How would you classify two ruts, with some fist-sized rocks dumped into the
worst-eroded points, leading to the base of a billboard next to a highway?
Technically it is a service road, used when the billboard is maintained, but I
tagged it as a track due to its condition. Only a
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:
For tracks, tracktype indicates condition, and tracktype1 should be
drivable by any family sedan as it may even be paved.
This.
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Just trying to process this: wouldn't a tracktype 1 be tagged as
unclassified or residential anyway? Or to ask a different way, assuming
that roads with houses should be tagged as residential, when should one tag
a sub-tertiary road as track vs. using unclassified?
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:21
2014-07-03 17:36 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com:
Just trying to process this: wouldn't a tracktype 1 be tagged as
unclassified or residential anyway? Or to ask a different way, assuming
that roads with houses should be tagged as residential, when should one tag
a
Highway=service implies a private road, though; if a public road dead-ends
at a single building or facility, it should be =residential or
=unclassified, right?
The tracktype= key is also not really applicable to many of the
unmaintained roads around here, at least as described on the wiki. The
I think highway=service could be public or private, just a matter of if it
is used to access a certain building / facility like Martin said. Some
public examples could be road to a public parking lot, driveway in/out of
fire station, road leading to a public works facility.
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014
2014-07-03 18:26 GMT+02:00 Kevin Broderick k...@kevinbroderick.com:
Highway=service implies a private road, though;
AFAIK only some service like service=driveway are generally private=yes,
while parking _aisle, alley or generic service might be public roads.
cheers,
Martin
Not necessarily. The case I tend to run into, these are extremely rural
roads suitable only as a last resort (or for recreational rat runs across
The Big Empty) and tend to be prone to irregular maintenance, unevenly
graded, do not have snow removal, may have fords, variable in width and
tend to
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Broderick k...@kevinbroderick.com
wrote:
Highway=service implies a private road, though;
Not always, service=alley can be public, can't they?
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On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Jason Remillard
remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Playing around with scout, I have discovered that it will not route
over tracks, cycleways, and paths unless you are in pedestrian mode.
It ignores access=destination, and the surface tag.
Scout does not route
On 7/3/14 2:32 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Broderick k...@kevinbroderick.com
wrote:
Highway=service implies a private road, though;
Not always, service=alley can be public, can't they?
i'd say that most alleys i see are public. for obvious reasons they
Hi Martijn,
I think it would be fine to put a scout section into the routing tag page.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing
It should not be much text to describe what tags are used.
Also, following the rest of this thread, the track/surface/etc tagging
situation is very
Thanks for the input, Jason and others. I will work on this and should
have something up next week.
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Jason Remillard
remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Martijn,
I think it would be fine to put a scout section into the routing tag page.
Il giorno 02/lug/2014, alle ore 01:36, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org ha
scritto:
Added a comment to the discussion section of that page as well:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:OSM_tags_for_routing#Authority.3F
I agree, maybe the best would be to delete this page? It contains
I would expect tracks to be in play except when explicitly excluding
unpaved roads, barring surface tags to the contrary, otherwise as a last
resort. Much of the US doesn't pave county roads, yet they're often packed
and graded to the point someone with a low slung sedan can safely do 45 on
them.
IMO (based on both the wiki and what I've seen on the map), highway=track
implies something that is not reasonably drivable by normal passenger cars
at a normal rate of travel. In Vermont, we have a whole lot of unpaved
roads that are perfectly fine at 35-45 MPH (well, except for mud season);
2014-07-02 16:07 GMT+02:00 Kevin Broderick k...@kevinbroderick.com:
IMO (based on both the wiki and what I've seen on the map), highway=track
implies something that is not reasonably drivable by normal passenger cars
at a normal rate of travel.
Actually this will depend on the setting, in
Stava is also routing with OSM. I CC'd Paul Mach who spoke about their cool
Slide tool for mapping paths at SOTMUS 14. I'm wondering if the strava
routing considers said tags.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
Would it be possible for
Il giorno 01/lug/2014, alle ore 20:15, Jason Remillard
remillard.ja...@gmail.com ha scritto:
Similarly to how default tile server shapes tagging, scout, skobbler ,
osmand, etc, and the other widely used OSM routing applications will
inevitably shape tagging. It would be useful to
Hi Martin,
Some of the highway tag values are not clear. For example, scout does
not route over highway=tracks, unless you are in pedestrian mode. It
seems like a reasonable decision, perhaps all of the routers do this,
but the wiki documentation says nothing of the sort, and it surprised
me. If
Il giorno 01/lug/2014, alle ore 23:15, Jason Remillard
remillard.ja...@gmail.com ha scritto:
For example, scout does
not route over highway=tracks, unless you are in pedestrian mode. It
seems like a reasonable decision, perhaps all of the routers do this,
no, some routers do use tracks
Hi Jason,
I hadn't seen that page for a while, thank you for reminding me. I
don't really trust that page to be reliable, because it does not
contain any concrete references to applications / services actually
adhering to these conventions.
With that said I agree fully that having a resource
I don't know how this keeps happening, but I responded with my osm.us
account again. I sincerely apologize. Of course, I am not speaking as
the board president on matters like these.
Martijn
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Martijn van Exel
mart...@openstreetmap.us wrote:
Hi Jason,
I hadn't
Added a comment to the discussion section of that page as well:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:OSM_tags_for_routing#Authority.3F
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
I don't know how this keeps happening, but I responded with my osm.us
account again.
On 7/1/2014 7:18 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
With that said I agree fully that having a resource that*is*
trustworthy (containing references to which router supports certain
conventions) is becoming increasingly important
I would also find this very helpful - not to tag for a particular
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