RE: Considering VoiceOver

2018-08-24 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
Hi, I tell you what, VoiceOver is like Narrator as compared with Window-Eyes and JAWS. It is not very configurable, unless you know Apple scripting. I'd say it's nowhere near as mature as JAWS or Window-Eyes was. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of CJ MAY

RE: ChromeBook Accessibility

2018-08-24 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi George, I can't speak to ChromeOS, but, getting back to the matter of Macs, I'm not sure what you mean by websites that use calendars. As for keeping track of personal calendar events and reminders, I find my iPhone a breeze with Siri, such that I don't have to use anything else but my

RE: ChromeBook Accessibility

2018-08-24 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
Hi, Chromebooks are very accessible. Just search for Chromevox on Youtube and you'll see. I love my Chromebook. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: 24 August 2018 09:17 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE:

RE: Considering VoiceOver

2018-08-24 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
That doesn't make the whole screen reader as good as Window-Eyes, it just means you can successfully browse the web. Now try to create a Powerpoint presentation, or edit a spreadsheet. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of George Savory via Talk Sent: 24 August

Re: ChromeBook Accessibility

2018-08-24 Thread George Savory via Talk
Hi Rod, I agree with you. I am very comfortable using VoiceOver on my iPhone. The support is robust just as on Windows. Using Jaws or Win-Eyes on travel websites, you must select the month and day of travel. This process was easy using VoiceOver on my iPhone. It was frustrating with Jaws or

Re: Considering VoiceOver

2018-08-24 Thread George Savory via Talk
Hi Steve, You have a point, for those tasks of editing a spread sheet or a PowerPoint presentation I would still have to work with Windows. I still love the support of Win-Eyes on spread sheets. On 8/24/18, Steve Nutt via Talk wrote: > That doesn't make the whole screen reader as good as

Re: Considering VoiceOver

2018-08-24 Thread George Savory via Talk
My experience with VoiceOver on the iPhone is just as good as with Win-Eyes. I am able to switch from one App to another. I am able to use all the navigation aids on a web page such as headings, lists, radio buttons. I am able to navigate in a web page or a text document by character, word or by

RE: Considering VoiceOver

2018-08-24 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Jaws is a very good screen reader. People need to give it time. You didn't learn WindowEyes over night and you won't learn Jaws over night either. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of CJ MAY via Talk Sent: Friday,

Re: Considering VoiceOver

2018-08-24 Thread geodom--- via Talk
I'm still using window eyes, because I tried the jaws that they gave us, and it was not satisfactory. I also downloaded the small tutorial that they gave, but my download of jaws went back to the default settings after I hadn't used it in a while, and when I tried to reset it, it wouldn't let

RE: Considering VoiceOver

2018-08-24 Thread Amanda Lee via Talk
I agree with Steve. I have an IPhone 8 which I use for a number of reasons. I use it with gestures and with a Bluetooth keyboard. If I had to rely only upon an IPhone for all of my information needs, I would consider myself as being rather unproductive as every bit of access is considerably less