How would you classify two ruts, with some fist-sized rocks dumped into the worst-eroded points, leading to the base of a billboard next to a highway? Technically it is a service road, used when the billboard is maintained, but I tagged it as a track due to its condition. Only a high-ground-clearance, four-wheel drive vehicle would be able to use it. This is on public land, undeveloped except for a paved footpath on part of it, due to frequent flooding.
On July 3, 2014 11:37:30 AM CDT, Brad Neuhauser <brad.neuhau...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think highway=service could be public or private, just a matter of > if it > is "used to access a certain building / facility" like Martin said. > Some > public examples could be road to a public parking lot, driveway in/out > of > fire station, road leading to a public works facility. > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Kevin Broderick > <k...@kevinbroderick.com> > wrote: > > > Highway=service implies a private road, though; if a public road > dead-ends > > at a single building or facility, it should be =residential or > > =unclassified, right? > > > > The tracktype= key is also not really applicable to many of the > > unmaintained roads around here, at least as described on the wiki. > The > > description implies that a track is a continuum from a maintained > roadway > > to a virtually invisible path across a field. The unmaintained roads > in > > this part of the country are usually old roadways that were > established > > before modern engineering standards; many of them go up and down the > fall > > line and have waterbars, washouts, rock ledges, or all of the above. > For > > example: > > > > > > > https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/1267970_716253801218_1989759584_o.jpg > > > > > https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/1266483_716253736348_406630391_o.jpg > > > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/1264969_716254075668_897288595_o.jpg > > > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10317804_767096626788_7562385056086790114_o.jpg > > > > All of these photos are unmaintained roads in Vermont. The last one > is > > probably reasonable for a high-clearance, AWD car (e.g. Subaru) in > the > > hands of a competent driver, and definitely should be passable by a > skilled > > driver in a 4x4 pickup or Jeep. The other three would probably > require a > > modified 4x4 and the right skillset. They are also legal > right-of-ways, so > > clearly access=yes for all vehicle types (even though I wouldn't > want to > > get routed down one of those unknowingly). > > > > I've been using the smoothness key to provide additional data on > such > > tracks, which I realize is a universally agreed solution, but it's > the best > > one I've found to date; I'd be open to further suggestions. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < > > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> 2014-07-03 17:36 GMT+02:00 Brad Neuhauser > <brad.neuhau...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> Just trying to process this: wouldn't a tracktype 1 be tagged as > >>> unclassified or residential anyway? Or to ask a different way, > assuming > >>> that roads with houses should be tagged as residential, when > should one tag > >>> a sub-tertiary road as track vs. using unclassified? > >>> > >> > >> > >> You'd always tag it as unclassified, unless it is not a connection > road > >> and is used only for agricultural / forestry purposes. If it is not > a > >> connection road but used to access a certain building / facility, > use > >> service. > >> > >> E.g. this is clearly a track: http://binged.it/1odgrTZ > >> or this: http://binged.it/1j0zEud > >> > >> in case of doubt I'd put unclassified ;-) > >> > >> cheers, > >> Martin > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Talk-us mailing list > >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Kevin Broderick > > k...@kevinbroderick.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
