to work on doing all the reverting that unfortunately needs to be done here (there's a lot). But over the last 2 weeks, there's been a user changing several 100% motorways (& are toll highways to boot) that just happen to be state highways in Florida from motorway to trunk. This is mostly as far as I can tell in the Orlando area, but might affect other areas in FL too. I did leave the user a message on Changeset 79155661 ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/79155661 ). Hoping he will see it, but with all the major highways that have been seriously demoted in priority that could seriously affect routing very badly, I honestly couldn't wait for a response before I posted a message to here as well. Anybody willing to help out here in restoring the motorway tags to the proper highways? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
